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Re: Messages to aplus.net domains not working

 

Gilbert Colville wrote:
"As I recall, carrierzone.com is an outfit that organizations hire to do spam filtering.? You may have an account with carrierzone where your messages are being held in quarantine."

In quarantine or just dumped. If they've concluded it's spam, they could simply dump it.

It feels like [GMF} is getting at least 100 messages per day. My provider has rated it as spam a couple of times and notified Groups.io. Carrierzone could simply be dumping it.

I wonder if Groups.io should add a feature to automatically put everyone in digests when the message traffic gets this high.

Larry


Re: Transfer problem #transfer

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:56 PM, Sandie Mullin wrote:
I paid for the premium pricing so that I could transfer my Yahoo Group to Groups.io. When attempting to do begin the transfer, my Groups.io group name did not appear in the drop down menu. (Screen shot attached). I'm getting the message that we need to upgrade to premium, which we have already done. Our Groups.io billing tab reflects that we have paid for the upgrade as well. Has anyone had this problem and how can I resolve?? ?Thank you.
Sandie,

It looks like everything is in order, so you need to send an email to [email protected]?to get this resolved.

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Re: Second group to move

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:59 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:
How do I proceed? I have one group that has been converted. There is another one that has not been converted. Both use a variant of what would be the domain name so it will have to change.
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NAIAandNAIATrustMembers and NAIAandNAIATrustBoard would have a domain of NAIAandNAIATrust with Members and Board being the sub-domains. So, one needs to change its name and then become a sub and the other must start the entire conversion process.
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Thanks for talking me through this far.
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Eric
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So, have you decided to change the name of your main group??
Here's how: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group

So do that first - carefully, as the instructions say.

Since you have a group, you can create your subgroup after the name change.?
Easy to do.?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups
Be careful with your settings.?

Then request your transfer. Free if your first group is a premium group.
Make sure you pick the RIGHT group to transfer into the subgroup. Not into the main group.?
(Others have made that mistake and it is hard to untangle.)

If someone is only in your Yahoo Group and not in you main Groups.io group, the person will be put in both.

Start and read all the instructions!

Frances


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Re: How can I add an image to show in the groups list?

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:00 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
When I look at my list of groups, I see most groups have no image, but this group and one other (Rohde and Schwarz) has an image - see attached. How do I add an image to groups that I am the owner of?
Go to Admin, Settings, Cover Photo.?
Scroll down. Add an icon.

Frances
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How can I add an image to show in the groups list?

David Kirkby
 

When I look at my list of groups, I see most groups have no image, but this group and one other (Rohde and Schwarz) has an image - see attached. How do I add an image to groups that I am the owner of?

Dave


Re: Second group to move

Eric Johnson
 

I'm sending this again as I got no answer and it seems to have gotten lost.

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On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 8:29 AM, Eric Johnson
<Toller67@...> wrote:
How do I proceed? I have one group that has been converted. There is another one that has not been converted. Both use a variant of what would be the domain name so it will have to change.
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NAIAandNAIATrustMembers and NAIAandNAIATrustBoard would have a domain of NAIAandNAIATrust with Members and Board being the sub-domains. So, one needs to change its name and then become a sub and the other must start the entire conversion process.
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Thanks for talking me through this far.
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Eric
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Re: Email column in database table #database

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 08:28 PM, Suzanne H wrote:
What is the best type for an email column in a database table?
And Bruce responded:
Use a data type of "Link" and enter the URL as "mailto: myaddress @ domain.net" (without the quotes or spaces).
Will it be clickable?
If you do everything as I suggest above, a mouseclick on the link should open your default email client and open its message editor with the target address pre-populated in the To: field.

Bruce

If you want to get fancy, you can pre-populate the email Subject and/or Body, too. Here's an example:
mailto:joe@...&subject="Important message from My Group"&body="Here is an important message for you today. Please respond promptly."

Most mail agents will leave the insertion point right after the pre-populated body text, although the user can change both the subject and body text.



