On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 01:48 PM, <lisa.reiner@...> wrote:

If I elect to make the Welcome Notice?inactive, and also?disable the "you've been added" notification, the members will not have any inkling I made the switch, correct? ?I just don't want to confuse matters, now that we got them off YahooGroups.

Lisa -- That is my understanding. Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, objects in mirror may be closer than they appear.

Then, later, when I elect to proceed with using groups.io, how will I "activate" the group?

Once a group is set up -- and already reviewed against the groups.io Terms of Service -- it is already "active."?

Once you complete the Easy Group Transfer and receive the Owner's completion notice, you can lock the group...you'll find a baby-blue button for that at the very bottom of the Settings page. This will keep anyone (including you) from accidentally posting something to the group and tipping people off until such time that you've finished up whatever it is you need to do over that "month or so" time period.

I do NOT recommend locking the group until the transfer is done. It's possible that the transfer agent will be able to complete the transfer anyway, but it could also mess things up royally.

?Is there a way to send the Welcome Notice and the "you've been added" notification at that later time? ?Or is there another way?

Yes and no.

You can?manually send any existing Member Notice by selecting a collection of people from your Member List (using the checkboxes) and choosing "Send Message" from the Actions pull-down menu at the bottom of the page. I'm pretty sure this works even if those people have "No Email" selected for message delivery.

You cannot, however, manually send the "you've been added" notification with the opt-out link. That notification is a system-generated, one-time deal.

Is there an option for me to set up the transfer with the members and the archive content, and then just hold off on the step to Welcome/Notify the members, i.e. freeze the process after everything is exported form YahooGroups, but before the members are alerted? ?

I believe I have already answered this...if there's something different here I'm not picking up on it.

One more question: Before welcoming/notifying new members, can I edit/update some of their email addresses? ?As I went to transfer from YG to GoogleGroups, I came to know some people have new email addresses....

Since you have a Premium group, you can do this...but I wouldn't recommend it. For one thing, it might generate a notification...and you've already said that you don't want them to be notified. It will also change their email address in any other group in groups.io that they may already be subscribed to, and you may end up with some very unhappy campers because of it.

It's my experience that helping people who haven't asked for my help is not very helpful. :-)

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:48 PM, <lisa.reiner@...> wrote:

If I elect to make the Welcome Notice?inactive, and also?disable the "you've been added" notification, the members will not have any inkling I made the switch, correct? ?I just don't want to confuse matters, now that we got them off YahooGroups.

Then, later, when I elect to proceed with using groups.io, how will I "activate" the group? ?Is there a way to send the Welcome Notice and the "you've been added" notification at that later time? ?Or is there another way?

If it were me, I'd disable the No Email option on the GIO (anyone with that setting will be changed to Special Notice.)? Then when I was ready, I'd send a Special Notice email to let everyone know.? You could include any additional information you want.

Is there an option for me to set up the transfer with the members and the archive content, and then just hold off on the step to Welcome/Notify the members, i.e. freeze the process after everything is exported form YahooGroups, but before the members are alerted? ?

No.

One more question: Before welcoming/notifying new members, can I edit/update some of their email addresses? ?As I went to transfer from YG to GoogleGroups, I came to know some people have new email addresses....

It might be easier for them to change their email address after they get to the group.? I believe you can change their email address for them on paid groups though.

Duane
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 11:54 AM, Gina Pera wrote:

Do I just give them the link now, and they can participate?? Or must they register with groups.io?

You can just send them the link to the group.? Everyone that was transferred will already have a GIO account.? You may want to include a link to /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-in-and-How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password

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On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:53 PM, Herb Gellis wrote:

Curious. This worked in Chrome. I had been trying to use my usual FireFox, which does have some controls.

Glad you were able to get it to work.

First thing that was different is that as part of the credit card info, it also wanted my zip code. It accepted all this and never asked for my name or address! It had only an email address.

I think groups.io uses Stripe to collect payments. Not sure how that all works, or what info might it have been gleaned from your existing account information.

