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Hello,

As a group owner, is there anyway of changing the "Display Name" of a member? Some of the imported names from Y! came over blank or with a weird series of letters.

Memo

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Duane is correct. I was not suggesting the option to "Allow Photos in Files" be removed from gio, only that allowing photos to be uploaded to Files is not appropriate for my Groups.

It is important to understand that the "Allow Photos in Files" option checks only the extension of the file to be uploaded and inhibits image-type extension files. So, a .doc file with an embedded image would still be allowed even if that function is not set to "Allow..."

One issue is that there is no thumbnail of a photo uploaded to Files, unlike in Photos. A responsible moderator will monitor what is uploaded to verify content is appropriate and not offensive; not having a thumbnail makes that difficult. Conserving storage space is important for both Basic and Premium Groups so verifying image content is worthwhile.

If an image to be shared is actually a line graphic, a .pdf may be a better choice and smaller-size than a .jpg.

I appreciate the informed and wise help available here!

Larry

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Bruce,

Andrew -- You cannot *add* the [email protected] email address, you
must send an invitation. Delete the existing account and try again.

I think this advice might be hasty. Notice that Andrew said "the accepted email" - I think that indicates use of Invite.

On the other hand, the green "Give Go Ahead To Transfer" should have appeared when the transfer agent accepted the invitation in Step 3. So maybe something is out of sequence.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Or an instance of the suspected bug you reported.

[In fact, I thought Yahoo's direct add function was not working.]

That page was removed many years ago.

However, Yahoo's help on the subject confusingly offered the "Add only to mailing list" checkbox on the invite page as its equivalent / replacement. See the Invite Members screenshot in Step 3.

That terminology leads some people to refer to its use as "adding" the address, even though the function is the same as a regular invitation. The only difference is that with the checkbox the Invitation that is sent doesn't direct the invitee to sign-in / create a Yahoo account.

Shal


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On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:42 AM, Armin Schmidt wrote:

I need the possibility to either override, translate or turn off the "Confirm Your Groups.io Subscription" message

At present, you have no control of this message.? Translation of the site/messages to other languages is an often requested feature, but it will be a huge task.? If you send an invitation, their email address should be confirmed when they accept the invitation.? If you have a paid group, you can Direct Add people, bypassing the confirmation step.

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On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:20 AM, <spudcld@...> wrote:

I started another transfer process, hopefully that won't be stuck.? Is it ok to start a yahoo group to sub group transfer while the main group transfer is still yet to start or in progress??? I have 2 small subgroups that need to go under this currently stuck transfer and I was wondering if it's ok to get those going while that one gets unstuck.? The transfer user exists in the main Yahoo group, so can I start the other 2?

I don't see why not. Hopefully they will go more smoothly.

Bruce

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 09:05 AM, Sandi D. wrote:

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 02:12 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

I believe jpg images should be restricted to the Photos section and that the option to Allow Photos in Files should be disabled.

Larry, I am against this.

I believe Larry was saying that he should set up the options this way for his group, not that it should be removed from the site.

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Bruce replied to my message and said that I should forward the message from yahoo that showed [email protected] had joined my Yahoo group to [email protected] and explain that things seemed stuck.? He mentioned some process that had to be restarted that may have caused a problem.?

I forwarded the message to [email protected].?? Thanks Bruce.? I started another transfer process, hopefully that won't be stuck.? Is it ok to start a yahoo group to sub group transfer while the main group transfer is still yet to start or in progress??? I have 2 small subgroups that need to go under this currently stuck transfer and I was wondering if it's ok to get those going while that one gets unstuck.? The transfer user exists in the main Yahoo group, so can I start the other 2???

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:05 AM, Sandi D. wrote:

To the Mods- it's my understanding that image size restrictions don't apply to images in Folders. Is that the case??

Sandi -- Correct...images uploaded to the Files area are not resized.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 02:12 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

I believe jpg images should be restricted to the Photos section and that the option to Allow Photos in Files should be disabled.

