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On Dec 6, 2019, at 9:32 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY <rhyolite@...> wrote:

Nope, not so. I have no signature and my draft folders are filling up.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 12:02 PM, Lena wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 05:57 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:

My test consisted of clicking on Reply in the browser and then closing off the
browser
a draft is saved even if nothing is typed.
Because you have a signature.
Without signature empty draft isn't saved.

A Reply (with or without a signature) is always saved as a Draft, if it is not Discarded.



When I click on "View/Reply Online" button in an Groups.io group email message, it only takes me to the website to view that message.

At the website viewing that message, there are several options, including:
Reply
Like
More
View all Messages in this Topic
each of these option require at least one additional click.

Only if I click on Reply, is a form opened to compose a reply,
under that form are three buttons (green, red, and, white) :
Reply to Group
Discard
Private (prefixes subject with the word Private, and changes the Reply to button from Group to Sender and from green to blue).

A Draft is saved, if (and only if) I have clicked on Reply (whether I type anything or not) AND fail to click on Discard (for whatever reason).
This is how it is meant to function AND fits the behavior you describe...

Hello all,

Newbie here.? Just transferred my group from Yahoo.? Thanks Mark and everyone involved for all your hard work at this stressful time!? So, as Mark is swamped at the mo, he advised me to put my question/s to you kind folks.? I didn't find anything on help or wiki.??

Following the transfer, Mark advised that he had trouble migrating the links due to a yahoo glitch, and I'm having to do those manually.? I went to the group's new home here to see if the messages had all transferred (if the number of messages were about the same), and discovered that the number of my last (most recent) post/message in the new/io group is , whereas, in the old (yahoo) group it is labeled #8537. I might expect a small discrepancy, if I had to delete a message or two (in yahoo group) due to human error here and?
there, (spammers didn't really get in because it was a private group, mostly by invitation).? So, maybe a handful of times at most I remember deleting a message to replace or correct it. (Hated having to do that because it messed up the number continuity!|? But 766 messages is a notable discrepancy.? When I asked if this indicated that not all messages were successfully migrated Mark replied:
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"Due to the high volume of support requests right now (aka we're a bit overwhelmed!), we're unfortunately unable to provide a specific answer to your question.

That said, I will say that we see a lot of duplicate emails in the Yahoo Group archives, due to past bugs in their system (and not mistakes from users). We do not import duplicates, so often times the number of messages we import will be lower. That does not mean that we missed any messages."

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So, I guess I'm asking for thoughts and if anyone here can relate or confirm anything. It sounds like he's supplying a plausible explanation but that there is no way to definitively tell whether all msgs were copied. Is this "apparent volume loss" a normal percentage to expect when migrating from Yahoo?? I want to believe this explanation!? But the thing is, I pretty much lived on that group (it was like a full time job), and paid attention to everything, even the message numbers.? I think I would have noticed if that volume of messages (or message numbers) were being duplicated because of a glitch.? But maybe somehow I didn't notice(??) ?

It is important to me to have a complete, searchable database particularly of my contributions (which accounts for most of the material), so I can gather together material for a book. ?

Also, is there an easy way to establish whether all messages were transferred other than random checks or some kind of exhaustive side by side comparison (days are numbered, remember)?

Thanks in advance for any ideas,

Droxine

Hi all, It's a good idea to say FROM WHERE?? are you talking about trying to download "an entire directory of files" from yahoo group?? from groups.io group??

and then, say "what settings are you talking about".?

We all tend to assume everyone knows exactly what we're wondering about, but it helps to say it!? thanks, Gesine

I assume you have ?Allow Attachments ticked in Admin, Settings, Message Formatting. There is also a query about stripping out HTML messages.

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:39 PM, Beck, Laurence wrote:

We've created the above and a prospective member just sent (our first) reply to the questionaire. Our group is for dogs with a medical condition and I want to approve their message and at the same time forward the information to the group where there will be discussions/recommendations to help with the condition.

How do I do that?

If you simply want all members to get the post with the attachment, approving it will send the post with the attachment to all members. You might want to create a hashtag for it before you approve it.

Frances
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:39 PM, Beck, Laurence wrote:

We've created the above and a prospective member just sent (our first) reply to the questionaire. Our group is for dogs with a medical condition and I want to approve their message and at the same time forward the information to the group where there will be discussions/recommendations to help with the condition.

How do I do that?

Is the questionnaire an attachment? If yes, what format?

Frances
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We've created the above and a prospective member just sent (our first) reply to the questionaire. Our group is for dogs with a medical condition and I want to approve their message and at the same time forward the information to the group where there will be discussions/recommendations to help with the condition.

How do I do that?

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:22 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Hmmm... I lied. I just tried this and the drafts remain, or at least didn't go away immediately.

I could have sworn we recently had someone complain about accidentally logging out and losing all their drafts. I guess you do actually have to click open the Drafts page and delete them.

Oddly, when I click on View/Reply Online, it doesn't create a draft.

I am using Mac OS 10.15.1
Mail 13.0
(My mail is from our own domain name, not from Gmail, Yahoo, etc.)
Safari 13.0.3
I tried it with Firefox too. 71.0
All messages with "all messages"
And in several groups, including Beta in Daily Summary.

Frances
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:16 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

BTW, simply log out, and all your drafts will go away.

Hmmm... I lied. I just tried this and the drafts remain, or at least didn't go away immediately.

I could have sworn we recently had someone complain about accidentally logging out and losing all their drafts. I guess you do actually have to click open the Drafts page and delete them.

Bruce

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 08:42 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:

I sent a message to support. It is a bug not a feature.

Apparently you didn't bother reading the link that Shal posted earlier.? It is an asked for feature:
"Alas, it was suggested as a feature, and implemented as such. So it isn't seen (by the developer) as a bug to be fixed.
"
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 09:42 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:

I have no signature and my draft folders are filling up.

I support what you're doing, but only in the context of clicking the View/Reply Online button in a message opening the editor. I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally browsed away from a half-written message, and the resulting draft has saved my rear end.

BTW, simply log out, and all your drafts will go away.

Bruce

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 09:05 PM, MIchael L. Stokes wrote:

Following up is it possible for group.io and phpbb to share content.? In effect I'm asking if PHPBB can import and export email content?

Michael --?phpBB is a web forum/bulletin board, and there is no "email content" per se.?Although you could probably direct phpBB notifications to groups.io via an email integration, I see no path forward toward sending messages in the other direction.

Regards,
Bruce

1) Why would the button be labeled View/Reply if it is only intended for replying? Why not two separate functions? Other websites dont automaitically create draft messages. It is clearly an undesirable and wasteful programming error.
2) It is many times easier to read a thread online rather than sift through several mail digests. Especially when the thread is old and long.
3) Your last sentence is exactly what I am talking about.

Your logic is circular. I am getting dizzy...

Nope, not so. I have no signature and my draft folders are filling up.

I sent a message to support. It is a bug not a feature.

Thanks very much, it didn't work yesterday but does work today!!! Baffling.
Thanks!!!

Shal,

Following up is it possible for group.io and phpbb to share content.? In effect I'm asking if PHPBB can import and export email content? Probably a question for a PHPBB exprt!

Thanks
Mike

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 06:03 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:

On the day that GMX blocked the messages and notified Groups.io, you should have received an email from Groups.io. It would have explained that they had received a "suspected SPAM" message from GMX and would cease mailing to you.

That only happens for the spam case.? It doesn't apply when the 'error' is 4xx (421 in this case.)? A 4xx is a soft error from the service, so GIO keeps trying, at intervals, to send those emails.? Spam usually returns a 5xx code.

Duane
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