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Re: Bug Report: Welcome Email issues with Main Group having Subgroups

 

I checked all that, and everywhere, and it appears the content in question is beyond my control (part of groups.io)?


I can't add [email protected] to my group to moderate so we can do the transfer #addmembers

Bigbill
 

It says it's an invalid address


Re: Bug Report: Welcome Email issues with Main Group having Subgroups

 

Thank you, I'll take a look and process that!


Re: Bug Report: Welcome Email issues with Main Group having Subgroups

 

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 08:16 AM, Jon Matcho wrote:

Hello, I have a new subscriber that has identified an issue with the welcome message for a Main group having Subgroups.? See below.? The email addresses and URLs are not in the new formats made after ¡°upgrading¡± to contain subgroups.?

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There are references to ¡®canards¡¯ in place where ¡®members¡¯ should be.? Originally I had changed the main group email from ¡®main¡¯, to ¡®canards¡¯, and finally to ¡®members¡¯ last month.

Jon -- When you rename a group (or subgroup), the corresponding member notices have to be updated to the new name manually.?

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group?for some other impacts that you may not have considered.

Bruce


Bug Report: Welcome Email issues with Main Group having Subgroups

 

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Hello, I have a new subscriber that has identified an issue with the welcome message for a Main group having Subgroups.? See below.? The email addresses and URLs are not in the new formats made after ¡°upgrading¡± to contain subgroups.?

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There are references to ¡®canards¡¯ in place where ¡®members¡¯ should be.? Originally I had changed the main group email from ¡®main¡¯, to ¡®canards¡¯, and finally to ¡®members¡¯ last month.

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Thanks,

Jon

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From: (removed)
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:48 PM
To: [email protected] Group Moderators <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Welcome to the Canard Zone Mailing Lists

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On 11/25/2019 7:42 PM, [email protected] Group Moderators wrote:

Hello,

Welcome to the Canard Zone Mailing Lists, a free, easy-to-use email group service. Please take a moment to review this message.

You can visit your group, start reading messages and posting them here: /g/canards (should be )

The email address for this group is: [email protected] (should be [email protected]). Because our system allows for participants to post via web or email, you can use this email to post new topics.

But most importantly, please add this email address to your safe sender list in your email client¡¯s contacts.

An email discussion forum for builders, flyers, and enthusiasts of all types of canard-type aircraft designed and inspired by Burt Rutan.

You can set your subscription settings here: /g/canards/editsub (should be ). You can opt to receive: all messages in individual emails, collections of messages in a digest, a daily summary, or only special notices.

If you do not wish to belong to this group, you may unsubscribe by sending an email to: [email protected] (should be [email protected])

To see and modify all of your groups, go to

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Regards,

Jon Matcho
Builder/Administrator

Your subscription edit link /g/canards/editsub does not work.? It goes to a group page with a message " Sorry, but that group does not exist."


Re: Members editing and deleting their OWN messages

 

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:56 PM, Sandi D. wrote:
When I compose a message to a group that requires approval, after I hit the green "reply to group" button, I no longer see the message I was composing.
Well no, because you have sent it! However, if you go to the top of the page containing the message to which you replied (etc) there is a banner telling you that your message has been sent and is awaiting moderation.

Chris


Re: Members editing and deleting their OWN messages

Sandi D.
 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 01:58 PM, Duane wrote:
You can edit them, but the edits need to be approved when you're still in the NuM condition.
Hi Duane,

I think I might be missing something.?

When I compose a message to a group that requires approval, after I hit the green "reply to group" button, I no longer see the message I was composing. The first time that happened, I composed a second message thinking a glitch occured. The second message also vanished from my screen after clicking the green button to submit it. I gave up thinking maybe I didn't have permission to post.?

The next day in the digest, my first message was posted and the second was replaced by the comment "duplicate". Which made sense to me. It then dawned on me that's how GIO moderation works.?

