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Re: Merge Groups

 

Greg,

Adding information to a forum is the right of anyone in the forum
actually, so I honestly do not follow your logic.
Actually, no.

The TOS requires that you have the right to add anything you post (that it is not trade-secret, or invasive of someone's privacy, or would be claimed as someone else's copyrighted work).

So importing messages in bulk runs the risk that you are importing material which you don't have the right to import. The Easy Yahoo Group Transfer mechanism actually presents a risk in that regard, but Groups.io made a conscious decision that they will rely on the Yahoo Group's admins (owner or mod) running the transfer to make that determination.

If Groups.io ever implements a way to move content from one Groups.io group to another I think it would be a mechanism that verifies the source and destination, probably not an import from an exported file.

Shal


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Re: Making Titles in Digest Live Links #howto #links #question

 

For me, as it turns out, I discovered that the titles are active links using AOL through Firefox on my PC, but not active using AOL through Chrome on my iPad.? So for me, it is the device, not my email, that determines whether the links are active.
Re: Can new owner can old owner?

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 05:39 PM, Charles Roberts wrote:
I doubt if ANY group original owner thinks that's a good policy.
Most think it's a good idea, but they're the ones that trust a co-owner or only add moderators with limited permissions.? There is a big discussion on the beta group about this, but nothing has been decided as yet.

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Re: Members editing and deleting their OWN messages

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 08:12 PM, T Golding wrote:
It looks like it's up to the owner to somehow set what a member can and cannot do?
As far as deleting things, there are no settings.? When someone sends a messages, uploads a file, or adds photos, there's nothing an owner can do to prevent them from deleting it.? They own that item.? There are probably a couple of other things that I forgot on the list.? Owners, or moderators with proper permissions, can delete things belonging to others.

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Re: Members editing and deleting their OWN messages

 

I'm getting confused.? I just went to one group where I'm an owner, one where I'm a mod, one where I'm a member, clicked on the more thingy, on all three groups the option to delete my post was there.? As a mod/owner, it appears I can delete anyone's post.? It looks like it's up to the owner to somehow set what a member can and cannot do?? Where might I find those settings?? this is a very complicated platform for someone who's not techy, and doesn't want to be.

Terri
Re: how to enable subscribers to send messages without approval

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 06:17 PM, Ann Ward Purcell wrote:
when I am the one posting, I definitely post from my very only email address.
Does the post that you're replying to have a hashtag?? Those can be set to make a topic moderated.

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Re: groups.io error

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On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 09:32 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:

Has anyone started receiving the following error? I'm running the latest update of Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64 (KB4524101)

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I have received two of these errors when transmitting a post via e-mail, but when I retransmit the same message (I forward it to the same address) it goes through without error.

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groups.io rejected your message to the following email addresses:

[email protected] ([email protected])
Your message couldn't be delivered. The error returned by the email server outside Office 365 suggests that the Internet's directory listing for the recipient's email domain (the text after the "@" symbol in the recipient's email address) doesn't exist or isn't set up correctly. A distinct and correct listing for the recipient's domain must exist to determine where to send the message. This can only be fixed by the recipient's email admin. To fix the problem, contact the recipient by some other means (by phone, for example) and give them the error message below to give to their email admin to fix.

For Email Admins
When Office 365 tried to send the message outside of Office 365 the external email server returned the error below. This error was reported by an email server outside Office 365 and it indicates that the Domain Name System (DNS) mail exchanger (MX) record or A record for the recipient's domain doesn't exist or isn't set up correctly. To fix this contact the recipient's email admin and ask them to work with their domain registrar (or Web host provider) to properly set up a correct MX and A record for their domain.

Only the recipient's email admin can fix this. Unfortunately, Office 365 support won't be able to help with these kinds of externally reported errors.

groups.io gave this error:
Remote server returned invalid or missing DNS MX or A record for recipient domain -> 500 Invalid request, no reverse DNS for 40.92.41.71

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?Ken,

Yes, there have been several reports of outlook 365 email server Reverse DNS issues recently.

Do a search on "Reverse DNS" gets some of them.
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Re: Members editing and deleting their OWN messages

 

Your answer makes sense, and something I had not considered. I had, in fact, sent the test msg from my Owner account and therefore it made sense I could not delete it from my ¡®member¡¯ account. ?I just sent another test message from my ¡®member¡¯ account, but... Sadly, I still cannot delete. Very odd. Your explanation makes absolute sense, and yet I am experiencing this non-sensical behavior.

