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Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
David P. Dillard
Let me tell you from one example, how different things are in the world of Groups.IO. One Saturday night I went to Groups.io and it did not exist. This was quite a while ago. I found Mark Fletchers email address and let him know about the problem. Within two yours I and group owners lists had an apology and the problem was fixed and Mark, as I understand it, was on his last day of vacation in Paris, France. Anyone know any stories like that from their encounters with services or businesses? I cannot think of a better discussion group service than Groups.IO and I have experience with quite a few of them.
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Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@... . . On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Marlin47 wrote:
Ellen, your group is not the only group experiencing this problem. |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
Ellen,
I said: If you decide to transfer your group you should let your Yahoo GroupNow I'm laughing at myself - I forgot that you got here because that's the thing you're unable to do in your Yahoo group. Unless you have an alternative way of getting in touch with those members. Shal |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
All right. Thank you. I am not digitally expert but tonight after supper, all? work put away, I will try to look into it. I may come back with questions!? I am glad the Yahoo group may not go away as it has thousands of postings, a few hundred pictures probably, files and so on.?I did not open it myself: I inherited it as I did two other yahoo listservs when the owner/moderators tired of them. ?I hope all have a good day tomorrow -- to?those who keep the US Thanksgiving. Ellen On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Ellen, |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
Ellen,
Could you tell me what is oi forum and Groups.IO world?As I mentioned, Groups.io is a service that competes with Yahoo Groups. Here's some more background information: /static/about On that page follow the link to the Groups.io announcement if you're interested in the history of it. Before proceeding I need more information as well as detailedThe instructions available through the transfer link are pretty detailed. Let us know what questions you have after reading them: /static/transfer One thing I should have mentioned is that the "transfer" process makes no changes to your Yahoo Group. If you decide to transfer your group you should let your Yahoo Group members know what you're about to do. Otherwise the only thing they'll see is the "welcome" message from Groups.io, and that may confuse them if you haven't told them to expect it. Shal |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýEllen, your group is not the only group experiencing this problem. I have at least two groups that I know of that are having the same thing. It started out Monday morning for me, the two groups that I see this happening on were still sending me notices that there were messages to approve, as late as Monday morning, two days ago. But, when I approved them, nothing went through the groups. Now, as of yesterday morning, I am not receiving any notices of
pending messages. I attempted to send messages to the groups myself, again
nothing.? No notices of pending messages and nothing showing
pending messages on the websites of the groups. I attempted to post messages from the websites of the groups, again nothing. I sent messages to the -owner addresses of both groups, again nothing. The groups are normally quite active, so I am sure I have a lot of members who are seriously wondering what has happened to all my moderators. Marlin
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Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
I have answered. Could you tell me what is oi forum and Groups.IO world? I know nothing about it -- and I thought this was a yahoo listserv, and now see it's a Group.io list. Before proceeding I need more information as well as detailed instructions on how to.
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Ellen
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:31 PM, David P. Dillard <jwne@...> wrote:
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Re: Changing the wording of messages and pages
newcastle.ramblers,
However, I have not been able to find a way to change theAs Sarah mentioned you can add your own content to the footer. But there is no way to alter the standard Groups.io footer content. For announcement groups, all of these are irrelevant except:I think the only ones that are actually irrelevent are Reply To Sender, Reply To Group, and New Topic. The first two will create an email message which will bounce back from an Announcement Only group, the third would take a member to a page they can't access. That sounds like a good suggestion to make in beta@ - remove those three items from the footer if the group is set to Announcement Group. On the web site, people are presented with a big page and lots ofI haven't followed an Invite link lately, so I'm not sure what all is there (a screen shot would have been handy). I don't believe there are any group owner controls to change the content of the Invite landing page. That would be another thing that would have to be taken up as a suggestion in the beta group. Shal |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
David P. Dillard
I could not have said this better myself and I totally agree.
