On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 08:57 PM, Dr. Denver Fox wrote:

I receive a lot of external messages with attachments which, when forwarded to the entire listserve, the attachments do not come through on the Digest

Disclosure; I do not know the answer, but I have some more questions that might help us work towards one!

Some clarification of your terminology would be useful. When you say I receive a lot of external messages with attachments do you mean that you personally receive them or are they sent to you as a moderator? Your mention of "forwarding" would suggest the former but some clarification might be helpful.

Either way, do the attachments appear on the group web UI or not? And do they appear on "Individual emails" when that is the chosen delivery method to subscribers?

I haven't been able to find anything relevant on any help pages (OK; I might have missed it!) but IIRC attachments are not scanned for viruses so it is possible that attachments sent by non - members of your group will be stripped off automatically.

And what is your Attachments setting in Settings? (Allow / Bounce / Strip / Moderate)

Chris

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I receive a lot of external messages with attachments which, when forwarded to the entire listserve, the attachments do not come through on the Digest, even though a full HTML digest is the setting.? I have tried this with one of my accounts, and I can't find the forwarded EMails attachments anywhere.? This is from my AOL email account.

What am I missing?? Do, I need to download the attachment, and then reattach it to the forwarded email?? I can't find these attachments on the groups.io PADCO web site, either.? I can't find an answer to this in "Help" nor searching herein.

Thanks!

Lacking a statement from Mark on the beta group, I took it upon myself to do a little digging about how many groups may have been transferred in the last 7 weeks.? As near as I can tell, almost 2000 groups, including almost 2,000,000 members have been added.? That's only based on the number of publicly listed groups, so it could be somewhat higher if many aren't listed in the Directory.? Hopefully he'll give a summary after he's had a chance to relax a bit.

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I receive a lot of external messages with attachments which, when forwarded to the entire listserve, the attachments do not come through on the Digest, even though a full HTML digest is the setting.? I have tried this with one of my accounts, and I can't find the forwarded Digests anywhere.? This is from my AOL email account.

What am I missing?? Do, I need to download the attachment, and then reattach it to the forwarded email?? I can't find these attachments on the groups.io PADCO web site, either.? I can't find an answer to this in "Help" nor searching herein.

Thanks!

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 03:26 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

I am on the small staff of a group that manages a really large, interactive dog pedigree service for three breeds. There is a small Yahoo group that is used for questions and support.

Do I read the Groups.io pricing correctly that we could create a group at no cost with the only real limit the membership area like no direct adds of members? We have no photos or other such and no databases other than the dog pedigree and that runs in SQL Server on a dedicated server. So, nothing other than messages and the threads are rather short-lived.

Correct, Eric. You can have a ?free group with a lot more than that. You can have photos, attachments, files, databases, wiki, calendar, polls.

There are restrictions, of course And a limit on storage, of course.
See?/static/pricing
(I know you saw it but wanted to make sure that others do too - some may value some of the premium features.)

You can get one month premium if you wish to direct add all of your members' email addresses. Or invite on the Invite page or ask them to use the subscribe email address.

See this wiki page about basic set up.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances

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On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 02:26 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

Do I read the Groups.io pricing correctly that we could create a group at no cost

Certainly!? Mark mentioned during the YG fiasco that there may be some additional limits on free groups coming in the new year, but hasn't presented the actual terms (and has edited his original comment.)

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On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 01:26 PM, Frances wrote:

1. Have you created a member notice for invitations?
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices

Make sure it is active.

You don't make invitation notices active (this was changed a few months ago.)? If you have more than one, they're all shown in the drop down on the Invite page and you can choose which to use, if any.

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On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 07:11 PM, Jim Allen wrote:

then there were pay $220 and or pay $20 a month for a year for a total of $240.? ?it was there.

Or more correctly, it wasn't.

You may not appreciate my pointing this out, but...

I have no idea exactly how many groups migrated from Yahoo, but it's a lot. A very significant proportion of those transfers took place after Mark announced the changes to the charging regime. Now the vast majority of those seem to have taken place without their owners and moderators having to submit enquiries here to the Group Managers Forum, but it has to be recognised that queries about the details of the payment were a common theme over the last (say) 6 or 7 weeks. The answer was always the same; it had to be a single payment for "Premium yearly", not a monthly payment plan for 12 months. To elaborate a little further on a point just made, while queries about this were common, there are good grounds for suspecting that this was a problem encountered by just a small proportion of the hundreds (thousands, more like) of transfers that took place without this financial hiccup arising.

Now as I am not a moderator of this group I have no idea how long you have been a member of the GMF, but Gerald's post made reference to a post submitted by Bruce on 1st November, which in turn was a response to a query of yours of the same date, so you have been a member for at least 5 weeks. That's 5 weeks during which the need for the transfer payment to be for a single Premium yearly plan popped up moderately often and yet you seem to have never spotted it.