Further thoughts?
Thanks!
Tina
groups.io error

 

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Has anyone started receiving the following error? I'm running the latest update of Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64 (KB4524101)

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I have received two of these errors when transmitting a post via e-mail, but when I retransmit the same message (I forward it to the same address) it goes through without error.

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groups.io rejected your message to the following email addresses:

[email protected] ([email protected])
Your message couldn't be delivered. The error returned by the email server outside Office 365 suggests that the Internet's directory listing for the recipient's email domain (the text after the "@" symbol in the recipient's email address) doesn't exist or isn't set up correctly. A distinct and correct listing for the recipient's domain must exist to determine where to send the message. This can only be fixed by the recipient's email admin. To fix the problem, contact the recipient by some other means (by phone, for example) and give them the error message below to give to their email admin to fix.

For Email Admins
When Office 365 tried to send the message outside of Office 365 the external email server returned the error below. This error was reported by an email server outside Office 365 and it indicates that the Domain Name System (DNS) mail exchanger (MX) record or A record for the recipient's domain doesn't exist or isn't set up correctly. To fix this contact the recipient's email admin and ask them to work with their domain registrar (or Web host provider) to properly set up a correct MX and A record for their domain.

Only the recipient's email admin can fix this. Unfortunately, Office 365 support won't be able to help with these kinds of externally reported errors.

groups.io gave this error:
Remote server returned invalid or missing DNS MX or A record for recipient domain -> 500 Invalid request, no reverse DNS for 40.92.41.71

Ken

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Re: how to enable subscribers to send messages without approval

 

Ann, go to the Spam Contol settings in your admin settings.? Nothing should be checked except restricted group.? If everything else is unchecked, to the best of my? knowledge, the group messages should not be moderated.? Then go to the member tab under your admin settings and click on your name and look at your settings.? If you don't have your messages moderated, and you don't have group messages moderated, then something's wrong.? I think.? If I'm wrong, one of the mods will correct me. That's how I have my groups set up and nobody's messages are modded.

Terri
how to enable subscribers to send messages without approval

 

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I am new at this and couldn¡¯t figure out how to add a response to the people who responded to my inquiry.? Hopefully this message will get to the right place.

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Responders:? Thank you for your suggestions.? I appreciate the time everyone put into trying to help me solve my problem.

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Re ¡°You say: ¡®Sometimes, members can send messages to each other, no problem.¡¯? Is it possible you have set them to moderate ¨C ¡®new users moderated¡¯?¡±

Answer: ?No, I have not selected that setting.

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Re? ¡°Or more likely, your members are not posting from their usual email addresses. ¡°?

Answer:? I have not checked that; but when I am the one posting, I definitely post from my very only email address.? And three of my own messages have prompted a request to approve the message.

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Re ¡°Have you checked in the Admin section??¡°

Answer:? Definitely; multiple times.? I have looked at every setting and have found nothing that looks like it needs a change.

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Re ¡°And check also Admin, Activity.? Message Activity shows you whether email addresses were used that are not registered with Groups.io.¡±

Answer:? No, I didn¡¯t check that, but I know my own email address is registered with Groups.io, which suggests that, at least as to my own messages, that is not the issue.? I certainly will check on that issue as to other people¡¯s messages.

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Re ¡°The setting so far considered has been the Group Moderation Setting, but it is possible that individual members have Posting Privileges that override the group setting.?? I suggest that you use the Activity Log to identify a member who submitted a post that was put in the moderation queue. Then go your your Members List and find that person's entry in it; click anywhere on their entry other than the check box. This will take you to that person's "personal" page; scroll down to the bottom of the page just above the Save tab and other functions, and your will find a section called Posting Privileges. The 3rd, 4th, 6th or 7th options will one way or another result in that members having posts held for moderation, sometimes temporarily until they have submitted a predetermined number of posts. ¡°

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Answer:? I will double-check this, but I certainly did not intentionally give any members posting privileges that override the group setting.? I just set up this group maybe a month ago, and I have not set any settings differently for some members from how I set them for other members.

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Re ¡°You are the owner of the group; are you the sole moderator?¡±

Answer:? Yep; I am it.?

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Re ¡°Frances; you suggested that members might be sending from a "wrong" email address, but I don't see how that could be the case unless Allow Non Subscribers to Post has been checked,¡±

Answer:?? Good point.? But I definitely did not check that option.