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Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@... On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Shal Farley wrote:
Ellen,I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my WomenYou've posted about this problem in GMF's sister group at Yahoo, so hopefully you know from reading the other messages there that your group is not alone in having that problem recently. |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
David P. Dillard
Ellen Moody posts many posts to her own lists and I suspect she has been posting and they have not been posted to the list archives and members.
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Ellen, have you tried to post from the web home page of the list rather than via email as this sometimes will work. Also is your email address accepted by Yahoo, they sometimes block emails for issues like bouncing and the email does not have to be bouncing for this reason. It would be a very good idea to back this list up on Groups.IO and have the archives and membership transferred. One certainly does not have the problem of reaching a human being in the Groups.IO world. One person, Mark, runs circles around the Yahoo, Oath, Verizon megalith "competition" in the world of groups. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@... On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, The Surferr wrote:
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Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
Oh I see . Transfer. I've thought of it for this group. Let me look at it later today. Thank you for the advice and showing me these forums. Ellen On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Ellen, |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
Ellen,
I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my WomenYou've posted about this problem in GMF's sister group at Yahoo, so hopefully you know from reading the other messages there that your group is not alone in having that problem recently. I have tried all I can to reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help"And you should also know from the messages there that Yahoo's Customer Care no longer supports Yahoo Groups, and hasn't for some time. So the answer basically is that they'll either fix it or they won't. The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another.So, now that you've visited a group on Groups.io, a service that competes with Yahoo, perhaps the time is ripe for your group to jump ship, as all of my active groups have. Come on in, the water's warm. We'll give you what advice we can on setting up your new group here and having your members and content copied over from Yahoo. /static/transfer Shal |
Re: Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
The Surferr
Ellen It may not have anything to do with Yahoo as it may simply be that no one is interested in the group especially at this time of year and it does take awhile to build up a group. I would suggest you redo the title and capitalize the W for writers as Womenwriters does not look as good as Women Writers would. Also try to attach your group URL to other groups comments section. Remember Advertise Advertise Advertise is the only way.On 22 November 2017 at 06:44, Ellen Moody <ellen.moody@...> wrote:
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Have you confirmed that people are sending messages? My lists tend to go dead on holidays.
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Sharon On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:44 AM, Ellen Moody <ellen.moody@...> wrote: |
Re: Requiring email addresses
I have that disabled for my groups. You are only allowed to post to the group on the website, you may not reply to all, or do a private reply. Now in the email interface you can as you can see the people who are in the thread. This actually came in handy as someone forgot to put their email in the mesage and I needed to write to them to get a voiceover script to work on this weekend for a project they need by Sunday so that came in handy. But no, if you are using the website like a forum, all other options are disabled. As I want to see everybody who replies.
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Take care and have a happy wednesday On Nov 21, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: |
Re: Changing the wording of messages and pages
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIf you mean the footer, you can actually type in custom text in the settings under ?under your group, then admin, then settings. I just modified my android list to list resources people could use. For an example look at the group in my sig, although I'm not sure if the new footer will show up on the older messages.?Doubt it. Oh well. I hope one is there for people to see.Take care and be blessed. For an android list in the making where android apps, accessibility, phones and development can be discussed ?subscribe send a blank email to and follow the prompts. to visit the subgroups ?and subscribe (note you must be subscribed to the main group as well) visit the following URL:
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Problems with Women Writers through the Ages @ Yahoo
