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Re: After transfer from yahoo, hundreds of emails listed in "direct add" in each subgroup
#transfer
#subgroups
#direct
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 05:59 PM, E Casterline wrote:
The people listed in subgroup A in the "Direct Add" section are already in the Main group (I spot-checked) and in subgroup B (also spot-checked) -- and I don't want to add them to subgroup A -- they mysteriously appeared in the "Direct Add" section of subgroup A during the transfer. If it doesn't automatically add people in the parent group to the subgroup, why does it say "Directly add members of the parent group to this subgroup" at the top?Because that's all you CAN do. Let me see if I can walk you through it. -- You did a transfer from a Yahoo group into subgroup A. During that transfer, every individual added to subgroup A was also added to the parent group. -- Then you did a transfer from another Yahoo group into subgroup B. The same thing happened to the parent group as above. -- So now the parent group contains all members that were in EITHER of the two originating groups. Follow me so far? As for the pick-list, there is nothing mysterious about it. When you open up Direct Add in a subgroup, you are presented with a list of people in the parent group that you can add. This will be a long list, for reasons already stated. To add someone to the subgroup, you tick the checkbox next to his name and click the "Add Members" button. You cannot add anyone to the subgroup who isn't on this list. If you want to do that, you have to add them to the parent group first. At that point they will appear on the list and you can add them to the subgroup, too. If your parent group and its subgroups do not follow this kind of natural relationship, jumping through these hoops can be very burdensome. That's why we recommend people carefully read the "why use a subgroup" wiki entry I linked previously before they do their transfers, lest they end up having problems with member management. Hope this helps, Bruce |
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Re: After transfer from yahoo, hundreds of emails listed in "direct add" in each subgroup
#transfer
#subgroups
#direct
Bruce, I think you are misunderstanding my issue, sorry if I wasn't clear -- I super appreciate your taking the time to answer, so I hope you'll take another look. To try to clarify: I'm in the subgroup (let's call it subgroup A). The people listed in subgroup A in the "Direct Add" section are already in the Main group (I spot-checked) and in subgroup B (also spot-checked) -- and I don't want to add them to subgroup A -- they mysteriously appeared in the "Direct Add" section of subgroup A during the transfer.
If it doesn't automatically add people in the parent group to the subgroup, why does it say "Directly add members of the parent group to this subgroup" at the top? |
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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group
Charles: I switched from a Mac (at home) to a PC for public use at my local library, and, using Internet Explorer, was finally able to send the "invitation" out to [email protected] Where it goes from here is anybody's guess, but at least the pawn has advanced one small (but important) step forward . . .
On Friday, November 22, 2019, 5:17:58 PM EST, CStevenson/Geotrees.Com <anjinsan@...> wrote:
Friday, November 22nd, 2019 4:08 PM, DC Time, First Try 4:33 PM, DC Time, Second Try 5:08 PM, DC Time, Third Try (Responding to Doug Boulton's message to the group at 2:05 PM today) I'm having the same problem, Doug, and await any explanation or correction that Groups.Io has to offer.? Haven't seen anything on it so far. Has anyone else had this problem?? Does anyone know what's going on? Charles Stevenson Northern virginia anjinsan AT geotrees com |
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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 05:17 PM, CStevenson/Geotrees.Com wrote:
Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what's going on?If we're talking about the "error while loading the content" problem, it's a bug in Yahoo Groups, not groups.io ... and it happens A LOT. The answer is what Shal said (/g/GroupManagersForum/message/24570). Keep trying, refreshing the page beforehand, or even try a different browser. Oh and by the way, you must be an Owner of the Yahoo group, or a Moderator with "promote" permissions. If you're not, find someone who is. Good luck, Bruce |
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Re: Calendar query for recurring events
There are 84 'Last Weekday of Month' each year (7x12) that can not be referenced, e.g. Last Friday of the Month
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see "Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events" 2018-06-25 We should bring it up again in 2020 on the beta (suggestion) group and hopefully this oversight will be addressed... On Nov 22, 2019, at 6:29 AM, Rob Marston via Groups.Io <rcmarston@...> wrote: |
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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group
Friday, November 22nd, 2019
4:08 PM, DC Time, First Try 4:33 PM, DC Time, Second Try 5:08 PM, DC Time, Third Try (Responding to Doug Boulton's message to the group at 2:05 PM today) I'm having the same problem, Doug, and await any explanation or correction that Groups.Io has to offer. Haven't seen anything on it so far. Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what's going on? Charles Stevenson Northern virginia anjinsan AT geotrees com |
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:38 AM, Ann Wild wrote:
Is it possible to make the message titles live so that if you click in the title, it takes you down to the specific message within the digest itself?Ann -- The Full Featured Digest does exactly that, if viewed using webmail in a browser. I cannot predict what might happen in an email client, but I suspect it could vary depending on the client [mail reader software] and its configuration. Perhaps if you tell us what client you are using someone here can help you with that. Bruce |
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Re: Admin - Members - Edit e-mail Address
#changememberemail
#membersemail
#memberemail
#editmemberemail
#changeemail
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:27 AM, Ann Wild wrote:
I think another way to solve this is to delete the member's membership and then Direct Add that person as a new member with the new email address. ? I think I have done this, and it worked.Ann -- Good point...IF ownership of content (messages, photos, etc) is not an issue. If it's important to maintain ownership of content currently held under both email addresses the only good path forward is to merge them. Regards, Bruce |
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Re: Members editing and deleting their OWN messages
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:45 PM, Christina Ferrigno wrote:
Any ideas why this may be occurring?As a member, you must be logged in with the account/email you used to send the message.? As an owner, you can delete any message. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Can I start a new Topic and move several subscriber posts to it?