Transfer problem #transfer

Sandie Mullin
 

I paid for the premium pricing so that I could transfer my Yahoo Group to Groups.io. When attempting to do begin the transfer, my Groups.io group name did not appear in the drop down menu. (Screen shot attached). I'm getting the message that we need to upgrade to premium, which we have already done. Our Groups.io billing tab reflects that we have paid for the upgrade as well. Has anyone had this problem and how can I resolve?? ?Thank you.


Re: Messages to aplus.net domains not working

 

As I recall, carrierzone.com is an outfit that organizations hire to do spam filtering. You may have an account with carrierzone where your messages are being held in quarantine.

On Nov 16, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Rob McMillin <rlm@...> wrote:

Thanks, Larry. That makes some sense. I will try banging on tech support again Monday, when their A-grade personnel are in place.


Re: Messages to aplus.net domains not working

 
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On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 08:51 PM, Rob McMillin wrote:
8:13 pm (what timezone?)
You should see dates and times based on what you have for your Account under Preferences, /account?page=prefs

Duane
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Re: Messages to aplus.net domains not working

 

Thanks, Larry. That makes some sense. I will try banging on tech support again Monday, when their A-grade personnel are in place.


Re: (not) announcement-group

 

The anounce list is only for mods to post. So I'm still confused by your question..

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our This is also our libsyn page as well.

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Re: How much time does it take to manage a group?

Ken KM4NFQ
 

Thank you for your reply, Dano.
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I am very glad that I asked this question on this group because I am getting some really good replies. Everyone has been very helpful. I really appreciate it. I have a lot to learn, and it is going to take some time to get the hang of it. It is nice to know that there is a Wiki, and experienced help from this group if I get in too far over my head.
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Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"


Re: fixed width line in footer forces sideways scrolling

 

Thanks, Donald, for the useful link. I definitely am not coming from the perspective of a lawyer, but of an advocate for my community, so rather than getting heavy-handed about the law, I'm more interested in the spirit of the ADA, where we all learn to help make the world a more accessible and inclusive place for all of us. I'll contact Mark to let him know that we're having this issue, and hopefully he can figure out something simple to do to make the digests work better.

Thanks so much, everyone!

Isis


Re: Translation for Groups.io? #translation #wiki

 

Hi everyone,

All set up ready for you and for content.?

  • At the bottom of the Table of Contents of the wiki, Languages: Translation Help for Groups.io is a link to a landing page to list languages in this section of the wiki.

  • Easy to create - write or paste and you can change font, colour, indents, etc. in the Advanced Toolbar ("hamburger" menu). You can also link and add attachments and screenshots / photos. Special Character in the second line of the Advanced Toolbar has accents and other diacriticals.
So go here to the landing page:
Landing page lists separate pages for different languages
This is a subsidiary table of contents for the different language pages.

I created the first entry on the landing page.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Language---xxx

Use New Page to create a page for your language help page.

This is the style for the URL for each language page.
?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Language---xxx
URLs are automatically generated by the title of the page. So there may be a page titled Language - French, one titled Language - German (or?Deutsch - your preference).
After you create a page, copy the URL for the page. You will list the page on the landing page (not the main Table of Contents for the wiki).

Don't worry - the beauty of a wiki is that we can undo. You can compare pages and revert to an older version if necessary.
Useful to put a brief explanatory note of what you changed.?

I hope the is clear enough!

The only thing you have to be careful about is not losing the page you are working on before it is linked - hooked into - the landing page menu. You can see all the pages of the wiki at the bottom of the page - a blue button Pages. But there are lots of them. That's why I suggest you adopt a style - languages - French, languages - Greek, etc.?

And there is a search box at the top of the wiki screen!

A little bit of help:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Creating-a-wiki

Frances






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Re: Group messages

 

Jules,

I have had my group transferred which is great.
By using the Easy Yahoo Group Transfer mechanism, or otherwise?

The messages were transferred over and put in a main folder.
What do you mean by "main folder"? Are you referring to the Messages section of a primary group, or something else?

I tried to export the whole messages and download to a zip file as the
process I thought was the same as moving photos.
Do you mean that you used the Export Group Data function in your Groups.io group's Settings page? Or do you mean that you used the getmydata function at Yahoo to export your Yahoo Group's contents?

