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Moving to Groups.io (without the Easy Yahoo Group transfer mechanism) #howtoguide

 

See this wiki page.?
Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)

Although things are in flux with the changes in YG, here are some options that might work for you.

Frances


GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers


Re: Yahoo group deadline extension #yahoo #transfer

 

On 2019.12.14 1155, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
My data request worked and when I downloaded the huge file and took a
look, I found some interesting things:

1 - it downloaded data from ALL my Yahoo groups, not just the ones I
moderate/own
2 - messages were also downloaded (file format I could open only with
Notepad ++)
3 - the only photos downloaded were ones that I uploaded - no idea why
all photos weren't downloaded

Chris
Bingo. What you received is what Yahoo! said would be available in the bundle they create for us.

You've another 3 hours to get Photos and Attachments if you wish them.

PGO may be used to download photos in batches. Even the trial version of the software will do so in batches of 20. Albums become directories.

Shal has offered some other bits.

Cheers, John
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Re: The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Already subscribed

 

Laurence,

I just received a message by way of my personal email that begins with
"I can't seem to figure out how to get into the new group to reply."
Perhaps this link will help that person:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

I do a search and her email does not come up.....I do a direct
add and I get the message in the subject line.....what am doing wrong?
As Duane said, you must be searching the Members page.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Directory-and-Members-List

If that's where you were I've no idea, unless maybe you typoed the address when searching for it.

Shal



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Re: The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Already subscribed

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 06:55 PM, Beck, Laurence wrote:
I do a search and her email does not come up
You have to search on the Members page.? It won't show up from the Messages pages.

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The following email addresses had errors: [email protected]: Already subscribed

 

the group is new, members are posting, seems all is write with the world....I just received a message by way of my personal email that begins with "I can't seem to figure out how to get into the new group to reply. " I do a search and her email does not come up.....I do a direct add and I get the message in the subject line.....what am doing wrong?


Re: To sub group members automatically get main group posts?

 

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It somewhat depends on the purpose of the subgroup.

For example, I have a large group on a general topic and several subgroups on particular aspects. This was done because the subgroup transfer costs could not be justified by the smaller membership but the subgroups are worth keeping.

So, while the default is everyone gets all messages to the main group, I encourage subgroup members to set their main group message preference to no email.
Hence subgroup members get only the subgroup messages and the very few Special Notices from the main group.

-John

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On 12/14/2019 6:53 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 06:47 PM, Womens Grapevine wrote:
If all main group emails go to everybody in sub groups, then the organizing group responsible for the list should have their own sub group for their own internal organizing.
Whenever a subset of the general membership exists, and might need to discuss things among themselves without the involvement of everybody else, this is a natural case for a subgroup...with the membership at large in the main group.

Examples include a committee, board of directors, and so on (Ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup#Examples).

Bruce


Re: To sub group members automatically get main group posts?

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 06:47 PM, Womens Grapevine wrote:
If all main group emails go to everybody in sub groups, then the organizing group responsible for the list should have their own sub group for their own internal organizing.
Whenever a subset of the general membership exists, and might need to discuss things among themselves without the involvement of everybody else, this is a natural case for a subgroup...with the membership at large in the main group.

Examples include a committee, board of directors, and so on (Ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup#Examples).

Bruce


Re: To sub group members automatically get main group posts?

 

Thanks Bruce I think your answer to a) actually answers b) as well. If all main group emails go to everybody in sub groups, then the organizing group responsible for the list should have their own sub group for their own internal organizing.


Re: Identifying Sub-Groups

 

Larry,

Is it possible to determine and identify sub-groups of which you are a
main group member but not a sub-group member?
Yes.

If the group has subgroups there should be a Subgroups button in the left-column navigation list. On that page there are sections for "Subgroups You Belong To" and "Subgroups You Can Join".

However, there may be other subgroups that are not made visible to the parent group members (that's in the subgroup's Settings) and those will not be listed in the You Can Join list.

Shal


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Re: YGroups shutdown... In progress?

 

Paul,

BUT... in the queue of the individual messages in that Topics list,
when a message was clicked on it would load but there was no text
displayed other than the subject line.
I've been seeing that a lot in the last couple days. Generally refreshing the page will eventually cause the message body to display, but it may take several. I've had better results with Edge than Firefox, but that could be coincidence (I generally read in email, not on the group's pages).

The only YGroups I've got left now are GMF and one other gardening
group. Left them just to see what will happen when the Y!G
conversion/downsizing gets into full swing.
The plan is to keep GMF on Yahoo going in the new email-only era. I'll use some other facility (possibly YahooGroupedia) to host reference material which I used to cite just by pointing back to prior messages.

But how Yahoo is choosing which groups get converted first is a
mystery.
I don't think the deliberate removal of access is underway yet. I think what we're seeing with message body access is simply a manifestation of Neo's long-standing problem with accessing content in the face of server congestion or problems.