So if edits can be made, at what point? Can they be made between the time it's composed and approved? If so, is there a place in my account where I can find my unapproved messages? I stumbled on "drafts" the other day. There's a lot of GIO things I am still learning.?

I have been on other moderated platforms where others cannot see my posts. However, I can see my posts awaiting approval and I can edit them or delete them so wondered if that's what you meant in your reply. If, so can you direct me to the place where my messages awaiting approval hang out??

As an aside, is there an estimated or "normal" time frame for approval in GMF? They have always posted in the next day digest so far so I am figuring it is probably within 24 hours.?


Thanks,?
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Re: Max size of file to upload

 

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 02:23 AM, fernando nocedal wrote:
The precise wording on the message we received from the site was:?"file too large, was not uploaded"
Maybe, as you say, it may have timed out, but I believe when that happens you don't get the "file too large" notice.
I agree. I've never seen that message before. What you usually get is the "maintenance" message that Duane mentioned.

As for why it didn't appear with the larger file...again, I'm stumped.?

We will try using a better connection. I am still puzzled to find out if there is a file size limitation.
Please come back here and report whatever you find out.

Bruce


Re: Bulk folder upload failing - undergoing maintenance

 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 09:25 PM, Andrea wrote:
How do I open a bug report or enhancement request?
Bugs should be reported to [email protected]?

Duane
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Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

I don't know if anyone else is still paying attention to this topic, or if my question might be answered elsewhere, but I finally got my Yahoo Groups data today. I tried repeatedly to download it, but the download got interrupted, apparently because my login expired. Seems it expires within about an hour, and there's no way I can download a couple of GB that fast. I can barely download a couple hundred MB before I get an authentication failure error message. Has anyone figured out a workaround to this?

Otherwise i will try at a friend's house in a couple of days, and hope her connection can download it much faster, provided my data is still there....


Re: Not getting all of my group postings

 

In Apple Mail, for example, if the Sent version of a message you posted ends up in the same folder with the distributed version of that posting, then Mail will sometimes only display one of them. If it displays the one you Sent, then it appears that the distributed version never arrived. In the case of Apple Mail the solution is to keep the Sent message in the Sent folder and the distributed message in your Inbox. Then both are available, the distributed one having group.io headers.?


Re: Max size of file to upload

 

Bruce: thanks for your input.
The precise wording on the message we received from the site was:?"file too large, was not uploaded"
Maybe, as you say, it may have timed out, but I believe when that happens you don't get the "file too large" notice.
We will try using a better connection. I am still puzzled to find out if there is a file size limitation.
Thanks again.

Fernando


Re: Problem with Attachment in Pending Message #bug #question #messages

 

Ann,

But below that was a mini version of the flyer that had the word
"delete" as an apparent option. But clicking on that delete in the
edit mode did nothing.
It did nothing visible in the edit, but had you approved the message at that point I believe the posted message would have had an empty area where the flyer should have appeared. I think you could have seen this result by clicking Save (not Save & Approve) and then re-opening the message.

In order to avoid having an empty spot you could also delete the image from the body of the message.

If you deleted the image in the message body, but didn't delete it as an attachment, then it would have gone out as an attachment, but not showing in the message body.

Shal


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Re: Can't turn off "new users moderated"

 

Joan,

So this is a difference between a group that was transferred from
Yahoo and one that wasn't.
New Users Moderated is the default for any new Groups.io group.

There is a difference in the members, however. The members copied from a Yahoo Group retain the Posting Privilege they had in the Yahoo Group, whereas the members who join the Groups.io group by other means are initially set to a Posting Privilege controlled by the New Users Moderated checkbox.

if the "new members require approval" setting is on, does that
apply to members who join via invite?
As Duane said, the invitation constitutes approval to join the group.

Shal


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Re: Problem with Yahoo Group

 

My groups are already transferred. I was just trying this to see if it would work for others wanting to transfer.? This address I added also already has a Yahoo ID.? Maybe why I was able to promote this other Me.