John, no Groups.io staff on this group. Just peer-to-peer help.
If you wish to suggest this, please do it on Beta when things calm down.? I have to say that I have moved messages, and it works. As Bruce said, there are some downsides.? /g/GroupManagersForum/message/24257 Here are the instructions for merging threads:? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads And for splitting threads: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Split-Threads Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Re: Can I start a new Topic and move several subscriber posts to it?
It is admitted that moving a post is a tedious thing.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to make it a simple process? Maybe, technically, it is quite a difficult development but I am sure it would be appreciated by many owners and moderators if there was a simple command/process to move posts. PLEASE consider it soon. Regards John |
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Members editing and deleting their OWN messages
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Re: Messages Display Default
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:31 PM, Art_in_NJ wrote:
my inclination is to just double-click on the desired groupYou actually only need a single click. That page used to catch me regularly, but I finally realized I could use the column on the right for Messages view.? Makes sense that you could do both since it's an overview.? Now all you need to do is teach your finger not to click on the group name. ;>) Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Mbox imports
Mark just posted this on the API subgroup of beta.? Since it's not a group that many would pay attention to (52 members), I thought I should repost it here for clarification of some previous messages:
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:07 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote: If you can convert the messages into an mbox format, I can import them into your group, along with your users, like we do with Yahoo groups. For that, I ask that you pre-pay for a year of premium service for your group. Contact me off list if/when you're ready to go ahead with that.Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Messages Display Default
Thanks, Duane ...? That does the trick ... but since my groups (only 2) are already displayed on the screen of the overview page, my inclination is to just double-click on the desired group instead of going through the extra step of using the "Your Groups" drop-down.? Oh, well ...
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Re: After transfer from yahoo, hundreds of emails listed in "direct add" in each subgroup
#transfer
#subgroups
#direct
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:32 PM, Edith Casterline wrote:
Questions:Parent groups members are NOT automatically added to subgroups. The people already there now are those that were added via the transfer operation. 2. Is there a way to clear all these emails out of the "Direct Add" so that it's blank and I can directly add people myself? (Perhaps that'll be fixed by question 1...)No. All members of a subgroup must be members of the parent group, too. As a corollary to this, there is no way to Direct Add someone from outside your group directly into a subgroup. You have to Direct Add them to the parent group first...after that's completed, you can then Direct Add them to the subgroup.? You can, however, Invite someone directly to a subgroup. When that person accepts the invitation, he will automatically be added to BOTH the primary group and the subgroup. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup Bruce |
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Re: [SOLVED]Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group
Doug, I've actually had and solved this problem. Yahoo sent out a message several months ago that some people ignored. It stated that if you owned or moderated a group with an ID other than *@yahoo.com, many of your privileges would soon be disabled. At that I was owning the group with "marks@..." which was a Yahoo service, but slightly different mail agent.? AT&T validates the login password, too. Fearing future difficulties (but not anticipating the shutdown), I created a second ID, lvmarks2000@.... I subscribed it. Then with my original ID, I made the second ID also a moderator. Never touched the second ID for months. It was just insurance. Then, when I needed to do a PG Offline download, the original ID wouldn't work. BUT THE SECOND ONE DID! There is no reason to think that this same procedure won't work for you: 1) Create a real, native Yahoo ID 2) Give it Moderator privileges using your original ID 3) Give that ID to GIO and ask them to try again. BTW, the founder of GIO seems to be an honorable person. If the group doesn't upload, I have every reason to believe that he will refund your money. Larry |
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Re: Trouble opening files here that do open in Yahoo
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOh ¡ª That is a distinction I hadn¡¯t thought of - opening in the browser vs. having to download. I¡¯ll check that too. Thanks for bringing that up.On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:07 PM, Susan B wrote: there are many files she can open at yahoo but when she tries at groups io they won¡¯t open. And we can¡¯t figure out why.The only files on GIO that may open in the browser are PDF.? All others require either a download or file extension association with a program on her computer. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group
Doug,
That's been a common Yahoo error ever since the 2013 Neo redesign. The "browser ritual" might help: Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Michael Pavan
Geotrees.Com
Duane
Frances
John Prescott
Christina Ferrigno
Art_in_NJ
Laurence Marks
Susan B
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