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My Welcome letter available to use as a template

 

David,

Shal cleaned it up and put it in the Wiki:
On Monday 11/11/2019, [David Riecks] said:
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Steve:
I'd love to see this as well, and tried to email you, but when I "copy email address" I only get stevebass@... which isn't going to work.? Can you add "anonymize" it and have it added to the wiki?


Re: Directory not showing all members

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Max Edleson wrote:
...it would be nice in groups like the one that I administer that you show yourself as present so that contributors can see who is receiving their contributions.
If you mean what I think you mean that won't and can't work. Show yourself as present means what exactly? A subscriber to that particular group? Logged in and watching? Just being a subscriber to any given group doesn't mean that you are reading everything that turns up. Some subscribers set their mail delivery to "No Mail". Does that mean that they read posts on the web UI as and when they are submitted, or does it mean that they only read things as and when the mood takes?

Just having every profile visible in the directory doesn't actually tell you who everyone is, if only because some people use Display Names that don't reveal their actual identity.

Next time you get a Read Receipt for an email you have sent have a look at what it says; It announces that the email has been displayed on the recipient's computer (or whatever) but it reminds you that they may not have read it.

Chris


Re: Directory not showing all members

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM, Max Edleson wrote:
It would be really nice to have the option as a list owner (of a restricted group) to decide that it be a premise of the group that all members be displayed in the member directory.
Max -- In groups.io, a subscriber owns his own Profile, and controls its visibility to non-Moderators/Owners.

If you want your subscribers to be able to see each other's information, see Admin>Settings>Privacy>Members Visible. Note that doing so will NOT allow mere subscribers to "click into" a member record or perform any admin functions.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Photo Attachment Delete bug

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM, InkkFreakk wrote:
Since last week, me and my co owner and mod have been unable to delete any photos from the attachments photo section.
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Has anyone else had issues with this or has any ideas why it is not working?
InkkFreakk -- "Unable to delete photos" doesn't explain what you've already tried. Please put more effort into helping us to help you.?

Bruce


Re: Missing Transfer

 
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:06 AM, Joe Wolfe wrote:
When I go to look at when it will be transfered, all I see is my Drake group, nothing about the Heathkit group.? What's up with this?
Joe -- If when you to go to?/yahootransfer, you don't see your HeathKit group in the list under "View Existing Transfer Status," then you never successfully initiated a transfer for that group.

Click the green "Set Up New Transfer" button and start over at Step 1. Detailed instructions at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22617. Be sure to select your destination group from the pull-down menu.

Bruce


Re: Directory not showing all members

 

Hi all,

It would be really nice to have the option as a list owner (of a restricted group) to decide that it be a premise of the group that all members be displayed in the member directory.

While I understand how particularly in a public group that it be a privacy option for members to choose whether their profile is displayed, it would be nice in groups like the one that I administer that you show yourself as present so that contributors can see who is receiving their contributions.

Perhaps this could be an option that only shows up to owner/moderators for restricted groups.

I am relatively new to the GIO community.... is this discussion forum effectively a feature request forum also or are there other avenues (emailing support@??, etc.)

Max


Re: For a group discussing medical info

 

Hi Brian -?
When determining your settings you might also want to consider what role you want your group to play. ?Do you want to only keep family and friends updated or do you want to encourage feedback or help schedule visits, etc.?
When I was going through cancer treatment I set up an invitation only blog with updates and the general info I was comfortable sharing. I sent an email that notified friends of the update and url, which also allowed them to email back. Only a few very close folks were on an email where I shared more graphic information and feelings.

You may want to not only make the group/messages private but also not list in the directory. That way you can send invites to those who should be included and also require approval.?

Please be very careful with the information you share or discuss on the group and ensure it is information the primary person - the patient and center of this team - would be comfortable sharing and who she would want it shared with. One of the worst things about being a patient is not having control of the direction your life is taking, especially if those around you feel you may not be competent. It¡¯s important to include the patient in things as simple as updating family and friends - even if you think they don¡¯t hear or understand.?


Re: Photo Download Bug

 

Bruce,

I am assuming that you have recorded this "Photo Search then inability to Download Bug" as a bug to be addressed?
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Re: Bouncing and Yahoo Addresses #bouncedemails

 

OK thanks... I did do a search on this but didn't see anyone talking about this specifically.


Re: How to collect donations from members to support cost of forum

 

Derek:
That's what we did for my ControlledVocabulary group. I've been using Paypal for years, but didn't realize you can log in and then go to https://paypal.me/? to create a link.?

I put this on a link on the main site on the forum page during the transition, but then took it down.?

The end result will look like this, with the [nameyoucreate] being the name you type in the Paypal.me setup.?

https://paypal.me/[nameyoucreate]/20.00USD?
You have to specify a default amount, but the person using the link can change the dollar amount after arriving on the page.?

BTW, I tried putting that into the "description" of the home page (under the general section after going to ADMIN >> SETTINGS), and it shows in the main home page for my group (see example at):
/g/ControlledVocabulary
Note you do have to use the "insert link" feature in the toolbar to make it active.? For those without a separate website, you could also put this link into that section in "General" part (Just below the Description).?