I had created a subfolder and uploaded the message directory but I
cannot open the folder to see individual messages.
I'm uncertain where you created this subfolder, but in either of the export cases of my prior question the exported messages are in mbox formatted files. That format cannot be directly opened by any browser that I'm aware of to view the messages. One would need to extract the mbox file(s) to your computer's storage and import them to an email application, or a file viewer that supports mbox format.

I want members to view the messages for references but only in a
subgroup for members only.
I don't know of any method to make those messages easily viewable and searchable directly from your subgroup's pages. The difficulty is that viewing files from web sites is subject to each member's browser settings, as well as to the configuration of the site itself. In many cases the member will be required to download the file to view it on their own computer.

Shal


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Re: Messages to aplus.net domains not working

 

Indeed. Mail service--likely to include Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP), Post Office Protocol (POP), and Internet Mail Access Protocol (IMAP)--for aplus.net domains is managed by a different company, carrierzone.com. Aplus.net has contracted the mail service out to Carrierzone. The way they do this is via something called Mail Exchange (MX) records. There are records stating that any mail for aplus.net should be delivered to a carrierzone.com server. You can look at Wikipedia for more detail.

Obviously there are two ways to investigate this problem. Both take some persistence.
  1. Start an inquiry with aplus.net. Likely their techs don't know anything about this (since they don't do mail--but won't admit it, and they won't admit that it's handled by a third party.
  2. Contact Carrierzone. They may not want to talk to you because you're not their customer--Aplus is.
You just have to keep contacting them both until someone acts. I've been through this exercise before, with a couple of different companies.

My guess is that Carrierzone sees the 100 messages a day coming from [GMF] and decides they are spam and dumps them. If they also send a message to G.IO, G.IO will send you a message stating that you've been unsubscribed. There's a link in the message that resubscribes you when clicked.

This has happened to me three times?since the Yahoo cutoff announcement. Sure enough, each time I find two days worth of [GMF] messages in my Spam folder. Once I click the link in the message and move the messages from Spam to Inbox, things start working again--until the next time.

Larry



Re: Messages to aplus.net domains not working

 

Thank you, that's helpful.

The last email sent got a timeout at 8:13 pm (what timezone?), which suggests that everything has been queued and not sent.


Re: How much time does it take to manage a group?

 

Ken -
Just a couple thoughts. I have some larger groups I've brought over from Y! and some smaller ones I've created on groups.io later. Some have very internet savvy members and others are . . . Well, let's just say that on the information highway they're cruising up the parking lane with their flashers on - but they're enjoying themselves and contributing! Some of those guys I keep on moderation just so I can jump in when they post and make sure they're doing okay. I don't see those more than once or twice a month and really they take very little time.

I've found that by-and-larger, if folks are told right up front that they're expected to be courteous and criticize *ideas*, not the person posting them, a group can get by with very little effort. My largest groups have dealt with some pretty contentious issues and managed to get through them in a very civilized manner by following that basic tennet. I really think that letting members know your expectations right away, and even put them in the group guidelines avoids a lot of problems.

Overall I'd say that Gerald really gave you the most important answer with his comment:
I don't think nearly enough people know it, but this group (GMF) is a big part
of what makes GIO such a great place to be. You'd never be on your own.
My recommendation would be to start your group and invite a few people. Most of the setup recommendations are the result of literally hundreds of man-years of group ownership/moderation experience both here and on Y! and it's predecessors. If you run into something you're not sure how to handle and you've checked the GMF wiki, then bring your questions here.

Dano


Re: premium -- not premium

 

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And what if the subgroups are not shown on referenced page, even after two invites have been sent???

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On 11/16/2019 8:58 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 08:55 PM, Zelda Collett-Paule wrote:
I sent an invitation on November 6.? No response?yet. ?:-(
Zelda -- It should not take that long.

Check your status per?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948. If it says "be sure to invite [email protected]"?or something to that effect, your invitation did not work and you will need to send another one. Be sure to send it from your YAHOO group.

Bruce