Were you not looking at other peoples' queries and the responses to them over that period? There is a lot to be learned from other owners' and moderators' questions and answers, and just focussing on one's own immediate issue can result in missing a lot of potentially useful snippets. Here you seem to have missed the fact that a small number of other transferees had made the same slip as you had; had you spotted them you would have been able to make good the error in time for your transfer to go ahead.

I can fully understand your sense of frustration, but I think you ought to realise that a large part of the responsibility for your present predicament lies with you. It certainly does not lie with the GMF or its members; as has been pointed out this is a peer to peer group for Group Managers, not Groups.io Managers.?

Chris

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:00 PM, Don Grass wrote:

some great photos cannot be used because manipulating them to fit 900x300 pixels kind of ruins them for display

You don't need to do any manipulation.? I just uploaded a 1280 x 960 picture and it was resized to 400 x 300 without distortion on my PC monitor.? When I squished the browser down to phone size, it dropped to 253 x 190, but still clear.? (When I used a 2592 x 3872 picture, it was 300 x 488 on the PC.)

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I am on the small staff of a group that manages a really large, interactive dog pedigree service for three breeds. There is a small Yahoo group that is used for questions and support.

Do I read the Groups.io pricing correctly that we could create a group at no cost with the only real limit the membership area like no direct adds of members? We have no photos or other such and no databases other than the dog pedigree and that runs in SQL Server on a dedicated server. So, nothing other than messages and the threads are rather short-lived.

Eric Johnson

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:48 PM, Lewin de Partone wrote:

Is there a feature where I can select to auto delete messages or block limit of archive? I want to set up the group so if new members join they cannot see post prior to their joining?

No.? You could set up a hashtag and add it to each topic so that it would delete the topic after a given amount of time.? Kind of defeats the purpose of having a group though.? You could do it much more easily with a mailing list.

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On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:34 PM, Randall wrote:

I would think that pretty much says it's not just an Outlook issue, but a "Groups IO issue".

Nope.? It's GIO saying the server that sent the message doesn't have reverse DNS set up properly.? There are hundreds, if not thousands, of outlook servers, so there could be only one that's set up incorrectly and if that's the one your message goes through, you get the error.? BTW, there are other services that have the same problem, but outlook is the most common.

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For invites, see also: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Inviting-new-members

And notice that when you choose Invite from the dropdown menu on the Invite page, it shows the amended notice above. You can even tweak it further at that point if you wish before sending.

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You have two questions -?
1. About invitations and group description.
2. About reposting policy.?

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I'm slowly moving a(n esperanto-)group over, but when I send an invite, no info about the io-group comes with it.Is there a simple way to include the group-description?

BTW as to "reposting policy"....Does not ticking the box mean that no repostings are allowed at all, as in, double posts (accidental or intentional) will not get passed-on?

1. Have you created a member notice for invitations?
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices

Make sure it is active.
Then when you send an invitation, use the dropdown menu on the invite page to choose your invitation notice. This text ?will be incorporated into the standard message.?
You can also tweak the message on the fly, but the member notice will be easier in the long run.

2. I can't answer. Sorry.

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You realize that you only have a short time to do something if you wish to rescue your messages from YG.
December 14 is coming soon. The green button on the transfer page is no longer working. The notice says that no more transfers.
Focus on that. Find a plan.
Ask people what the best easiest way to do it is. What are your tech skills? Do you need step by step instructions?

And most importantly, what do you need to rescue? Just your members' email addresses?

See the FAQ #10 and #14. Or ask about that.
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I also asked in another email whether you had checked to see the message on the status of your transfer. I guess nothing has happened. You never pulled the trigger to start the transfer.

Frances

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I'm slowly moving a(n esperanto-)group over, but when I send an invite, no info about the io-group comes with it.

Is there a simple way to include the group-description?



BTW as to "reposting policy"....Does not ticking the box mean that no repostings are allowed at all, as in, double posts (accidental or intentional) will not get passed-on?


groetjes, Ronaldo

at first the transfer was 110? then that all changed.? then there were pay $220 and or pay $20 a month for a year for a total of $240.? ?it was there.??

so if i have to pay the $220 to transfer up front, do i get credit for the 40 i have already paid?? ?it would be nice to be able to just talk to a real person instead of this.? ?

i transfered a group before you had to pay..? ?everything went fine.

I just need to get it done.

help

Jim Allen

First, this is a peer-to-peer help group. No owners here.

Second, isn't this your post earlier today -?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/25695

You need to pay for a year if you want to be transferred (if you are lucky).

Otherwise just figure out another strategy. Get a download from Yahoo. Or use the Chrome browser, etc. etc.?
In the FAQ on moving from Yahoo Groups.

Or just use your month to "direct add" your members from your YG and then go to the free version of Groups.io

Frances
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thats not how i read it.? ? pay monthly is the same deal.? ?

Jim Allen