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 01:48 PM, Bill Kay wrote:

My groups transfer from Yahoo to Groups.io went very well.? But on groups.io, where do I find the transferred links?

Bill -- You'll find them in Databases.

Bruce

My groups transfer from Yahoo to Groups.io went very well.? But on groups.io, where do I find the transferred links?? Groups.io does not mention a "Links" page as far as I can find.? ? Thanks anyone/everyone,
Bill in San Diego

Bruce,?
? ?I appreciate your detailed response. ?I definitely do not want to loose ownership of our prior content...

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Shal, isn't it standard procedure when something goes wrong in the transfer process, to delete the transfer and start over?? And no extra charge?? I thought I'd read that happening here with other groups.

Terri

Thanks for your help, Duane.

Here's what happened (I think):

In the settings, I had specified that a notice NOT go to the Yahoogroup.

I didn't want to do that until I had prepared everything, learned how things work, etc.

So, almost 1000 are in but they don't know it.

QUESTION, PLEASE:? Do I just give them the link now, and they can participate?? Or must they register with groups.io?

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thanks so much!??
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Curious. This worked in Chrome. I had been trying to use my usual FireFox, which does have some controls. First thing that was different is that as part of the credit card info, it also wanted my zip code. It accepted all this and never asked for my name or address! It had only an email address.

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Yes, all info entered, no extra stuff ;-)

I'm going to try with a different browser, where I don't have "NoScript" controls.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 11:57 AM, Herb Gellis wrote:

I'm on Step 1 of YG Transfer... I put in my credit card number info, and push Upgrade Your Group. I get this message, along with "Please check your internet connection and try again".

Internet is fine, tried it more than once, same problem.

Enter the credit card number in sequence, no hyphens or spaces.

Did you also?enter your expiry date and CVC number at the far right? You have to provide that, too.

Also, how does this process know who I am (name, address) for the credit processing? Or will I be prompted.

You will be prompted for that once you get past the initial card info screen.

If it still doesn't work, you might have to send us a screenshot (with any credit info redacted, of course).

Regards,
Bruce

I'm on Step 1 of YG Transfer... I put in my credit card number info, and push Upgrade Your Group. I get this message, along with "Please check your internet connection and try again".

Internet is fine, tried it more than once, same problem.

Also, how does this process know who I am (name, address) for the credit processing? Or will I be prompted.

Completely stuck here!

OK. Thanks for the information, Bruce and Duane.

When I first took over administration of "T-VOG" at yahoogroups.com about a year ago, there were 140 "bouncing" addresses. Nobody had ever paid any attention to the bounce reports. I put a lot of effort into recovering as many of those members as possible, and removed all the rest. I'm trying to run a tight ship, now that my list is pretty clean. I guess the occasional "soft bounce" from yahoo's servers are just a fact of life.
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Works fine here. You *did* put the hashtag in the subject line, right?
Bruce

LOL, yep, I guess it does pay to read the instructions :)
I was putting it in the body.? I just tried it in the Subject, and it seems to have worked as expected.
Much thanks for walking me through this, and my apologies for missing that key step in the Help docs.
Ron

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 11:40 AM, Kelly Misegadis wrote:

But, is there a way for non-moderator to Search the Directory?? That would be a lot more useful than having to scroll through pages and pages of members to find the person you are looking for.

The Directory has no search function, and you can't even invert the sort order. I agree that either or both would be handy.

Note also that the group Directory is an index of member profiles, NOT a complete member list.?If a member has not created a profile, or has chosen not to share it, their "profile" will appear to Moderators and Owners only. If you want every member to see every other member, you have to make the Member List visible to them via settings (Admin->Settings->Privacy->Members Visible).

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Directory-and-Members-List?for further details.

Bruce

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Hello,
? I searched the archives and if this question is there, I overlooked it so my apologies.? But, is there a way for non-moderator to Search the Directory?? That would be a lot more useful than having to scroll through pages and pages of members to find the person you are looking for.

Thanks so much,

Kelly Misegadis