On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:47 AM, ray_r.rm wrote:

Several posts have been made to a Topic that is not appropriate?
Can I start a new Topic and then move those posts to it?

Yes, but it can be a bit tedious, so you wouldn't want to do it too often.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/message/14090

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Several posts have been made to a Topic that is not appropriate?
Can I start a new Topic and then move those posts to it?
Thanks, Richard

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:33 AM, Eva Marie Mitchell wrote:

That Yahoo Group is already a part of another transfer.

You'll need to remove the previous (completed) transfer from the list.? If you don't see it, then you need to find the person that did the transfer and have them remove it.

Support is intended for bug reports (or possibly tech problems) and there's a serious backlog right now.? General questions about operation are deflected to GMF or Group_Help which are user-to-user groups.

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On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 09:33 AM, Eva Marie Mitchell wrote:

I cannot start a new transfer.. I get this error message:
That Yahoo Group is already a part of another transfer.
I've written Mark directly with no answer.? ?Is there another number for "support"?

Eva -- You have to delete the transfer that is already completed before you can transfer that group again.?

Bruce

I cannot start a new transfer.. I get this error message:
That Yahoo Group is already a part of another transfer.
I've written Mark directly with no answer.? ?Is there another number for "support"?
I'm fine with deleting the subgroup if I could get the information into the main group.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:54 AM, Sandi D. wrote:

Does that work only for their transferred group? (Not needing a password to log into the group)

Sandi/Suzanne -- You can participate in multiple groups without ever creating a password if you don't want to. However, it is highly recommended that you create a password anyway, so you can still log in without access to your email.

I may be be wrong but I thought I was asked to establish a password to log into the main GIO website when I wanted to create a group or join a different group.

If while logged out, you click "Join This Group" and enter an email address already known to groups.io, it will ask you to log in under that email address before proceeding. But the log in dialog never forces you to establish a password.

Bruce

Does that work only for their transferred group? (Not needing a password to log into the group)

I may be be wrong but I thought I was asked to establish a password to log into the main GIO website when I wanted to create a group or join a different group.

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The Directory is an index of subscriber profiles. Each subscriber "owns" their own profile, and if they choose not to create one (or keep it hidden), that's their prerogative.

If you -- as a group Owner -- want every subscriber to "see" every other subscriber you have to share the Member List (Privacy>Members Visible).

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I gather since the members are also brand new to GIO, they either haven't logged into the your group's web interface or haven't updated the directory profile in your group or haven't selected the setting that allows their entered information it to be visible to your other group members.?

One of the monthly notices I set up for our group was explaining the Member Directory feature. I set up a wiki with screen shots to walk them through it. Even so, only about 5% have actually logged into our group and made the required changes.?

I do appreciate that owners and mods can view the entire directory regardless, but it does create a disadvantage for members.?
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 07:45 AM, Lee Jackson wrote:

That's the case, although not with widget parts. So you're pretty much saying I'm stuck, then. There's no way to go back and do a topic search & replace for the # character prior to the import date, or something else just as useful?

Lee -- If you click on an offending hashtag, it will bring up all topics having that hashtag, so you can edit the affected subject lines (click the down arrow).?

There is no way to search on the subject line only while ignoring the message body.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:45 PM, Lee Jackson wrote:

So you're pretty much saying I'm stuck, then.

Not necessarily. Go to your hashtags and work through them; some may indeed relate to part numbers and the like, so leave them at the moment. Identify the others that clearly aren't part numbers (#Wow for example) and delete them. Once that's done you can perhaps work your way through the "part numbers" and slowly get rid of them; is there any real value in a message years ago about a specific part number or something equally not deserving of a hashtag?

Before you start it might be worth considering preventing your members from creating hashtags(if you haven't done tis already) so that they can only use ones that you are happy with and thus have set up yourself. Go to Admin > Settings and scroll down to Message Policies; set Hashtag Permissions to something other than Messages can ge tagged with new hashtags. Don't forget to save the change... If you don't stop members creating new and bizarre hashtags they will probably grow in number faster than you can get rid of them again.

Chris

I can verify that the monthly notice does go out for our group. We are a free basic group. We set two up on Oct 27, 28 and both went out to our group on Nov 1st.?
I have no explanation as to why yours isn't going out.?
The type is "monthly reminder" and the blue "Active" button is displayed.?

If I open the message fields I see "Monthly Reminder" in the first drop down field, followed by "Name" "Subject", a check mark in the "Active Message" box and then the actual message body.

Perhaps go back into your message fields and click the update link. Or delete it and start over.

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That's the case, although not with widget parts. So you're pretty much saying I'm stuck, then. There's no way to go back and do a topic search & replace for the # character prior to the import date, or something else just as useful?

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I agree it seems the "Pending Subscription" Member Notice feature was not fully thought through.

Some believe it was intended only to PROVIDE Additional Information TO applicants for Subscription, and given that's all it REALLY does they may be right...

Others use it to REQUEST Additional Information FROM applicants - I change its Subject to: "Additional Information Required".

Currently there is no way to automatically put applicants 'on hold' until they answer such a request.
Consequently, it is the first step in the workaround to do so.

Your suggestion that the "View Pending Member" link be attached to a "Pending Subscription" Member Notice reply is a good one.

Perhaps next year after the Great YG Migration (and probably the Groups.io app is rolled out), it can be one of several excellent feature requests to be brought up again and instituted.

I believe a better way to vet would-be subscribers should be second only to an Absentee Owner Succession feature and/or a restructuring Set Moderator Privileges (to prevent a Founder/Original Owner being deposed).

Hang in there, Groups.io DOES work on improving itself...

On 19 Nov 2019 08:23, Shal Farley wrote:

Jim wrote:,

I am curious why the pending subscription response does not include
the link to the approval page for that member.

Because it is simply a reply from the applicant's email interface direct to the group's +owner address.

That is true, but it would be nice (and thus it's an RFE) if one could add such a link (or similarly helpful information) in the pending notice, so that when users press "reply" and the notice is included in the reply, it's there for the moderator to click. Of course, not all members who reply include the original message in their reply.

Samuel

Jim,

Shal, you lost me. It is titled a monthly reminder.

D'oh.

So it is. I completely forgot that one had been added to the roster of Member Notices. I thought I had an example of every type in my test group, but I was missing that one.

So I guess I don't see what isn't there, for the wrong definition of "there". (Should have looked in the Drop-list for New Notice).

Odd.

That one sorts out of order if you click on the Type column. I wonder if that is a clue to anything. I guess I'll find out in a couple weeks.

Shal


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Jim,

I am curious why the pending subscription response does not include
the link to the approval page for that member.

Because it is simply a reply from the applicant's email interface direct to the group's +owner address.

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On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:12 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Jim,

> Why call it a monthly notice if it is not sent out each month?

Why call what a Monthly Notice?

"You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear."
-- Rock man, from The Point!

Shal

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Shal,? you lost me.? It is titled a monthly reminder.? It says it is sent out monthly so what is it that I am seeing that is not there?? What I am hearing is that the monthly reminder does not go out automatically every month like the description implies ( "Message sent to the group every month" ).? Am I wrong?

Jim

Peter,

I then previewed it using the eyeball icon. Everything looked fine
but when I sent a message out the formatting was wrong.
Does Groups.io add certain parameters I should be aware of?

Most likely the problem is that the formatted text editor strips many HTML tags and parameters when you save the text. I believe that is the same for the Sig text as well as message bodies, wiki pages, and elsewhere.

I don't know of any specific documentation about it though.

Shal


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