I am wondering if anyone can help me and the people on my Women Writers through the Ages listserv at Yahoo. We are now in the third day, more than 48 hours, of no messages coming into or being sent from this listserv. I have tried all I can to? reach someone at Yahoo, but the "help" material is not designed for me to reach anyone with power to help. None of the suggestions made are pertinent as I am the listowner. I know to do all that is suggested: refresh browser, clean cache. Here is the URL of the listserv: Here is the email: The listserv is a small group of friends and we miss one another. It's supportive and we read together and discuss books and movies by women. Sincerely, Ellen Moody |
Changing the wording of messages and pages
Hello I was pleased to see that most of groups.io's messages can be customised. However, I have not been able to find a way to change the text at the bottom of every message: You receive all messages sent to this group. | Reply To Sender | Reply To Group | Mute This Topic | For announcement groups, all of these are irrelevant except: |
Re: Requiring email addresses
Richard,
... (unless there is a private messaging facility, which groups.ioThere is, sort-of, for a loose meaning of the word private. If you click on Reply under a member's post there is a "Private" button over to the right. Clicking that will change a default "Reply to Group" into a "Reply to Sender". A member can use that without knowledge of the other member's email address, but one caveat and one loophole: 1) The replying member's email address is exposed in the From field of the message sent to the original poster. Same as it would have been in a group message. With an anonymity feature I'd have to assume some other address would be there. 2) The loophole: if the replying member checks the "BCC me" box, the BCC they get will expose the original poster's email address in the To field. With an anonymity feature I think the BCC field would need to be used for both addressees, to avoid revealing the original poster's email address to the replying member. ... though I'd be very surprised if it hasn't been discussedRight you are, it was extensively discussed in beta@. Shal |
Re: Member list vs. member directory
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOk thanks, I¡¯ve done that. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J_Catlady
Sent: 21 November 2017 15:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Member list vs. member directory ? On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:00 am, Richard L King wrote:
I think this is so comprehensive and straightforward that you should repeat this wishlist to the beta group, which is the place for new feature suggestions. Some of these have been discussed there ad infinitum and some are even on the Trello todo list. If you do that, I (and probably others) will comment there on the individual items. For example, #4 is something I broached long ago and I believe is on the Todo list. A version of #1 (which was going by the name of "Private Groups" for awhile in the beta group - you can search on it) was also discussed ad infinitum, and Mark was even working on implementing it as an option for enterprise groups at one point (except for the option for group owners not to have access to the info - doubt you would get very many takers there). Etc. |
NextDoor, YahooGroups, Google
When NextDoor started someone called me repeatedly to get me to join. I didn¡¯t for several reasons. They were pushing security and guaranteeing that no one would be on the list unless they were guaranteed to be real neighbors. They had the neighborhoods drawn by their own definitions, which doesn¡¯t work because people form their own neighborhoods. Some people are on our list to keep in touch but they live elsewhere now. Some relate to this neighborhood more than an adjacent one so they are on our list. We don¡¯t restrict membership, only the topics ¡ªwe don¡¯t discuss politics in other neighborhoods, for example. We don¡¯t list classes in other neighborhoods unless a member specifically wants to recommend them. So the lack of democracy and the narrowness of the focus are uninteresting to me. I also felt that the narrowness of focus is really so they can market more specifically. It just gives the marketing people more information on demographics and changing demographics over time. It felt like another commercial guinea pig opportunity. Aside from an excellent and continually improving service, what I like about Groups.io is that it has a business plan based on providing services, not on selling information or tacking on ads everywhere. As a provider, that makes Groups.io more attractive because it has the features a group might need as it grows. The features are there if we need them. In addition to horror stories about Yahoo, there are stories about Google. My cohousing community started a wiki on GoogleSites to keep track of facilities issues. It was a huge success with members loving it who didn¡¯t even like email, much less use computers. People in their 70s with no online experience would enter information frequently about HVAC repairs, serial numbers, warranties, reports from service people ¡ªon everything. Then comes the little known fact ¡ª sites are limited to 1MB of information. We are at 99%, there is no ability to buy more storage, and no ability to easily transfer the information elsewhere ¡ª like to Groups.io. We will have to move all the minutes of meetings to our website to make room for the chronological recordings of wiki info. Bad because now people have to search in two places to be sure to have all the information. So I¡¯m leery of a lot of "free¡± online stuff. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC |