On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 08:12 PM, Dale Putnam wrote:

Basically, how do you move a group that doesn't have an owner, and there are no moderators to allow permissions or a new

position to anyone?

Dale -- Without these permissions, you cannot use the Easy Group Transfer, and will have to migrate group content manually.

More information at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups, item #10.

Bruce

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 07:53 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

Thanks, but will changing the Yahoo mail delivery address to the same as my groups.io address set it up for future account transfers to enroll me under that groups.io account?

Dale -- In groups.io, your email address is your account. If a future transfer moves your Yahoo address, that account will be set up all over again, possibly requiring a second merge operation. I don't know your personal situation with respect to how many groups you are in, what email address you have subscribed in each of them, or the likelihood of any of them being migrated later. I can only point you to the available tools, and leave the timing up to you.

Good luck,
Bruce

Bruce,

Thanks, but will changing the Yahoo mail delivery address to the same as my groups.io address set it up for future account transfers to enroll me under that groups.io account?

Dale -- You can merge your own accounts, but you cannot merge someone else's.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts?for instructions.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 06:15 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

I was using a different email for my Yahoo groups than I did for groups.io.? Now that several of those groups have transferred, I have two Groups.io accounts.? Is there a way to merge them, presumably best done after this rush of transfers is completed, or do I just have to join the groups with my main groups.io account.?

Dale -- You can merge your own accounts, but you cannot merge someone else's.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts?for instructions.

Bruce

I was using a different email for my Yahoo groups than I did for groups.io.? Now that several of those groups have transferred, I have two Groups.io accounts.? Is there a way to merge them, presumably best done after this rush of transfers is completed, or do I just have to join the groups with my main groups.io account.?? I would like to keep my ownership of photos and files if possible.?? Should I change my Yahoo main account email to match the groups.io email or is just changing the delivery email enough.? (Which one does groups.io transfer use.)? Any suggestions?? These are accounts where I am only a member.? My own groups I moved over long ago.

Dale Smith

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 06:06 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

I was looking for the transfer set up page that Bruce spoke of and found?/edittransfer?start=1? I don't see any option to opt out of having a notice sent to everyone upon transfer.

Suzanne -- You have to click the green "Start Group Transfer Process" button. Once you actually have a transfer initiated and are at the "invite the transfer agent" step, at that point the screen will refresh and you'll see the extra opt-out checkbox.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups#Step-2-E28094-Set-Up-and-Start-the-Transfer-Process?for screenshots.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 05:49 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

How do I get to the transfer set up page you mention if I have already requested the transfer but I'm still in the queue.? Can I change anything at this point?

Suzanne -- It appears that you've already given the go-ahead to transfer and are counting down your place in the upload queue. That being so, it's too late to change the entries in the checkboxes. If you want to make any changes now you will have to contact support ([email protected]).?

The folks on the yahoo list know the group is being transferred and have been supportive.? The reason I want to postpone the welcome email is that I got the message below from in an email after I initiated the transfer request.? If there is anything I have to do manually or try to figure out how to clean up, I was hoping to do that before the welcome message was sent.

While that's fine, it's also rather unlikely.?

To be clear, the checkbox refers to the transfer completion notification, not the welcome notice. As for the latter, I'm not longer certain it would be sent in any event.

I think I've read about some folks who have had to request the transfer be done a second time to get satisfactory results - or have I misunderstood this?

This was more common in the past, but there haven't been many recent reports to that effect. Most of the discussions of "missing content" in the past three weeks have been from those who simply needed to wait for the message indexing to catch up, or who read the number of topics on the group home page and mistook that for the number of messages. And if a few files or photos are left behind, it's usually easier to move the stragglers manually (if you can get to them at all) than it is to request a new transfer.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 05:24 PM, Mike W5RKL wrote:

I too am having problems with the Welcome message NOT being sent to new members.
I have the "Type" set as "Welcome" and I edited the original message to include additional
information then set the message as "Active". I saved the settings then asked numerous NEW
members if they received the Welcome message, None of them have received the message
indicating it is NOT being sent.

Mike -- For what it's worth, I have reported this as a bug to support, at least in the context of Yahoo group transfers. I haven't yet received a response. I don't know if anyone will bother to work on this, with the understanding that in about three more weeks there aren't going to be any more Yahoo transfers.

Any ideas what is causing this and what steps I can take to make the Welcome message be
sent to new members?

