On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:42 PM, <andyt650@...> wrote:

how your Perl script handles the "ownership" of each post. When your script is
finished uploading, will the "By XXXXX" in each post? list? the original?
email address of the Yahoo member who posted the message?

Yes if that member is currently subscribed to the .io group (present in memberlist.csv) and neither moderated nor bouncing.

Or will it be ME in
the "By"? (I'm running the script)?

You subscribe a separate mailbox for this purpose (for messages from members not currently subscribed).

when your Perl program parses and makes substitutions from?
memberlist.csv, needchange.txt, and map.txt , these will not affect "BY XXXX"
in each post? correct? These changes will only affect the FROM: in the meat
of the post which is on the first line of the post?

If a member is in map.txt then the new address will be in "By".

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On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:30 PM, Andrea wrote:

Most times your new implementation works, we worked with it in the
meantime. But for a reason we do not understand this does not always
work, but only in about 50% of the messages.

What exactly doesn't work? I fixed a bug (a deleted message caused all next messages in a mbox file to be skipped).

And then - we have a problem with "bounced" Subjects, even if they are
"no mail"-subjects. In this cases following happens:
Programm log says: "after sending message xxx: 500 ... is bouncing..."
and then the whole programm stops.

Download the memberlist.csv file again from Members - Download.

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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 08:29 AM, JD Erskine wrote:

An aberration? A little burp as we super load the system?

Email addresses at some domains are intentionally munged in order to get the recipient system to deliver them. See?/static/help#dmarc

Bruce

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 07:30 AM, JD Erskine wrote:

Just what is expected to happen when one sets it to REPLY GROUP AND SENDER?

Exactly that, the reply will go to both the group and the sender.? Reply List was used for a very short time, but it created too many problems.? How Reply or Reply All work depends on the email client.

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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 07:29 AM, Karin van Oostrum wrote:

Is this permanently, or only temporarily?

It's permanent for the Easy Transfer.? You can still do a manual transfer using the information at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

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I can only set it to receive domain emails to their personal one. I only check this forum once in the morning under the digest feature.?

If will email you privately where to find the auto forward feature (domain to personal). It used to be easy to find but it's now buried in an advanced feature which I can't recall offhand so I need to get back to my computer later this morning.?

If they want to reply using their domain email from their personal address, (which is what I do), some can. I use Gmail which allows me to reply from the address that it was sent to.?Gmx does the same but not all ISPs offer that ability. If not, then yes, they do have to log into the domain to reply.?

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Thank you all for your considered replies. I learned a lot and also went off to?CostaRicaLiving to learn about moving there. (I'm in a neighborhood group about retiring abroad.)

On the rare occasions I need to speak the name, formally it's Groups dot Eye Oh, but less formally Groupsie-oh. When the context is clear in writing, I use g.io.

?- Mark, but not that Mark

Greetings all,

I've beaten up all I can find, read more than covers the topic and find myself very confused and more than a bit disappointed in the apparent non-function of REPLY GROUP AND SENDER.

I was hoping for an elegant means of allowing message recipients to reply to whom they wanted, fairly clearly (in a revealing way -- seeing who the addies are), and definitely easily. This whether from the web interface, webmail or an MTA (mail client.)

I've administered a number of listservers, Yahoo! Groups, and the like, using all of that mentioned.

I favour use of REPLY LIST in a (good) MTA (from 1996 to now) and REPLY (to Sender/Originator.) The non-munged approach. (My mobile MTA (K9 Mail) forces use of REPLY ALL. sigh.)

I became Owner of a Y!G a couple of weeks ago to help save it. It was set for Reply Group. After several days of reading, trying different settings, and testing from and between the three chief means of accessing messages I've given up and have set it here to REPLY GROUP.

Just what is expected to happen when one sets it to REPLY GROUP AND SENDER?

I've seen seemingly unpredictable responses, with up to three choices, and _no_ choices! I can hit up REPLY or REPLY ALL (REPLY LIST not appearing in Fossa Mail, Thunderbird fork) and get no satisfaction.

Sorry, super tired after learning at a great rate, working for days to achieve an optimal (plus cheap) save and feeling confounded in spite of prior knowledge, trying to not assume overly much, toward a satisfactory response. I feel like I've gone dumb and have disappointingly decided to press on with the lowest common (munged) denominator. <grin>

So, a wordy plea to make my case and help my understanding in this matter. I'm sure there may be some good questions about settings I've tried. I'm really beyond that.

