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Re: Member in membership not recognized by Groups.io

 

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:49 PM, dan mulholland wrote:
I always omit the dot between first and last name ¡ª and, until now, with no problem.?
Seem that .io needs the dot.
That catches people now and then.? To GIO, joe.smith and joesmith are 2 different people.? Better to be safe than sorry I guess.

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Re: Member in membership not recognized by Groups.io

John Pearce
 

Dan,

If he is moderated for some reason, check your New User Moderated under Spam Control in your group settings.

Spam Control

Restricted Membership

Members require approval before being allowed to join the group.

Announcement Group

Only moderators are allowed to post.

Moderated

All messages require approval before being sent to the group.

New Users Moderated

Messages from new subscribers require approval.

Unmoderate After


Re: Custom Invite Question

Cindy in DE
 

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I'm sorry if I implied that I was asking for a change in the IO program or platform the way it is working at this point in time. I was merely asking if there was a way that we could change this link in an existing setting somewhere.? This is where everyone is asking help questions including me and I have been pointed to where to go to do things I've asked about before so I thought there may be an existing way i could do this now.? I can put in a change request but this is basically a 1 time thing for us at this point to get people (10,000) over from YG in 1 invite notice to everyone at one time.? And we need to do it now.? So I'm truely sorry for ruffling feathers with my question.

But adding to the discussion since it's out there, Id like to explain more about why we would want this.

?I'd in addition not like them to automatically show up as a member because of one of their default settings.? We use default settings like everyone else.? One we use is set to individual emails.? The majority of our members use this but others get upset about this filling up their inbox and either dont know how to change it and arent computer literate enough to even follow directions (giving them directions through direct email however long it takes so they know they can change other things), I know we can change it for them upon request.? But some dont know it can be changed to digest, summary or special notices? and other things like signature and username (we dont allow no email because we want them to get admin messages)? so some people get mad, putting it politely, or are just confused and just unsubscribe because of it.? If they arent automatically put in as a member they can see these choices and pick what they want to begin with.? We dont want people getting mad and just unsubscribing.? Without the automatic add then they can change our defaults where allowed.

We are a local freecycle group which people give away free things to other people in the community (we are not part of the freecycle.org organization).? A lot of our members are seniors clearing out usable things in their homes keeping things our of the landfill.? ( one of our goals) Those seniors are not computer literate so stepping them through the "application" process is helpful for them to understand a little.? All they basically know after that is offering and replying via email and all of that works perfectly well.? A little knowledge ahead of time and changing defaults if desired is given here helping out our many seniors.

The other is the signature part because everything is FREE and people arent allowed solicit their business in their signature.? Those younger members who are still working and may have their own businesses. They tend to put in their business information in the signature even though the are giving away free items.? So we want to head that off from the beginning.

And the display name is from an issue in YG that we just want filled out now here on IO.? It'spreference group preferance.

I just wanted to add my 2 cents in because people are now discussing reasons back and forth.

And now I know my answer is no.? So thank you I appreciate your response.

?o? Cindy ?o?



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From: Duane <txpigeon@...>
Date: 1/5/20 7:09 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [GMF] Custom Invite Question

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:45 AM, Cindy in DE wrote:
If they click on the link "accept the invitation" they automatically become a member of our group, no approval needed, boom they are in.
First of all, no one from GIO management is on this group.? If you want to make suggestions for changes or improvements, you need to post on the .

An invitation assumes that you've already checked people out and want them on your group, so acceptance allows them in.? If you need to do more pre-checking, you'll need to do it before sending an invitation.? You could send an email (from a personal/club/business address) with a link to join the group, then use the to ask specific questions when they apply.

To "fix" the From problem, you can temporarily change your Display Name to something like Owner, send the invitations, then change it back.? I know of several people that have done this.? It's inconvenient, but shouldn't be needed too often.

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Re: AOL members / issues

 

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 07:34 PM, Larry Parsons wrote:

I have one AOL account not responding that has the dirdel response.
"dirdel" means "direct delivery" - it's how yahoo (which handles AOL mail now too) says that it accepted the email.


