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On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 06:21 PM, Dave Rypma wrote:

Once he's confirmed by an owner of a premium group, that same owner can change the email address to whatever is necessary.

Ah. I forgot about that. Maybe that will work!

Bruce

Once he's confirmed by an owner of a premium group, that same owner can change the email address to whatever is necessary.

Dave.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 08:02 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 01:49 PM, Bill Mosca wrote:

The Yahoo groups put the quoted post at the bottom of the reply.

No it doesn't. Click the icon to quote the whole previous message and then do what you want.
You may have to instruct your members..

Is there

a setting in GIO, either for group or subscription, as to the placement of
the quote (before or after the reply)?

Bill -- This has been discussed at length here in GMF and in beta, and
everyone seems to have their own opinion of what is "correct." The default
behavior of the online message editor is no quoting at all, leaving it up to
the individual. Personally, I like this approach...the incessant
bottom-quoting of each successive message in Yahoo could get pretty
ridiculous, especially for those who receive digests.

That's why *in digests* the autotrim removes EVERYTHING under the last unindented line.
I myself would prefer to have it in individual messages too, like is optional in googlegroups.

groetjes, Ronaldo

Cindy,

I have been promoted from moderator to owner but I don't see how to
send out an admin message or special notice message so that those who
are set to special notices only will get my message.

That functionality (New Topic) has already been removed from Y!Groups' web pages. If you are willing to do a bit of trickery it is possible to send a Special Notice by email - it requires access to an email user interface that lets you insert custom header fields (like Thunderbird).

It will just go out under my account....

Yup.

will the fact that now I'm an owner it will go to everyone?

Nope.

Those on Special Notices and No Email will not get your message. At this point I'm not sure what the point is in either of those settings, as shortly email will be all there is.

I don't want to tell you you should go switch all the members to Individual Emails (that could be lot of work) but any member who isn't set that way going forward is probably not going to be able to participate in the group.

And do you know what will happen to people who have their
subscriptions set to daily digests since digests are going away?

Yahoo hasn't said.

I think the safest assumption is that nothing will happen - they'll just stop getting digests. I'd be mildly surprised if Yahoo went to the effort of changing their setting automatically, or changing the code to ignore their setting.

Shal


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Thanks, Bruce, we were just trying to suggest another option for OP Art Kocsis,
unsure if it would work on the GIO platform.
Another way around the difficulty of posting properly arranged tabular material
would be to lay it out as you like in whatever font in a word processor, take a
screen shot of that, save it as a .jpg or .gif or .png or whatever in your graphics
programme, and add that image to the post. The drawback of course is that
the text in the table would no longer be searchable.

On 12-13-2019 03:40, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 04:49 AM, Art Kocsis wrote:
>This is the way all groups should be.
IMHO there is no one-size-fits-all formula; it is for individual group owners to determine what works best for them and their group(s).

You're right, of course. I did not word that very well. What I should have written:
This is the way all groups should be able to choose to be.

With my GIO subgroups, I do have that choice. For the parent group, I do not.

PS: I don't know where on the globe you reside; I am in the UK where moderation delays on this group can be quite long because all the mods are on the other side of the Atlantic with a 6 - 8 hour time difference. One can get used to it quite easily...

Yes, humans can habituate to all kinds of unpleasant stuff but if you had your choice, would you?

Art

Win,

However I thought that they were not members until approved.

They aren't.

The notice is confusing, and so is the process, a bit. There isn't a specific command to rescind my +subscribe request, so one uses the +unsubscribe feature to do that. It works out that way, as in the end you're not subscribed to the group; whether a mod approved you before you rescinded your request or not.

That is, whether it rescinds your request or actually unsubscribes you is only a matter of timing (a race between you and the mod who might have approved you).

Shal


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23157 is good, better access and response when members/owners whoever need help.

I realize you and Duane and shal can answer questions, but when owners have problems they sometimes need support, to fix them or tell them how to fix them.
i've seen a few posts sayinig they've emailed with no response.? Suggestions have been made here by mods that posters email support. as used to happen on yahoo manager groups.? When we had support.

Terri

I did read the entire thread.? I thought he had another owner, sorry about that.? One thing we were all taught when neo hit was to have at least 2 onwers, and lots of us made ourselves owners under different email addys.

Terri

>>BTW, He'll be on vacation starting tomorrow, until Jan 6, per his post in beta.<<

. . . and well deserved. clap, clap,clap, clap, clap,clap, clap, clap,clap, clap, clap,clap

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 04:50 PM, T Golding wrote:

I know this is a really stupid question because it's too simple, but why can't he just join under a totally different email...

He has already done this. Read the entire thread:??/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/67932959

...be promoted to owner under that email, invite his old email that he messed up, make that owner, and be done???

As the sole owner, there is no one else to promote him.

Bruce

In one of my Ygroups we actually sent out a monthly message with a proven technique for responding to an email message, snipping the message, changing the "to" line, and other matters.?

These were sent out automatically on the first (or, as time went on, within a week of the first.....usually).

Sandy

At 04:28 PM 12/13/2019, you wrote:

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 04:41 PM, T Golding wrote:

I hope nobody jumps me for asking this, but shouldn't Mark - or someone? - be available to help members who need support?

Here's Mark's most recent post on what his priorities are:??. See also?

As for what his priorities should be, I'm not prepared to make any assertions.

Regards,
Bruce

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 03:41 PM, T Golding wrote:

I hope nobody jumps me for asking this, but shouldn't Mark - or someone? - be available to help members who need support?

We're here to avoid overloading Mark with the "simple" questions.? Many of us have been around since near the beginning and can assist with most items.? If not, we'll point you toward support.? With the YG mess in progress, he wasn't answering any support emails.? Now he's given priority to Premium groups.? There's no telling how big the pile got, so patience is needed.? BTW, He'll be on vacation starting tomorrow, until Jan 6, per his post in beta.

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Bruce, I know this is a really stupid question because it's too simple, but why can't he just join under a totally different email, be promoted to owner under that email, invite his old email that he messed up, make that owner, and be done???
Terri

I hope nobody jumps me for asking this, but shouldn't Mark - or someone? - be available to help members who need support?? The rush is over - for now - and one of the strengths of this platform was supposed to be member support, that vanished from yahoo.? Especially for premium owners who paid a good bit to be here. It makes me uncomfortable that people who need help from the developer can't get it.

Terri

Right now I am an owner of our groups "Board" sub-group. There's really no reason for me to continue in this role except for emergencies. I was looking at the subscription tool and discovered the "Special Notices only" mode. It dawns on me that this may be the ideal mode for me to be in in that I wouldn't interfere with or even be privy to Board actions. So, I've scanned the Wiki on this and there is very little said.

For instance, how would the real owner send or designate a message as special? Would any other members of the group see it? Etc

Thanks.

Eric Johnson

I do that all the time Sandy, I did it on YG and I do it here.? It's way simpler than going through the opening another window, scrolling through the message in the other window.? Works great.

Terri

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Thankyou Bruce

I did notice the "Date" Link for my message list. I was hoping however that there was a global setting. My concern is that people unfamiliar with the format will see only the "original" post and not realize there is a new reply. I do recognize that a new reply will show up on the top of the list and will have the bold heading so it may not be an issue.

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