What can be achieved? What needs to be set to do it?

Cheers, John
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I wanted to transfer a group from Yahoo to Groups.Io. However, there is a message telling me it is no longer possible to do so.

Is this permanently, or only temporarily?

Using Private response, logged-in at the web interface generates in some instances a lack of a "via" path (my interpretation of what is observed.)

A post of mine, viewed from other subscribed accounts of mine, using an MTA (mail client), show this on occasion:

address=domain.xx@[]

Somewhat strange.

Now, the same use (logged-in to web interface at GIO) and sent to group/sender produced the same. On occasion. (Private mode obviously not used.)

address=domain.xx@[]

Very strange.

Thoughts? An aberration? A little burp as we super load the system?

Thanks, John
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 04:09 PM, Rob Halligan wrote:

This is a bit of dumb question but what do you all call this service? Pronouncing "Groups dot I O" doesn't exactly flow off the tongue. I thought someone on here may have a better way to refer to it to newcombers. (I bought a domain that I forwarded to our group's Groups.io - DupontForum.com.)?

Rob, besides the pronunciation question here is some information to the extension .io from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (which you probably know, but just in case):

"The () .io is assigned to the . The .io domain is administered by the , a company based in the ."

Victoria

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?
Introduced	1997
type
Status	Active
	NIC.IO (run by )
Sponsor	IO Top Level Domain Registry ()
Intended use	Entities connected with ?
Actual use	Popular with startup companies; little if anything related to the territory itself.
Registration restrictions	None for 2nd level registrations; 3rd level registrant must be resident of
Structure	Registrations are taken directly at the second level or at third level beneath various 2nd-level labels
Documents	;
Dispute policies
	yes
Registry website

Droxine,

Can I DL, say, files, from groups.io to my hard drive/OneDrive/google
docs/dropbox? What about msgs?

As a group owner/moderator yes. See the "Export Group Data" tab on your group's settings page.

Shal



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The download includes all groups of which you are a member, mod or owner.

Shal, thanks for the info!? I read yahoo's new help page the other day, and it appears I need 3 new programs to read everything.? Yay!? I'm not technical, and have never heard of these readers or file types.? Everything is just raw data hieroglyphics.? I thought a word type program would be able to make them friendly.? Apparently not. ?

It does not appear to contain complete content of Files, Photos, or Attachements (at least in my downloads)

V. disappointing :(? Glad they will be here, at least!? Can I DL, say, files, from groups.io to my hard drive/OneDrive/google docs/dropbox?? What about msgs?? Sorry that answer's probably on a wiki page or something.

BTW, I figured out why many/most of my links did not migrate to groups.io.? It was not a yahoo glitch.? I had such a big library of links that I had them organized into folders then subfolders in the links section.? Since groups.io doesn't have the capability to create subfolders in links section (or not that I could figure out, anyway), those in subfolders were the ones that did not come over.? Only links in main folders migrated.? Maybe in future subfolder support can be added.? In the meantime, I am manually importing the missed links one by one (edit link>copy>paste) and creating subcategories by simply repeating the main topic then using a colon and each subtopic.? It looks repetitive in the index, but maintains the organisation.? I thought I'd mention this if no one has brought it up yet, in case it helps someone.

Droxine

A big thank you to all of you who have helped so many people over the last two months. I was about ready to give up on trying to understand the transfer process but with your help I have been able to preserve important photos files and most importantly? tens of thousands of conversations regarding genealogy.?
I have read a few articles about Yahoo's decision, here is another
:https://thehftguy.com/2019/12/10/why-products-are-shutdown-the-case-of-verizon-and-yahoo-groups/
Thank you
Gary

A good strategy for someone using PGO-2-GIO for the first time is to pick a throwaway group name and do as many upload/delete cycles as needed. This will screen out bad attachments, file names munged by Yahoo, and other oddities. Once the messages and files have been groomed as needed, create the new group name and do a final upload. Then delete the throwaway group.

I had suggested that Wilson include an instruction to that effect with the final version.

Larry

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On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 10:32 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Change the group name to something like qqqqqqxxxxx, and only THEN delete it. At that point you should be able to reopen a new group using the same name.

A bit of followup on Bruce's comment.? You might want to create your new group after changing the name of the 'old' one.? Then you could refer to the original when making the settings for the 'real' group.? Hope that makes sense.

Duane
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