James,

If someone is the owner of a group with a Yearly Premium membership,
is it possible to create a subgroup and then IMPORT/UPLOAD messages
saved from an old Yahoo Group?

As others have answered, no, that feature isn't available.

If that's not possible, I suppose the best we can do in that case is
to convert the odd ball file type Yahoo gives out into a readable PDF
File, which can be uploaded to the files section.

The naming convention Yahoo used is inconvenient but mbox is a pretty common format (I'm not sure which you were calling oddball, "type" could refer either).

Another option, which you can do in addition to any others, is upload the .zip of mbox file(s) Yahoo gave you for that group as a file in that Groups.io subgroup. You can then tell members that they can use a file viewer or email program to read the messages.

I haven't tried Thunderbird yet, but a member of another group reported that its "ImportExportTools NG" add-on failed on these files. That person recommended File Viewer Plus ($40) which was able to read them.


Shal


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Thanks for the feedback.
Couple of comments:
a. yes it's a video pertaining to an event of our group; filmed by one of our members
b. Bob says "videos are not supported " (?) Well...yes they are, we have several other videos of our group events in the io group already. Only this particular one has caused this particular problem and it may be due its size (?)
Thanks again for the support.
Fernando

J Forster,

... can the owner request that groups.io transfer another group into
the main group as a subgroup ...

Just to be clear on the terminology: you would set up a transfer from a Yahoo Group into the subgroup. You have to create the subgroup before setting up the transfer, just as you had to set up the primary group before any transfers into it.

If a main Group is made premium ...

Specifically, upgraded to the Premium Yearly plan. Not the one-month or monthly plans.

... can the owner request that groups.io transfer another group into
... a subgroup for free?

Yes. Regardless of whether there had been a transfer into the primary group.

Shal


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I spent a while creating a Welcome letter for the upcoming transfer. It's a little long, but covers a few of the contingencies and questions I'm expecting.

You're welcome to use it as a template and make mods to fix your group.

E-mail me offline and I'll send you the Word doc.

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I have a number of groups projected to complete within the next few days and want to create/edit the appropriate notices to be issued. What, exactly, will be sent out when?

I understand that a notice will be sent out to all (?) / all active (?) transferred members of the imported Yahoo group upon completion of the transfer.

This implies that members of multiple subgroups will receive multiple transfer completion notices. Correct?

What will be the content of this standard GIO message besides the notice of completion and a link to logon and to set a password? Please post a sample message.

What other messages will be sent out upon transfer completion?
The current group Welcome message?
The current group Guidelines message?

If so will they be sent out simultaneously with the GIO message or delayed?

I am trying to prevent any conflicting message content that could cause confusion in the recipients.


BTW, Access to the management of group notices is very difficult to find; For those looking it is:

Group >> Admin >> Settings >> Member Notices (at the TOP of the page!)

Art




Namaste', Art

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 05:35 PM, Bob Krampetz wrote:

I have a small group.? ?When I display the members, I find 70 that show up when I click the Members (under Admin).

But, clicking on Invite,? I noticed "Sent Invitation" at the top.? ?Clicking that,??

I find all the ID's I sent invitations to, and a date (or time stamp)

The Puzzle:? only 54 are marked "accepted"?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? and among those marked "Sent" are the missing 16. that ARE listed as members.

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I think I'm looking at a minor bug?

Bob -- If members join by any means other than accepting the invitation (Direct Add, sending a +subscribe email, clicking "Join This Group" on the home page), such invitations remain in limbo, and continue to display as "sent" until you get around to deleting them.

If you really want to check up on this, open any record in the Member List and click the "Activity History" button at the top of the resulting page. The earliest log entry should tell you how that person managed to get into the group.

Bruce

If PayPal is used, each donation accumulates at PayPal and can be withdrawn once.

Members don't expose their credit card info if they use PayPal. I've used PayPal since its inception and have never had any issue. In fact, if a website where I'm buying something offers PayPal, I always select that.

I don't care if eleven individuals send me a $10 check by postal mail. I'm flexible. Hey, I'm in California...

Larry

Mod's note: off-topic so changed subject to match content.

Here are two screen shots for the Member Notices settings for the last subgroup I have waiting in the transfer queue. (I've masked the real name of my group.) Please let me know if anyone can spot something wrong with this setup.

The transfer for this group will take a few days more to complete. I'll let you know the results.

Robert R.

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 04:44 PM, J Forster wrote:

If a main Group is made premium and transferred by Groups.io can the owner request that groups.io transfer another group into the main group as a subgroup for free?

That's correct. Please read?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup?before you get too excited about this.

Bruce

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 04:44 PM, J Forster wrote:

If a main Group is made premium and transferred by Groups.io can the owner request that groups.io transfer another group into the main group as a subgroup for free?

Yes. Here is from the FAQ on transferring:

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Can you please clarify?

If a main Group is made premium and transferred by Groups.io can the owner request that groups.io transfer another group into the main group as a subgroup for free?

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 04:35 PM, Deborah wrote:

Since i am trying to find the button to set a member as a moderator, i started looking for the needed option. But if I click on the member's actions i see set moderation or something like that. How can I set him as owner / moderator? cause, if i check an option, the other will be unchecked.

?If you make someone an owner, they automatically are moderators.?
In Admin, Members, click on the person's name that you want to promote.?
Choose from the dropdown menu - owner or moderator.
Then a menu opens with permissions. Tick those that you want them to have.
Don't forget to scroll down and save.

Be very cautious when giving Set Moderator Privileges to anyone. A Moderator with that box checked can promote themselves to "Owner" and demote the real owner to member and even remove them from membership. It is a Permission with all the powers of being an owner.

See this page from the wiki -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Promotion%2C-Status-or-Permissions-Change-to-Moderator-or-Owner

Frances

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 09:35 PM, Deborah wrote:

How can I set him as owner / moderator?

See this in the GMF wiki.

Chris

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 08:56 PM, J Forster wrote:

Also, can someone be made a Moderator of the subgroup without becoming a Moderator of the main group?

Yes. It's entirely possible to have different sets of moderators for each subgroup, with or without some overlap. The main group owner(s) will always have ultimate control, the subgroups cannot become wholly independent.

Hi all, i am a new user of the group. I need to understand something: Since i am trying to find the button to set a member as a moderator, i started looking for the needed option. But if I click on the member's actions i see set moderation or something like that. How can I set him as owner / moderator? cause, if i check an option, the other will be unchecked. Thanks for helping me.

On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:39 PM, J Forster <JFor.Groups@...> wrote:

Also, can someone be made a Moderator of the subgroup without becoming a Moderator of the main group?

Yes.

Gilbert

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 04:12 PM, Bicka Hall wrote:

is there a place to change the width of the ID column ? Because of it's width, members cant print off the database.

Not that I know of.

I highly recommend that you leave all column widths at zero (the default) and let your browser auto-format the table to fit the page width.?

Bruce

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 03:12 PM, Bicka Hall wrote:

is there a place to change the width of the ID column ?

No, but you can hide that column by clicking on the ID button at the bottom of the database view.

Duane
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 09:12 PM, Byron Nevins wrote:

We are getting lots of unwanted unsubscribes.?

Are you a newly migrated group?

You may have had a lot of essentially inactive members who had "no emails" set. Notwithstanding that setting they will have received notifications about the move to Groups.io. Those notifications may well have been enough to make them realise that they had lost interest in the group; they had probably forgotten that they were members and this change was just the nudge they needed to leave once and for all.

You might not have wanted the "unsubscribes" but the message you quoted makes it clear that the person concerned left of their own accord.

You might find that you suddenly get a flurry of messages advising you of subscribers being "removed because a message was marked as spam"; if that starts happening see here.

Chris