Shal
GMF Founder
Y!GMF Owner


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Identifying Sub-Groups

 

Is it possible to determine and identify sub-groups of which you are a main group member but not a sub-group member?

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Re: Yahoo group deadline extension #yahoo #transfer

 

Chris,

2 - messages were also downloaded (file format I could open only with
Notepad ++)
Those are mbox format - Mail Box - a standard for email storage.

Text based, but not particularly human-friendly as it includes the full header and encoding of the raw (View Source / Show Original) email message.

Try opening them with Thunderbird or another email program, or with a more general file reader.


Shal


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YGroups shutdown... In progress?

 

Just FWIW . . .

I've just finished unsubscribing from about twenty YGroups and noticed with several of those groups that the truncated messages showed in the TOPICS list on the message archives page. BUT... in the queue of the individual messages in that Topics list, when a message was clicked on it would load but there was no text displayed other than the subject line.

The only YGroups I've got left now are GMF and one other gardening group. Left them just to see what will happen when the Y!G conversion/downsizing gets into full swing. The way it seemed to me today is that it's happening piecemeal, affecting only certain groups. But how Yahoo is choosing which groups get converted first is a mystery.

Before I unsubscribed I sent a message to the group owners of several of my YGroups encouraging them to come setup a free, basic group on GIO. Hope that they'll consider doing so.

Cheers!

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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Re: Not getting IO mail [at twc.com]

 

Oh it's very throttled here. But it's coming in quicker now.

On Dec 14, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:

I don't know about throttling but I am receiving messages from GIO.

Donald

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:59:40 -0800, "Bruce Bowman"
<bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Is anyone else having trouble getting IO mail today, nothing is coming thru.Time-Warner Cable (twc) is a legacy domain currently owned by Charter.

Charter/rr/spectrum seems to be throttling groups.io messages again:

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM
/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp



Re: "CHANGE: We are no longer accepting new Yahoo Group transfer requests"?

 

BMaverick,

YG will be going DARK today. Not sure if it's 12-noon or 12-midnight
Eastern Time Zone.
A letter from Yahoo Concierge care says 11:59 PM Pacific time (2019-12-15 07:59 UTC):

Public archive, no membership required (it took me a few refreshes in Edge to get it to display).

They might be prompt. Or the removal of access may "roll-out" over time as most of their prior changes have.

Shal



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Re: Not getting IO mail [at twc.com]

 

I don't know about throttling but I am receiving messages from GIO.

Donald

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:59:40 -0800, "Bruce Bowman"
<bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Is anyone else having trouble getting IO mail today, nothing is coming thru.Time-Warner Cable (twc) is a legacy domain currently owned by Charter.

Charter/rr/spectrum seems to be throttling groups.io messages again:

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM
/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp


Re: Not getting IO mail [at twc.com]

 

I've been having the same problem, I just changed my email address to a different a different email. I hate doing this. But hopefully we will be unblocked soon.

On Dec 14, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Rhoda T Ezell <rtezell@...> wrote:

coming through fine- do not have Spectrum - have fiber from local phone provider.

On Dec 14, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 02:45 PM, Wolfie wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble getting IO mail today, nothing is coming thru.
Time-Warner Cable (twc) is a legacy domain currently owned by Charter.

Charter/rr/spectrum seems to be throttling groups.io messages again:

pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 421 p-impin011.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net cmsmtp 66.175.222.12 blocked AUP#CMPOL

Bruce


Re: Not getting IO mail [at twc.com]

 

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coming through fine- do not have Spectrum - have fiber from local phone provider.

On Dec 14, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 02:45 PM, Wolfie wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble getting IO mail today,? nothing is coming thru.
Time-Warner Cable (twc) is a legacy domain currently owned by Charter.

Charter/rr/spectrum seems to be throttling messages again:

pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 421 p-impin011. cmsmtp 66.175.222.12 blocked AUP#CMPOL

Bruce


Re: Yahoo group deadline extension #yahoo #transfer

 

My data request worked and when I downloaded the huge file and took a look, I found some interesting things:

1 - it downloaded data from ALL my Yahoo groups, not just the ones I moderate/own
2 - messages were also downloaded (file format I could open only with Notepad ++)
3 - the only photos downloaded were ones that I uploaded - no idea why all photos weren't downloaded

Chris


Re: Not getting IO mail [at twc.com]

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 02:45 PM, Wolfie wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble getting IO mail today,? nothing is coming thru.
Time-Warner Cable (twc) is a legacy domain currently owned by Charter.

Charter/rr/spectrum seems to be throttling groups.io messages again:

pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 421 p-impin011.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net cmsmtp 66.175.222.12 blocked AUP#CMPOL

Bruce