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Eric,

Is creating a sub-group as simple as identifying it in the group email
address but using the sub-group address?

No.

As Bruce said, you have to explicitly create the subgroup, and assign its email address and other settings. The settings are very similar to those of a primary group, differing mostly where membership is concerned.

See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup

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Jason,

The original owner has made me an owner of the yahoo group but I still
seem to not have full permissions of the existing yahoo group.

You may have been made a moderator with limited permissions. When visiting the Yahoo Group's pages click on the Membership menu. Look where it shows your email address. If you have a blue crown to the left of your email address you are signed in as an owner of that group. If it is a green crown you are signed in as a moderator.

Or if someone knows what instructions I can send the original owner
that might help?

Have a look at Steps 3 and 4 on this wiki page, it has screen shots of the Yahoo Groups pages you need (and you need to be able to promote the agent, not just invite the address):
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

If you can't get access to the Invite Members page, or to a member's Role setting, then feel free to send that wiki link to the original Yahoo Group owner. GMF's wiki is readable by the public so that person won't need a GMF subscription or Groups.io account to read it.

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Sandi,

If there were "GIO user tips on the day" I would sign up for them. I
keep finding "new to me features".

Here's a tip for today:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks

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Only an idea.

Maybe it is possible to setup a subgroup as a anouncement group. Set this group to be readable for anyone, writable only for mods.

Then link a anouncement topic to the calender subject.

Could this work to see then a embeded photo without loging in?

Isidro

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Gilbert/Su -- The URLs of photos in albums are also not static, changing as photos are added to or deleted from the album.

Bottom line is that you really need to host the image somewhere else if you want to ensure the desired behavior. Again, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/31532132#16547

Bruce

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Thanks again Duane. I started a new thread yesterday, and included a quote to help start the thread. I got the 'Show quoted text' button. In this case I didn't want that, as the quote was an integral part of my posting. What we really need, if wishes were horses, is that 'Show quoted text' shows up if and only if that text is visible earlier in the ?same thread. imho.

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:11 PM, Eshin wrote:

We have created a GIO group with a subgroup. Then we initiated an Easy Yahoo Transfer of messages to the subgroup, adding [email protected]?as a Yahoo member, now waiting an an acceptance which can take a week. In the meantime we deleted the subgroup. When the EYT goes ahead will it transfer messages to the main and only group store...

No, it will not.

...or do we have to inform someone of the new destination?

As long as you haven't yet given the go-ahead, you can change the destination yourself.?

Go to the transfer page at?/yahootransfer and click open the transfer you're working on. On the resulting "edit transfer" page, pull down the "Groups.io Group" menu and change your destination to the main group. Having done that, click the blue Update Transfer button and you'll be set.

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:11 PM, Eshin wrote:

We have created a GIO group with a subgroup. Then we initiated an Easy Yahoo Transfer of messages to the subgroup, adding [email protected]?as a Yahoo member, now waiting an an acceptance which can take a week. In the meantime we deleted the subgroup. When the EYT goes ahead will it transfer messages to the main and only group store, or do we have to inform someone of the new destination?

So you deleted the destination (a subgroup) for your transfer.

Have you already transferred from YG to the main group on Groups.io? In other words, are you transferring two groups into one group?

You are supposed to transfer into your main group on Groups.io and THEN, if it makes sense to you, you transfer another YG into your subgroup.

I suggest you figure out where you are in the process.?
See #8 How do I check the transfer status?
on this page of the wiki:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

Once you know, why don't you reply to this thread? Give us the step number, if you have got that far. Or perhaps take a screenshot for us.

Frances
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We have created a GIO group with a subgroup. Then we initiated an Easy Yahoo Transfer of messages to the subgroup, adding [email protected]?as a Yahoo member, now waiting an an acceptance which can take a week. In the meantime we deleted the subgroup. When the EYT goes ahead will it transfer messages to the main and only group store, or do we have to inform someone of the new destination?

Thank you
Eshin

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:45 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Which did you set up, delete or lock? It's one or the other, depending on the checkbox.?

Anyone try this? Or does it only happen overnight, in spite of the 1 hour info in the interface?

Shorter durations tend to be more problematical. If the servers checked minute by minute to see if every hashtag in the groups.io service has timed out, there would be no resources left to do anything else. Give it some time...if set up correctly, it should eventually happen.?

I set it for delete. I will wait!
Thanks.

Frances
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:31 PM, Frances wrote:

When set, tagged topics will automatically be deleted or locked after the specified time period.?I assigned it to existing messages and also wrote new test messages and assigned the hashtag.?But the tagged topics are not deleted nor locked.

Frances -- Which did you set up, delete or lock? It's one or the other, depending on the checkbox.?

Anyone try this? Or does it only happen overnight, in spite of the 1 hour info in the interface?