To this point, no one has reported that any new people joining their group after the transfer are failing to receive it, just in the context of a transfer. If you have clear evidence that's happening too, please report back, because that's an entirely different problem.

For what it's worth, I just subscribed to my test group using a different email address from what I usually use. I first got the groups.io generic confirmation email, then the group's Pending Subscription notice...but...I never got the active the Welcome notice, either...

Hmmm...that's very disturbing. I can assure you that it used to work. I'd still appreciate it if others could verify.

I've sent the Welcome message "Manually" as a separate message
to the group email address.

I really think that's your best bet, especially under the circumstances. Be sure to send it as a Special Notice.?

Bruce

I too am having problems with the Welcome message NOT being sent to new members.
I have the "Type" set as "Welcome" and I edited the original message to include additional
information then set the message as "Active". I saved the settings then asked numerous NEW
members if they received the Welcome message, None of them have received the message
indicating it is NOT being sent.

Any ideas what is causing this and what steps I can take to make the Welcome message be
sent to new members? I've sent the Welcome message "Manually" as a separate message
to the group email address.

73
Mike W5RKL

[email protected] Moderator
RMC(SW) USN RET

Make sure the Heathkit group has been upgraded to Premium.? Each group must be upgraded separately.? The premium upgrade is per group not an owner upgrade.??

IF the group is already upgraded to premium and if the
If the transfer request was accepted, then your transfer page should be telling you to do the invite from your Yahoo group to [email protected]

This is something you must do yourself from your own Yahoo group.

Log into the yahoo group and invite [email protected] to be a member of your group.

When your invitation is accepted the status page will tell you.? Then yiu log into your Yahoo group again. Find the new member. Member name will be groups.io and that member will have the [email protected] email address. Click on the member name and make grouos.io a moderator of your yahoo group but leave the permission boxes unchecked.? Your new status once this is done should change to show you awaiting export, status 1.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 06:58 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

Usage is 1.1 MB of 1GB

This might be something of a long shot but don't sub - groups have to share their storage both with one another and with their parent group? Assuming that to be the case is the total quoted for the sub - group only or is it an aggregrate across parent and children?

It just could be that a lot of material elsewhere has filled the store.

Chris

So I went and looked, and apparently you can set a hashtag to automatically lock or delete a thread after a period of time, but not moderate. Wanted to correct that statement I made before.

Also, there is a limited number of times you can select: one hour, one day, one week, .... It's not something I could specify to lock after 2 days as I wanted / thought.

Su

On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Su <randsjmj@...> wrote:

Nice!

How did you download the attachments from Yahoo in the first place? One by one? PGO?

Su

I just downloaded them one by one from the Attachments page.

Gilbert

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 03:56 PM, Debbie Greenlee wrote:

Thanks but I don't even see a DATABASES section.

Debbie -- If you enable Databases in your Settings (look in the Features block), your links will be there.

Bruce

Bruce,

Thanks but I don't even see a DATABASES section.
Debbie

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 02:01 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

So my questions are:?

1) for the first bullet?point above, how do I specify for GIO NOT to send a notice to every member?

Suzanne -- There is a checkbox for this on the transfer setup page (where you decide what areas of the group to transfer).

2) If the Welcome message is not active at the time of the transfer, does that mean it will not be sent??

Such is my understanding, although others have recently reported that it isn't sent anyway (ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/40205879#23064).

And if so, then how is it best to send a welcome message when I am ready?

You can send any existing notice to any collection of members by clicking the checkboxes in the Member List and selecting Send Message from the Actions menu. There is a pull-down menu on the subsequent page where you can select the Member Notice that you want to send.

But I really think it's a whole lot simpler -- and are more likely to induce others to follow suit -- if you take whatever parts of the transfer summary that you want to share and whatever else you want to say and just post it to the group as a Special Notice.?

Suzanne, I do suggest you give careful consideration to Sharon's response. If it were me, I'd just be up-front about telling everyone what's going on, and also go ahead and let the groups.io notification be sent. There are plenty of subscribers who manage to get paranoid on their own without the group Owner becoming all secretive and giving them a reason to be.

Regards,
Bruce

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 02:42 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Groups.io says the LINKS were transferred but LINKS is not listed on my Admin page.

Debbie -- You'll find them in Databases.

Added to the FAQ on transferring - in the wiki.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

Frances
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