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Win,

However I thought that they were not members until approved.

They aren't.

The notice is confusing, and so is the process, a bit. There isn't a specific command to rescind my +subscribe request, so one uses the +unsubscribe feature to do that. It works out that way, as in the end you're not subscribed to the group; whether a mod approved you before you rescinded your request or not.

That is, whether it rescinds your request or actually unsubscribes you is only a matter of timing (a race between you and the mod who might have approved you).

Shal


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23157 is good, better access and response when members/owners whoever need help.

I realize you and Duane and shal can answer questions, but when owners have problems they sometimes need support, to fix them or tell them how to fix them.
i've seen a few posts sayinig they've emailed with no response.? Suggestions have been made here by mods that posters email support. as used to happen on yahoo manager groups.? When we had support.

Terri

I did read the entire thread.? I thought he had another owner, sorry about that.? One thing we were all taught when neo hit was to have at least 2 onwers, and lots of us made ourselves owners under different email addys.

Terri

>>BTW, He'll be on vacation starting tomorrow, until Jan 6, per his post in beta.<<

. . . and well deserved. clap, clap,clap, clap, clap,clap, clap, clap,clap, clap, clap,clap

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 04:50 PM, T Golding wrote:

I know this is a really stupid question because it's too simple, but why can't he just join under a totally different email...

He has already done this. Read the entire thread:??/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/67932959

...be promoted to owner under that email, invite his old email that he messed up, make that owner, and be done???

As the sole owner, there is no one else to promote him.

Bruce

In one of my Ygroups we actually sent out a monthly message with a proven technique for responding to an email message, snipping the message, changing the "to" line, and other matters.?

These were sent out automatically on the first (or, as time went on, within a week of the first.....usually).

Sandy

At 04:28 PM 12/13/2019, you wrote:

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 04:41 PM, T Golding wrote:

I hope nobody jumps me for asking this, but shouldn't Mark - or someone? - be available to help members who need support?

Here's Mark's most recent post on what his priorities are:??. See also?

As for what his priorities should be, I'm not prepared to make any assertions.

Regards,
Bruce

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 03:41 PM, T Golding wrote:

I hope nobody jumps me for asking this, but shouldn't Mark - or someone? - be available to help members who need support?

We're here to avoid overloading Mark with the "simple" questions.? Many of us have been around since near the beginning and can assist with most items.? If not, we'll point you toward support.? With the YG mess in progress, he wasn't answering any support emails.? Now he's given priority to Premium groups.? There's no telling how big the pile got, so patience is needed.? BTW, He'll be on vacation starting tomorrow, until Jan 6, per his post in beta.

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Bruce, I know this is a really stupid question because it's too simple, but why can't he just join under a totally different email, be promoted to owner under that email, invite his old email that he messed up, make that owner, and be done???
Terri

I hope nobody jumps me for asking this, but shouldn't Mark - or someone? - be available to help members who need support?? The rush is over - for now - and one of the strengths of this platform was supposed to be member support, that vanished from yahoo.? Especially for premium owners who paid a good bit to be here. It makes me uncomfortable that people who need help from the developer can't get it.

Terri

Right now I am an owner of our groups "Board" sub-group. There's really no reason for me to continue in this role except for emergencies. I was looking at the subscription tool and discovered the "Special Notices only" mode. It dawns on me that this may be the ideal mode for me to be in in that I wouldn't interfere with or even be privy to Board actions. So, I've scanned the Wiki on this and there is very little said.

For instance, how would the real owner send or designate a message as special? Would any other members of the group see it? Etc

Thanks.

Eric Johnson

I do that all the time Sandy, I did it on YG and I do it here.? It's way simpler than going through the opening another window, scrolling through the message in the other window.? Works great.

Terri

[Mod Note: This appears to be in reference to?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/26076]

Thankyou Bruce

I did notice the "Date" Link for my message list. I was hoping however that there was a global setting. My concern is that people unfamiliar with the format will see only the "original" post and not realize there is a new reply. I do recognize that a new reply will show up on the top of the list and will have the bold heading so it may not be an issue.

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On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 04:05 PM, Sun Seeker wrote:

Is there some way to change the order of the posts that show on the topic page?? On my messages page, each topic is shown, but the short text under the heading is the original message.? I would like to change it so that when members see the message page, they see a snippet of the latest post instead of the first post.

Sun Seeker -- Click on the "Date" link at upper right to invert the sort order.?There is no group setting for this, but once set, it should be "remembered" until you (perhaps inadvertently) change it again.

Bruce

I have done a search of the topics and did not see an answer.? Is there some way to change the order of the posts that show on the topic page?? On my messages page, each topic is shown, but the short text under the heading is the original message.? I would like to change it so that when members see the message page, they see a snippet of the latest post instead of the first post.

Thanks

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 03:47 PM, D&J Edgar wrote:

That does not make sense to me but if it does, then I will try it. ?To be specific, I would ask to join a Premium Group with the errant email address (of which I would never get a confirmation email to) and then owner of that group would backdoor confirm me and thus I would be confirmed in my owned group at the same time.

David -- It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but you're correct...a "bad" email address (e.g.: one incapable of receiving messages) can still be confirmed by having a Premium group owner Direct Add that address to his list of subscribers.

To refresh, my situation is where I, the sole owner of a regular group, tried to change my address and goofed typing it in. ?I am now listed as NC because the confirmation email never came to me since it is a bogus address with the wrong extension. ?And I am unable to get into my group to make any correction since I am NC.?

Confirmation may not help you with this, as you have to log in to change it. If the bad address can't receive an email and you have no password set up you're still going to find yourself stuck.

Bruce

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 02:41 PM, Sandy Kozinn wrote:

Any reason the user can't just change the "to" field manually by changing the the group name to an individual name if desired for an individual message? Will that not usually work?

In their email client, yes.? Online, no.

Duane
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On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 02:17 PM, <nanr93@...> wrote:

Now that Verizon will honor Yahoo download requests until Jan 31, 2020, I wonder whether groups.io will resume allowing easy transfer of Yahoo groups?

Nope.? The online archives are supposed to disappear after tomorrow, so GIO would have no way to access the information.? That information is only if you want to use the getmydata request from YG directly.

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