Re: Interpreting email delivery response

 

On 2020-01-05 at 9:49 AM, Larry Parsons <parsonsusa@...> wrote:
I have 4 members that haven't responded to our groups email since we
migrated from Yahoo at the beginning of Dec. 2019 that had the gsmtp
code. I assumed from the research above they were receiving the email
but it was going into their spam. Then I checked my own email to see
what the normal code looked like and it had the gsmtp code at the end
and I received the email ok.
gsmtp is the technical name of part of Google's email service. All "gsmtp" alone tells you is that the email is hosted by Google, even if it doesn't end with @gmail.com.

You'll need to look at the rest of the details to see whether the message was accepted or not and continue diagnosing from there (e.g. misplaced, ended up in spam, deleted, not interested and ignoring).

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Re: Interpreting email delivery response

 

Larry,

On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Larry Parsons <parsonsusa@...> wrote:

I have 4 members that haven't responded to our groups email since we migrated from Yahoo at the beginning of Dec. 2019 that had the gsmtp code. I assumed from the research above they were receiving the email but it was going into their spam.
Email 'going into their spam' is received, however the 'receiver' isn't actually finding it.

Everyone should think of Email as a package delivery. Usually, as expected, it goes to their front door (Inbox), however sometimes their 'mailman' leaves it at their side door (SPAM or Junk folder) or their rear door (Trash folder). If they don't check all of their doors, the package may or may not be taken by someone else, e.g. their email provider/client's default practice of automatically emptying their SPAM, Junk, and/or Trash folders.

If it is never received, then the questions are:
-was it misdirected (to the wrong address)
-was it refused (by their email provider/client)
-was it returned (marked SPAM and reported to the sending service, sometimes by email provider/client without showing it to the customer)
-did the email provider/client or delivery vehicle or service break down and/or lose it
These are usually 'bounces'.


Best email practices are:
-users should check their SPAM, Junk, and Trash folders every time they check their Inbox - at least once a day.
-never mark a Groups.io email as SPAM or Junk - instead report offending messages to their Group <[email protected]>
-always unmark and move any Groups.io email marked as SPAM or Junk to their Inbox - then read and/or delete it

Michael


Re: Member in membership not recognized by Groups.io

 

Frances,

Thanks for the tips.?? There were two problems:

"Problem was the email address I was using. I always omit the dot between first and last name ¡ª and, until now, with no problem.?
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Seem that .io needs the dot."

And, the user was set to have all messages moderated for some reason.

Thanks again,

Dan
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Re: Can Mods hide a post? #howto

 

Paul M.,

NOTE: I checked on Beta just now and saw that the topic had been
discussed a while back but that no concrete decision was made and the
idea of hiding a post or topic was set to the side for the time being.
I remember that:


Wondering now, is it maybe time to reconsider this idea of being able
to hide/display a post/topic?
I still support the idea. I don't know where it fits in Groups.io's list of suggestions, but I see no reason not to reply to it now, especially if you can articulate a compelling use case for the feature.

Shal


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Re: navigating page numbers

 

Win,

I¡¯m about to go to bed and will be closing down the computer. Is there
any way to jump to this same page when I start again tomorrow?
In a completely different vein than Bruce's, I've selected the option in my browsers (Firefox and Edge) to have them restore the tabs (windows) from my previous session when I start up again.

Of course neither of these address the underlying issue: that Groups.io lacks a "go to" capability for these paginated lists.

Shal


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Re: Interpreting email delivery response

Larry Parsons
 

I have 4 members that haven't responded to our groups email since we migrated from Yahoo at the beginning of Dec. 2019 that had the gsmtp code. I assumed from the research above they were receiving the email but it was going into their spam. Then I checked my own email to see what the normal code looked like and it had the gsmtp code at the end and I received the email ok.

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Message[CCABOD] 2023 National Specialty in Ft. Wayne, INDelivered10:38amResponse2.0.0 OK 1578242329 w8si60276258pgh.217 - gsmtp


Re: Groups.io navigation (was Calendar time problem)

 

WRB,

Everyone is a newbie once. It would be instantly obvious if it
were ¡°Account: followed by (unique identifier chosen)
Perhaps. But my purpose in this topic was to help you and other readers to understand and use Groups.io as it is. The (belated) screen shots were only a means to that end.

