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One Yahoo Group successfully transferred to groups.io has many
images in albums in the Photos section but also has some jpg
image files stored in the Files section; these are *only* jpg images
with no text.

Many groups have these, and it's a legacy from Yahoo at a time when they limited the size of images in Photos. The way around that limitation was to upload them to Files instead.

As I recall it was requested that a way be developed to move these images into Photos rather than download and reupload so as to not lose ownership. The alternative is to do all that manually and then reassign them to the correct owner if they are still with the group.

Dano

Good query.

I have the samre concern, but it's wider than just .jpg images. Some of my groups have commercial or military instruction manuals which include line drawings and schematics.
In fact, the very purpose of some groups is the sharing of very rare, old technical documents. Some, but not all, are .pdfs

Does the image restriction also apply to images in .pdfs ?

-John

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It only shows the day, not the time, so it won't show a 2 hour delay.
It was not moderated. Like I said, moderation is definitely NOT the issue. Definitely, absolutely not. Like I said, I bumped up the message to groups.io support.
Consider this thread closed. I won't monitor this anymore.?

Carola

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:07 AM, Duane wrote:

A little more detail. <<<

AHHH yes, My bookmark (that returned me to my last GUI view preferences) was Plain Jane.
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I seem to have 6 GIO cookies - It appears that it's controlled by one ("groupsio") the only one I have that updates.
(Although I haven't tested out all display tweaks) It appears that the (well-disguised coded)?crumbs update when I close the site tab (Chrome) or if I change the GUI view (e.g., date newest to oldest, or to feed, or..., etc.) and still remain open. The view appears to be universal (same across all groups.)
It doesn't seem to update when first entering the site.

Maybe Micro has some cookie controls set for this or all visited sites?

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 02:15 PM, Carola F. Berger, PhD, CT wrote:

I checked all settings and admin activities

What does the activity log show for that specific message?? It will show what time it was received and if it was moderated.

Duane
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Thanks Bruce and Frances. Yes, I checked all settings and admin activities - nothing relevant there. I am ABSOLUTELY certain, this has nothing to do with moderation settings. It happened in several groups, for two different emails (I'm webmaster of one association the group.io group is for, administrator of the other), none of them are moderated, no flags are set, no hashtags were applied.

I sent a message to support and we'll see what they say.

Carola

ISIS,

To help with the download speed, DO NOT use WiFi.? WiFi cuts the speed by almost half.? Instead run the correct cable from the WiFi router to your computer.? Now you can download at much higher speeds.

BMaverick

And I assume that you have looked at Activity in Admin in Groups.io?

Frances


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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 02:12 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

I believe jpg images should be restricted to the Photos section and that the option to Allow Photos in Files should be disabled.

Larry -- As you have already mentioned, that can be done via a group setting.

But, I wonder if textual files with embedded photos would also be inhibited by disabling this Allow Photos in Files option.

No.

Inhibition is based entirely on the file extension. If you rename a *.JPG file to *.DOC you can still upload it to Files no matter what the setting is.

What file formats would display in the Files section?

None. All you get is a link to the file.

Regards,
Bruce

One Yahoo Group successfully transferred to groups.io has many images in albums in the Photos section but also has some jpg image files stored in the Files section; these are *only* jpg images with no text. There is an option setting to Allow Photos in Files and currently that is checked. But, the image is not displayed in Files, though the image file is present. If the (blank) image is clicked, the file downloads to my Downloads folder. Thus, allowing jpg images in Files seems inappropriate if the image won't display anyway; in most cases you don't know what the image is.

I believe jpg images should be restricted to the Photos section and that the option to Allow Photos in Files should be disabled. But, I wonder if textual files with embedded photos would also be inhibited by disabling this Allow Photos in Files option. In that case, I wonder if the image would be displayed or if even the text file would be displayed. What file formats would display in the Files section?

Does anyone know? Comments, please.

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 01:51 PM, Carola F. Berger, PhD, CT wrote:

Lena, thanks, but it can't be moderation, I'm moderator of some groups, owner of some others, and the same problem appears for the groups that are explicitly set to unmoderated.?

Carola -- A message can end up moderated even though the group itself is not.?Was a hashtag applied with a moderated flag set? Was the message posted to a moderated topic? Was it sent from an email address that's not actually subscribed to the group?

Bruce

Lena, thanks, but it can't be moderation, I'm moderator of some groups, owner of some others, and the same problem appears for the groups that are explicitly set to unmoderated.?

Derek, that's why I posted here first, from the header analysis I wasn't sure where the problem was, and thus, which support to contact -- I'll contact groups.io support and see what they say.

Thanks,
Carola

This looks like moderation. Simple as that. Carola, are you a moderator or owner on that group?

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:36 AM, S. Kalyanasundaram wrote:

Appreciate knowing how to find the total storage used

Messages (conversations) don't count against storage.? While signed in as Admin, us the left menu to select Admin > Billing (Upgrade for free groups) and you'll see a summary page for the usage.

Duane
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:53 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Wondering on my end if PGOffline even works anymore.

Sometimes.? Depends on how YG is behaving.? I had to try 3 times, over several hours, to get an update for a YG that I'm archiving with PGO.

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:35 PM, T Golding wrote:

Mark's reporting the yahoo problems and what he can and cannot do, so it's not us, it's yahoo.

The "invalid address" error seems uniquely associated with inviting the transfer agent from the wrong provider (groups.io instead of Y!G). See screenshot below, and more to follow.

We can only hope he finds a few more windows of opportunity to help people get moved over here.? It's a good place to read for updates and the latest information on yahoo's meltdown.

is indeed a good place to check for updates of this nature.

As for whether Y!G ever gets running again to the point that transfers again become possible, I'm not sure the good folks at Yahoo care to put any resources into that. Wondering on my end if PGOffline even works anymore.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 07:56 AM, Sandi D. wrote:

As an aside, is there an estimated or "normal" time frame for approval in GMF? They have always posted in the next day digest so far so I am figuring it is probably within 24 hours.?

As a clarification on this point, the approval comes from the administrators of YOUR GROUP, not Groups.io. Therefore, the time needed to approve a message is dependent solely on the participation level of the moderators of that group and has nothing to do with the Groups platform.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:59 PM, Janis wrote:

My groups are already transferred. I was just trying this to see if it would work for others wanting to transfer.? This address I added also already has a Yahoo ID.? Maybe why I was able to promote this other Me.

Janis,

I do not think this is going to be a reliable procedure. I just tried an invite with checking the add to email list only. No success, just the same old error message.

My group also no longer has the capability to change anyone's role.
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I am not able to find out where I find out the amount of storage used up till now in my group. Appreciate knowing how to find the total storage used, including storage used by different segments (conversations/photos/filed etc.).

Carola,

The 127.0.0.2 address would be internal to the server processing the message (in fact any IP starting 127 should stay within the walls of the device), so would appear to be at the groups.io end. There are plenty of reasons for this happening, some better than others. I would strongly recommend posting this to [email protected]?- it may be they have a misconfiguration and this may highlight it. Or you could just have been unlucky and the message was placed in a pending queue for some reason.

It may be worth bearing in mind that however frustrating it may be, e-mail isn't guaranteed instant delivery, it's designed to cope with all kinds of transmission problems. Traditionally mailservers were configured to allow anything between 3-5?days before giving up and returning it as undeliverable!

Regards,

Derek