Shorter durations tend to be more problematical. If the servers checked minute by minute to see if every hashtag in the groups.io service has timed out, there would be no resources left to do anything else. Give it some time...if set up correctly, it should eventually happen.?

Bruce

I tested using a time limiter on hashtags.?I set the hashtag for 1 hour.?
I set the duration in the edit hashtag area. The instruction is:
When set, tagged topics will automatically be deleted or locked after the specified time period.

I assigned it to existing messages and also wrote new test messages and assigned the hashtag.?But the tagged topics are not deleted nor locked.

Anyone try this? Or does it only happen overnight, in spite of the 1 hour info in the interface?

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 08:32 PM, Mark Gurries wrote:

Sent multiple invitations to the [email protected]?to get my group on the queue to transfer over the past month.? Never joined the Yahoo group to start transfer.

You can attempt to send as many invitations as you want, but unless one actually gets sent, nothing will happen.? Go over the instructions at /g/GroupManagersForum/message/24431 to see if you missed/skipped something.

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Sent multiple invitations to the [email protected]?to get my group on the queue to transfer over the past month.? Never joined the Yahoo group to start transfer.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DCC4EVERYONE/

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:05 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Su -- That would certainly work. Consider also setting up a single, all-day event that spans multiple days (as opposed to a recurring event). This will give you a single reminder notification for the first day as desired, with the downside that the start/end times for each day will not appear on the calendar.

Yes, I did think of that but didn't like the imprecision of it. ;-) Probably for a calendar on a e-loop that is a fine solution as well, with the full details in the Description. A slight improvement might be to put the start time on the first day and the end time on the last day. Honestly don't know if that's better or worse, though.

Thanks,
Su

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 07:13 PM, KentonLarson@... wrote:

I recently transferred the WSLCphoto from Yahoogroups to group.io.? I received an ?email from [email protected] indicating that the transfer was complete.? The stats of the transfer indicated that 667 photos were successfully transferred.? I and other list subscribers viewed the photos on the new groups.io list.? Several weeks later the entire Photos Section is missing from the list.?

Kenton -- It seems very unlikely that your photos are actually missing (that only happens on Yahoo). Besides, deleting multiple photo albums is an arduous process that would be very difficult to do by accident.

A basic question:? Are you logged in? You won't be able to see the photos if you're not.

Or perhaps you are logged in, but with an email address that isn't subscribed to this group? See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Content-Is-Missing

If no one?in your group is able to see them, someone may have inadvertently disabled the Photos section. Check that in your Settings, re-enable it, and the photos should still be there.

I strongly suspect one of these things will fix your problem. If not, please come back with a screenshot or two.

Bruce

Just a thought, since at least one person misunderstood the
requirement to have a prepaid annual premium group fee (they signed up
for a monthly payment arrangement, which wont' work).

That person thought paying for it monthly meant the group could be
transferred. That isn't the case. You have to pay one year in advance
for a premium group before your invitation will work.

If you've already done that, then follow the advice from others given
here.

Donald

On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:41:29 -0800, "Metasonix" <synth@...>
wrote:

I am sorry to bother you, but we followed the procedure exactly. I am
owner of both the Yahoo and groups.io groups.

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Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)

Never mind, I found it: "Group Managers Forum".

T. Golding -- what's the name of the Yahoo gmf?

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 04:42 PM, SP4149 wrote:

When I view attachments I find several file types in addition to the more usual image types.? Some of these like video files and pdf files seem to be allowed and occupy more storage than the expected jpg and gif files.

Ken -- There is no provision to inhibit attachments of a certain file type.?

The result is that attachments image storage is several times greater than the E-mail photos albums. Video files can easily consume the "FREE" 1GB
image storage.

You bet. If you want to keep people from doing that you will either have to strip/bounce attachments entirely, or moderate messages containing attachments so you can manually remove offending ones before they post. See Admin>Settings>Message Formatting>Attachments for options.

Removing attachments is cumbersome as you have to delete the message first and then log back into View Attachments.

Within View Attachments, click on the Size column header to find the biggest offenders. Each Subject name tabled here is an active link to the corresponding message. Having clicked that, select Edit Message from the More menu, and you can delete the attachment while still keeping the underlying message (i.e.: click its "Delete" checkbox before saving). When done, click the "Back" button on your browser a couple of times and you'll be back in View Attachments again.

So yeah, that can be a struggle. It might be nice to just be able to just tick a few checkboxes and delete a selection of attachments from the original table display. But with power comes responsibility, and having such a feature would also make it easy to delete something that you really wanted to keep.

The current way forces you to examine each attachment in its original context, and has some merit on that basis...at least from where I'm standing.

Are their any plans to make management of attachments easier or manage upload of video files separate from photo images?

I don't see anything to that effect on , unless it's covered under "Attachment Improvements." It might be more straightforward to filter attachments by size rather than by file type.

Regards,
Bruce