Larry, I am against this. Especially if you are asking that all image files (.ep, .PNG, etc) be restricted.?

Please realize that not every group uses all the features offered by GIO in the same way.

Our group is composed of volunteers of a national non profit. Our central office distributes graphics to us for local use and our various group members need to download and place those full resolution image files into our chapter publications.?

We don't need to actually view the image or roam through photo files, trying to figure out which image is the correct one for our needs. We don't have any images in the Photos area so?IDK if the Photo area has the option to display images by full name? I would be very concerned given we have set a limit to image file sizes that are embedded in posts or might be uploaded by some member in the future to the Photos area.?

To our editors, website managers, social media managers and publicity chairs, the name is the most critical peice of information. It is how we determine which image is the one most suited for publishing in our newsletter, flyers or uploading to our website and social media sites.?

For us it is so much easier/expedient to go into our GIO Publicity Folder and download the named image file needed.

In Folders, we?can see the name of the image file (such as Conference 2020 logo_web.png or Conference 2020 logo_80kb.gif, or January 2020 Contest logo_2mb.jpeg) and download it. We don't need to see the image at all. It makes it easier for me to delete image files no longer needed.?

Looking at an image displayed in a Photo Album doesn't tell the Editors, Web/Social Media Managers and Publicity Chairs the size of the file, the file type or its intended purpose. And as I said, should GIO restrict images from the Folders area, I would need to revisit size restrictions I have in place for the Photo area.?

We are still a young GIO group (YG refugees) and the intention is to use eventaully allow our Event Chairs to use the Photo Area to share their event and speaker images with other chapters. I have limited the size of the Photo area images to the smallest because we are a basic (free) group under storage limitations. Future photos uploaded to that area won't be used in the same way so resolution isn't important.?

I would very much be opposed to disabling the option to upload graphics/images into folders. To us, full resolution image files in Folders serve a quite different purpose than would reduced image files in Photos.?

To the Mods- it's my understanding that image size restrictions don't apply to images in Folders. Is that the case??

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Yes.? That message has not changed since I upgraded groups.io to moderator on YG.? I am so anxious to get this done!!

Claudia

Mine is the same.?? Do you have the "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite." status message at the top of your transfer status page???
Spud

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 09:42 AM, <spudcld@...> wrote:

I got the message from Yahoo that transfer.groups.io had joined.? I made it a moderator as stipulated in the instructions.? It did take a while to get that notification.? But my transfer status still looks like the user has not joined, but it definitely has and i have promoted it to moderator as well.

If you still have it, I would forward the "we have accepted your invitation" EMAIL that you received to [email protected]. There could be a glitch associated with shutting down the process over the past few days that's affecting proper updating of transfer status.

Bruce

I re-read the excellent synopsis of the process from Bruce.? Thanks.? I got the message from Yahoo that transfer.groups.io had joined.? I made it a moderator as stipulated in the instructions.? It did take a while to get that notification.? But my transfer status still looks like the user has not joined, but it definitely has and i have promoted it to moderator as well.?? It's been about 4 hours since I promoted and updated my transfer, but still, I have the top page status message of:?? "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite."? Should it take this long once I've updated the transfer user to a moderator??? Just looking for some guidance.? The process synopsis from Bruce implies it shouldn't.? Just wondering.? Thanks.?

Folks -- I haven't posted this in 7 days so I'm probably overdue to do so again. My apologies for the inevitable dupes in your email inbox.

Appended below please find detailed instructions on how to conduct a transfer using the Easy Group Transfer method.

Additional resources:

Please note that the way you select an existing transfer for further processing has changed. It used to be a pull-down menu, it is now a list of links.

Regards,
Bruce

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Here is the process. It is not fully automated and will take several days.?Do not do anything out of order.

The following instructions are for a full-width desktop/laptop display. This can all be done on mobile too, but it's a lot easier if you don't.