If you want to discuss possible improvements to site navigation perhaps you should start a new topic for that to make it clear to readers that it contains suggested site improvements rather than "how to" information. BTW, although suggestions discussed in GMF won't be seen by Groups.io, I've no problem with discussing them here to "hone" them before posting them in beta. As long as the topic is clearly identified as such.

Shal
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Re: Enterprise Group site unavailable after small change? #bug

 

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:35 AM, Peter Haack wrote:
I still can't for some reason :(
Did you notice that the link I gave shows a different order of the parts?? I suspect that what you changed had something to do with that.

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Re: Can Mods hide a post? #howto

 

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:33 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
When this happens is there a way ¨Cshort of deleting the post¨C to toggle the message to display or hide it from view online at the group's site?
To answer this question - No.

My understanding of the beta suggestion is that would hide ALL messages, making the group email only.

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Re: Wiki page

 

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 05:33 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
I have changed settings to allow members to view and edit.
Did you remember to Update Group, i.e. save the change?

Chris


Re: bouncing members

 

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Hi Ann,
Have a look at the help on the groups.io main page, it describes in detail how bounces are handled in groups.io.
Quote from that:

our final step is to set the account¡¯s status to?Bounced?and stop sending emails of any kind to it.

So the account is never deleted automatically, but groups.io will stop sending any emails to it after it decides that the account cannot be reached by email.

Kind regards
Thomas

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Am 05.01.2020 um 17:04 schrieb Ann Wild via Groups.Io <annlwild@...>:

?I have a another question about bouncing members: Does groups.io delete them after a period of time? ?If so, how long? ?I have been working to whittle down my number of bouncing members, but still have some left. It is time-consuming. ?Hence my question.

Ann


Re: Enterprise Group site unavailable after small change? #bug

 

Ok thanks for confirming that everyone can get to the group!

I still can't for some reason :(


Re: Custom Invite Question

 

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Duane wrote:
An invitation assumes that you've already checked people out and want them on your group, so acceptance allows them in.? If you need to do more pre-checking, you'll need to do it before sending an invitation.
I thought about this for quite some time when out walking the dog. :) If someone applies "out of the blue" and provides a response to the Pending Subscription message in some way that is unsatisfactory (for want of a better word) then they can have their application rejected; no problem. But to my way of thinking inviting someone to join and then rejecting them for some reason seems somehow dishonourable or perhaps just plain rude.

I can just see the point that Cindy made in her post, but only just. Obviously this is a purely personal opinion but sometimes the degree of control that Owners seem to want to exercise crosses the border into micromanagement.

Chris


Re: AOL members / issues

Larry Parsons
 

We just transferred from Yahoo group a month ago. A clean migration of 38,000 emails--thank you very much.
Currently working on 7 of 52 members who haven't engaged. I have one AOL account not responding that has the dirdel response. I checked several of our other AOL accounts and they all get the dirdel response, so I think it may be the rule and not the exception.??


Wiki page

 

I have a member (not moderated) that is trying to add information to a new wiki page. He is unable to add anything and I have changed settings to allow members to view and edit. Am I the only one (owner) that can start pages?
Susan


Can Mods hide a post? #howto

 

Hello GMF Members,

Occasionally a member will ask a personal question of another member but not click on the Private Button so that the question or sometimes the reply alone will get posted to the Message page.

When this happens is there a way ¨Cshort of deleting the post¨C to toggle the message to display or hide it from view online at the group's site? I realize that this message may have also been sent out to all members who receive emails and digests, but it might well prove better that that post not remain permanently in the message archives ¨Cat least not visibly.

I ask because I've done several searches here on GMF and have not found this specific topic discussed.

NOTE: I checked on Beta just now and saw that the topic had been discussed a while back but that no concrete decision was made and the idea of hiding a post or topic was set to the side for the time being. Wondering now, is it maybe time to reconsider this idea of being able to hide/display a post/topic?

Regards,

Paul M.
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