Re: Problem with Yahoo Group

 

Shai and Mark,?
My invite did not go through yesterday! I tried again and added my other email address to the group by checking the add only to email.list. This time I got an invite and accepted it.? It took me to the website and said it had expired, but the email address was added as a member. It is AOL but already attached to a Yahoo id.

I went to.the membership list and promoted it to moderator.? So Mark and group owners can use this work around to.get access for transfers! ? It works!


Re: Owner Status

 

Steven,


My plan was to migrate the owner email from my Yahoo account to this accounts but, while this account has moderator access (moderation messages show in the inbox for this account)

When logged in to look at the Home button on your group. That will tell you your role in the group. What you hope to see is the Owner badge:

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Also take a look at the upper right corner, and click on your name to check which email address you used to log in:
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Keep in mind that every subscribed email address at Groups.io is a separate account, as far as Groups.io is concerned a separate person.

& the original Yahoo account seems to have no special access.?

So log in with the original Yahoo address. and see what it says. Most likely nothing because the role you had in the Yahoo Group doesn't transfer over when the address is copied into your Groups.io group. The Email Delivery, Posting Privileges, and Join Date do, but not the Role. So transferred addresses always start as a plain member.
Any suggestions as to how to get ownership again & has anyone heard of a similar issue??

Whatever account (email address) you were using when you created the Groups.io group became its owner at that time, and it (or another) must have been owner in order to run the transfer. So that's the place to look first.

I am assuming that I made some sort of mistake & simply do not recall it.

Maybe. About the only mistake you could have made that might remove your Owner role would be to merge your account with that role into another account that does not have that role. Which you might have been tempted to do thinking to consolidate your group memberships under the single account which was your Yahoo owner email.
At this?point I still have the Yahoo account that was the owner of the group prior to the migration (plus the prior owner of the Yahoo group & handed it over on the Yahoo side) which should help verify my identity.?

Your credentials on the Yahoo side mean essentially nothing on the Groups.io side. The only thing they're good for is to enable you to carry out the invite and promote of the transfer agent in your Yahoo Group. Unless you're planning another transfer that's not important now.

Shal
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Re: Problem with Yahoo Group

 

Janis,

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My membership list also works. But it does not show the email address I added via "add only to the email list".??
The invitee's won't become members until they accept the invitation. That's still true when you check that box.


If it did, could use that as an in by owners being able to add and then? promote to moderator.
I don't think it matters whether you check that box when inviting the transfer address - it is already connected to a Yahoo account. So go ahead that way, if it works for you.


Shal
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Re: Owner Status

 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:15 PM, Steven Read wrote:
I had a group moved from Yahoo quite a while ago & it now appears I have lost owner status.?
In groups.io, this usually means you are not logged in, or are logged in with the wrong email address. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Content-Is-Missing

The other possibility is that you demoted yourself, or someone else did. Have the other Owner promote you again (change the Role field in your member record).

If the problem is with your Owner status in the Yahoo group, I cannot help you with that.

Good luck,
Bruce


Re: Bulk folder upload failing - undergoing maintenance

 

Solved it. It was not a timeout (at least only partially), but a restriction without messaging. The files section restricted photos - they must be uploaded to the photos section.

I did not see the photo restriction error though when trying to push a large number of files (I tried 182, 150, 100 ,75), but once I tried to push a smaller number of files (25), I got the photos section restriction error. Pushing all 182 photos in one batch worked just fine when pushing them to a photo album.

My guess is that there is a backend bug or a UI oversight in how the photos section restriction is handled when pushing a large number of files - after a certain quantity, batch size, or _timeout_, the photos restriction error is not displayed in the UI or bubbled up client side. That is why a similar size batch upload worked in another group - the restriction was not in place.

Anyways, problem solved, but kinda frustrating. How do I open a bug report or enhancement request?