1.1 Create your groups.io group and configure it according to your needs. Help with group settings can be found here:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation?(Note: Each new group must be reviewed to confirm that it meets the?Groups.io Terms of Service. This alone could take up to a day.)
1.2 To use the Easy Group Transfer,?you must upgrade the group to the?Premium Yearly?plan.?You can downgrade to the Basic plan later (i.e.: a year from now), if you want.
To do so, select Admin>Upgrade from the left-side menu bar and click on the blue "View/Change Plan" button. Select "Premium Yearly" (one-time cost of?$220) and make your payment.?
(You have now completed Step 1 of the instructions)

2.1 Return to the bookmarked page (/yahootransfer). Click on the big green button at the bottom that says "Set Up New Transfer."
2.2 Enter the name of your Yahoo group and the name of your groups.io group in their respective boxes. The groups.io group is conveniently selected from a pick-list of those groups that you own. Do NOT enter any domain information (i.e.:?leave off[email protected] or @yahoogroups.co.uk),?just the group name.
2.3 Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page.?
(You have now completed Step 2 of the instructions)

3.1 Go to your YAHOO GROUP (not your groups.io group) and log in. Send a membership invitation to "[email protected]". If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??
3.2 Return to the bookmarked page?(/yahootransfer) once again. Select the group you are transferring from the Existing Transfers at bottom right (click on its link). A new page will come up, with?a status box at the top. If all is well, it?should?say: "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite."?If it?doesn't?say that, the invitation did not go through. Go back to Step 3.1 above and try again.?
(You have now completed Step 3 of the instructions)

4.1 BE PATIENT. Accepting the invitation is often?the longest step in the process, and requires human intervention (solving a CAPTCHA).?
4.2 BE EVEN MORE PATIENT.?Do?not?send additional invitations in an attempt to hurry things up.
4.3 You will eventually?receive an email from groups.io stating?that the Yahoo group invitation has been accepted, and providing you with further instructions.?Continue waiting until you receive this email.
(You have now completed Step 4 of the instructions)

5.1 Return to your YAHOO GROUP and log in. Find the "[email protected]" member record (sorting by join date is the easiest way) and promote it to a Moderator. Instructions for this can be found at?.
5.2 Return to the groups.io page that you bookmarked in #0.4 above one more time. Once again, go to the "Existing Transfers" at bottom right and select the group you're ready to transfer. On the resulting page, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button.?
(You have now completed Step 5 of the instructions)

6.1 BE PATIENT AGAIN. The ability to actually do the transfer depends on how well Yahoo's servers are operating. We all know what that means, right??(If you want to check status, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948).
6.2 You may notice some activity in your new groups.io group, which probably reflects partial completion of the process.?Do not panic.?This is what you wanted to happen!
6.3 When the transfer is done, you will receive an email from groups.io summarizing what it was able to transfer. It will also list whatever things it was?NOT?able to transfer.?Until this email is received, you aren't done yet.
6.4 Rejoice.

Most of us have "been there" with this process before and it all sounds easy in hindsight. Ironically, the same thing that's causing most people to abandon Y!G (server downtime) is exactly the same thing most likely to get in the way of completing the transfer process.?The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?If you procrastinate until things are crashing and burning, delays, incomplete transfers, and other such frustrations can be expected.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Zapp -- They need to confirm they they actually own this email address and want groups.io to send messages there. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

Bruce

We got a new member this morning. Next to her email it says NC (meaning not confirmed). Does this mean her email address is not confirmed and will it affect her in the group.
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 09:15 AM, Andrew Aurbach wrote:

I have added the accepted email to our group as a owner/moderator. But I am not seeing the green "notify/start transfer" button on our existing transfer page. I have completed all of the previous steps successfully. Thoughts?

Andrew -- You cannot add the [email protected] email address, you must send an invitation. Delete the existing account and try again. If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??

[In fact, I thought Yahoo's direct add function was not working.]

Bruce