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Re: ¡°I would also suggest revisiting all your Settings just in case something has been checked by accident.¡±

Answer:? I have done that, multiple times.? I can do it again; but I was hoping someone would have a light-bulb moment about some setting that is not intuitively obvious that can affect this issue.

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Thank you again for everyone¡¯s thoughts and suggestions.? I suspect I will have my own light bulb moment one of these days.

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Ann

Re: Customization Options? #customize #links

 

Ann,

We are just trying to determine if we have other options for
relocation to a different area, what they might be, ...
You could put them in a wiki page.
You could put them in a downloadable file.
You could put them in your group's home page Description
You could put them in your group's guidelines
You could put them in a Topic which you pin to your Topics list

which is best ...
That, I think, may depend on how your group uses the links.

Most of those have the disadvantage that you have to create a presentation for the links (text description, organization) and format them as clickable links manually. And that presentation is static, requiring manual maintenance. That is, to add a new link someone has to decide where it goes in the presentation and put it in the proper place.

And it means you don't get the benefits of allowing users to sort the list of links based on columns, as one can in the Database.

and/or customization of the default categories.
Other than the sections which you can enable and disable through your group's Settings page (and the Guidelines which you can enable through defining that type of Member Notice), no. The buttons in the left column can't be customized or rearranged by group admins.

Shal


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Re: Can new owner can old owner?

 

Thanks for the info...such that it is.? I doubt if ANY group original owner thinks that's a good policy.
Chuck
Re: Valid Email ID called INVALID?

 

Bob,

* 258630718@... <mailto:258630718@...>: Invalid email address

It is a valid site () and a valid ID as I am email with them..
That domain is blocked by Groups.io.


Shal


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Re: Member approval to group

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 10:22 PM, Jim Pruitt wrote:
Were they perhaps a previous member that got a "marked as spam" message and removed from the group?
Bicka; Jim makes a very good point; did the email say the person had joined or rejoined your group? I take it you still have that email...

Chris
Re: Valid Email ID called INVALID?

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 05:22 PM, Bob Krampetz wrote:

The following email addresses had errors:

I tried? with and without his name, with and without the < >? arrows..
And it keeps giving me that Invalid email address,? ?It is a valid site ()
and a valid ID as I am email with them..
Numbered addresses are not allowed on groups.io. This domain provides "throwaway" email addresses of the kind often used by spammers.?

See?

Bruce
Re: Recent Messages

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 05:22 PM, Bob Krampetz wrote:
How do I get to see the most recent messages? I'm getting messages from 2014 rather than now.
Bob -- What Frances said...click the Date link at upper right to invert the sort order.

A search on my own subject is not finding it even 15 minutes after sending..
All GMF messages are moderated, so that has to happen first. Then to be found by the search engine, each message has to be indexed. The indexing job runs on a separate machine and sometimes lags behind, especially if there is a lot of server load (like when groups are being transferred).

Bruce
Re: Recent Messages

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 05:22 PM, Bob Krampetz wrote:

A search on my own subject is not finding it even 15 minutes after sending..
Bob, this is a moderated peer-to-peer group. I guess the other volunteer moderators are busy at this point.

I just approved (moderated) your messages and I see inadvertently I approved a duplicate.

You sent the same message twice - at 4:22 and at 4:25. This email about the delay was sent at 4:34 (All ET).

I don't have an answer for you about the email address but is it possible it is spammy looking to the system? Hopefully someone will answer your query about the invite mechanism.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/24664

Frances


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Re: Yahoo Transfer #transfer

Dakotta Alex
 

Lucky you : ) still trying here : )


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:22 PM Andrew Aurbach <andrew.aurbach@...> wrote:
Just an update, I was able to send the invite later today from the Yahoo dashboard, so now am just awaiting the io team to accept the invite. I suspect all will proceed smoothly from here. Thanks to all who chipped in advice.

Andrew

Re: Recent Messages

 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 05:22 PM, Bob Krampetz wrote:
How do I get to see the most recent messages???? I'm getting messages from 2014? rather than now.

A search on my own subject is not finding it even 15 minutes after sending..

Online, go to Date at the top of the search results (or indeed, message archive) and click on the small arrow to reverse the date order. You can also change from relevance ranking to date ranking or vice-versa.

Frances
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