HTH,
David


New members trying to join by email: what did I not tell them?

Brian Jennings
 

One person has made it successfully.?

Besides emailing [GroupName][email protected]?? what did I forget to say??? I know many have tried.? There is nothing in the pending members area.

Does the subject need to be specific too??? This is not in any of the auto headers/footers, etc. so I didn't tell them anything except what it said to do which was email [GroupName][email protected] after the group was approved.?

How did my lucky sole member manage to do it??

TIA,
BJ


Re: Which "custom Welcome notice" will the transfer agent use?

 

Samuel,

Will that active notice then be sent to members who
are added from the Yahoogroup?
I would have confidently said "yes", but there has recently been a topic here concerning some transfers where it did not.
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/40205879#22970

Shal


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Re: My Welcome letter available to use as a template

 

Steve:
I'd love to see this as well, and tried to email you, but when I "copy email address" I only get?stevebass@... which isn't going to work.? Can you add "anonymize" it and have it added to the wiki?


Photo Attachment Delete bug

 

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Since last week, me and my co owner and mod have been unable to delete any photos from the attachments photo section.
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Has anyone else had issues with this or has any ideas why it is not working?
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Inkk


Missing Transfer

 

On 22 October, I paid $110.00 to transfer Heathkit_HFAmps@...m to [email protected].

When I go to look at when it will be transfered, all I see is my Drake group, nothing about the Heathkit group.? What's up with this?

Joe - W7RKN


Re: Non-member request to join sub-group subscribes only to parent group

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:07 AM, Isidro Berniol wrote:
But when someone is using the join button on a subgroup the join request will be listed on the main group. That means I don't have aclue to what subgroup the person like to be added.
Isidro -- That's odd.

When I click on "Join this Group" in a subgroup, I get a red-box error saying "You cannot join this subgroup until you first join the parent group" (or something to that effect). But this is using an email address that already has an account on groups.io. I don't have a unaffiliated email address to test what happens when the email address is unknown to groups.io. This leads me to believe what you're experiencing may be an artifact of the email address confirmation process. Need to think that through a little more on my end.

Bruce

Tangentially-Related Postscript:? I'm frankly surprised that GMF isn't seeing more complaints from people having difficulties with member management in subgroups. I really expected more Owners to create one group with a bunch of unrelated subgroups in order to get multiple Yahoo Groups transferred under one Premium Yearly payment (i.e.: to subvert the transfer pricing structure). Again, not saying that's your case, or Samuel's -- we talked you through all the caveats well before you did your transfers, and Samuel has been around here a long time. But if others fail to follow the subgroup guidance and subsequently experience issues along those lines I feel that's just .


Re: groups.io smtp server blocked again

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 09:30 AM, Isidro Berniol wrote:
I know, it is? a lot of work to check the blacklists regulary
Mark (groups.io) has all sorts of tools that he uses to keep an eye on this sort of thing.? The big problem is that many of those lists don't do their own investigating, they just incorporate lists from other services.? A false report on one service can quickly migrate to other services.? Only support can actually do anything.

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Re: groups.io smtp server blocked again

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 02:53 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 08:51 AM, Isidro Berniol wrote:
I hope that groups.io will do a good job in monitoring blacklisting and removing from the blacklists.
Isidro -- Groups.io did not put themselves on a blacklist. It is often more effective to complain to your own provider. You are, after all, paying them good money to deliver desired messages to your inbox.
That's clear to me. The mentioned blacklist operates, like many others, with spam traps. And as soon as the blacklisting is triggered mostly only the owner can try to whitlist again.
This has nothing to do with my provider, because he is doing hopefully the job right. OK, I'm my own email provider.? ;-) I have excluded now the groups.io smtp server from blacklisting check on my servers.
But this is only a solution for me and my customers, not for all the other users that have the usal email providers that use also the common blacklisting pools.

I know, it is? a lot of work to check the blacklists regulary, but groups.io has to do that and also check in the mail logs why they were blacklisted.
We have to do that also on our servers on regular basis, that's normal work if you provide email services.

The reputation of your email server is good, according to talos, but blacklistchecking is essential.

Isidro


Re: Success...

 

I just figure they are clearing my clutter for me,


Re: Transfer payment options??

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:08 AM, Cassius Julianus wrote:
1. Is paying $20 a month for a year going to get my group transferred, or not?
Cassius -- No...you cannot use the Easy Group Transfer process on the Premium Monthly plan.

I'm paying the same money...
Premium Yearly involves a full-year commitment, while Premium Monthly permits you to revert to Basic after one month. So it's really not even close the same thing.

2. If I have to pay the $220 up front to get my group changed over, what do I do now? I can't find any page that shows what I've paid, or any way to change from $20 month to pay the full $220.00 .?
Go back to the same page (Admin>Billing), select the Premium Yearly option, and go through the checkout process again.

Regards,
Bruce