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Multiple copies of the same message

 

And then what?

I just received 8 copies of what appear to be the same message.? I've found the poster in the list of members, but there isn't any "More" menu or other useful controls.




Mod's note: subject edited. Doesn't seem to be part of a thread.


Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?

 

In YahooGroups (web interface), the URL of each message ends with the number of that message, and that number is incremental starting with "1" back at the beginning of the group and its first post.
In Groups.io, the upper right corner of the web interface says "1 - 20 of 13074"
That is where I am getting my numbers from.

Over the 20 years my group has been in existence, it's possible some messages have been deleted.? But 133 seems high.? I am the only one allowed to post, and I am the only owner/moderator.? If any had been deleted, I'd guess less than a dozen, not over 100!

Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way?


Re: Move messages AFTER group transfer?

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:14 PM, Ron wrote:
My question is, can I temporarily turn off the mailing out of messages from my Groups.io group, so subscribers don't see the same messages again?? And then once the missing messages are in, turn it back on, and proceed like normal?
Ron -- Create a hashtag with the "no email" flag set, and add that hashtag to each such message. That will do what you want.

Kinda awkward, I admit; but seems better than temporarily changing everyone's message delivery setting and then trying to change them all back. It will also help you find all the affected messages later, if for some reason things don't go as expected.

Bruce


Re: Move messages AFTER group transfer?

 

Not directly.? You'd have to forward or copy each one as an email from you, so much of the 'envelope' would be lost.
Duane
I would like to do this.? I've got an announcement-only group. I am the only one allowed to post, and therefore have all of the original messages in my Sent mail folder on my computer that I can just forward in to Groups.io.

My question is, can I temporarily turn off the mailing out of messages from my Groups.io group, so subscribers don't see the same messages again?? And then once the missing messages are in, turn it back on, and proceed like normal?

Thanks.


Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:07 PM, Ron wrote:
The YahooGroups appeared to have 13207 messages in it at the time of export.? But the Groups.io import only has 13074 messages in it, leaving behind a mysterious 133 messages.

Is there any way to identify what messages got missed, and why?
Ron -- How did you determine the "expected number?"

You cannot count on the message number of the highest message to be the same as the total messages present. I suspect these 133 messages were deleted from your Yahoo group before the export ever occurred.?

Regards,
Bruce


Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?

 

My YahooGroups -> Groups.io transfer completed today (woooo!)? See below for the progress I experienced.

The YahooGroups appeared to have 13207 messages in it at the time of export.? But the Groups.io import only has 13074 messages in it, leaving behind a mysterious 133 messages.

Is there any way to identify what messages got missed, and why?

Thanks.


I think my export from Yahoo happened overnight (Sat26 into Sunday27).

10/27: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 527 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/28: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 506 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/29: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 487 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/30: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 462 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/31: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 433 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
11/01: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 423 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]

11/05 (early): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 302 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4]
11/05 (late): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about?218?groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4]
11/07 (early): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 2 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4]


Re: Deleting old links from the Databases section of an imported Yahoo Group #database

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:06 PM, J. Willardston Smith wrote:

Our imported Yahoo Group folders of links form 19 tables of links in our new Groups.io home.

Is there a way to delete all 19 tables simultaneously?

No.


Re: Deleting old links from the Databases section of an imported Yahoo Group #database

 

Bruce, thank you for your fast reply.? Now I know how to edit and delete individual tables.

Our imported Yahoo Group folders of links form 19 tables of links in our new Groups.io home.

Is there a way to delete all 19 tables simultaneously?

Or must one delete each table one-at-a-time?

There doesn't seem to be an option to delete all tables simultaneously in the upper-left of the Databases screen.? (I tried unsuccessfully to insert an image of the upper screen.? The only two options seem to be +Create Table and +Import Table.? But no option to delete all tables.)


Re: How to approve "pending" members imported from YG?

 

Me, again. Still trying to figure it out.

The list of members seems complete.

But even some people already listed as members are "applying" and I have to approve.

Is it possible that my setting -- to require approval of new members -- is gumming up the works?

?

tx


Re: Help with Yahoo group transfer - it appears to be stuck

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 07:35 PM, Dog Health wrote:
It looks like transfer@... (not ) has accepted the invite but this is the status message and it hasn't changed in days. When I try to resend the invite to [email protected] it gets bumped as Invalid email address. When I try to resend the invite to transfer@... I get Already subscribed. This is the message I get when I click on my existing transfer. I cannot get a bead on where this is at or what I need to do, if anything. Can someone help please??
The instructions on the transfer page at?/yahootransfer?say the following:

3. Send an invite?from your Yahoo Group?to?[email protected]?(bold text in original)

Are you trying to invite the transfer agent to your groups.io group? If so, that will not work, and it's no surprise that the status page screenshot shows that no invitation has been received.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Help with Yahoo group transfer - it appears to be stuck

 

Invite Summary

Invites Processed:?1
Invites Sent:?0


The following email addresses had errors:


Invite Summary

Invites Processed:?1
Invites Sent:?0


The following email addresses had errors:

Display NameEmailDeliveryJoined


It looks like transfer@... (not ) has accepted the invite but this is the status message and it hasn't changed in days. When I try to resend the invite to [email protected] it gets bumped as Invalid email address. When I try to resend the invite to transfer@... I get Already subscribed. This is the message I get when I click on my existing transfer. I cannot get a bead on where this is at or what I need to do, if anything. Can someone help please??

Easy Yahoo Group Transfer Setup

Make sure you have sent an invite to your group for the user?[email protected]. We will send you an email once we've received and accepted an invite. If this message hasn't been updated within 6 hours of you sending your invite, please send another one. This notice will be updated when we have received your invite.
Yahoo Group Email Address
Groups.io Group? ? ?-? ? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ? ?? ?? ?DogHealth2? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ? ?? ?? ?

Transfer Members

Transfer Messages

Transfer Photos

Transfer Files

Transfer Links

Transfer Databases

Send a message to your members when the transfer is complete

Here is where I set transfer@... as a moderator...

Email

User Name
User name is not set.?View Profile
Display Name
Joined
Oct 20
Role? ?? ?? ?Member? ?? ?? ?Moderator? ?? ?? ?Owner?? ?? ?Owners have all permissions, while moderators can have specific permissions.

Moderator Permissions

Approve Pending Messages
Edit Archives
Invite Members
Create/Delete Hashtags
Manage Subgroups
Add or Modify Integrations
Modify Group Settings
Manage Paid Subscriptions/Donations
Billing

View Member List
Approve Pending Members (also allows access to the member list)
Ban Members (also allows access to the member list)
Set Member Subscription Options (also allows access to the member list)
Set Moderator Privileges (also allows access to the member list and allows setting member subscription options)
Remove Members (also allows access to the member list)

Notifications

Email when there are messages needing approval.
Email when there are members needing approval.
Email when a member joins/leaves this group.
Email when group storage limits are reached.
Email when someone creates or deletes a subgroup.
Email when someone reports a message.

Owner Email

All EmailsReceive every message that is sent to [email protected].Subscribers OnlyReceive only messages sent by subscribers.NoneReceive no messages sent to [email protected].

Email Delivery

Individual MessagesYou will receive each message in an individual email.Full Featured DigestGroup up to 12 messages together as one email instead of being sent individually (rich formatting).Plain DigestGroup up to 12 messages together as one email instead of being sent individually (plain formatting).Daily SummaryA daily summary, delivered in the morning, of the group's messages from the previous day.Special Notices OnlyYou will only receive special notices from the moderators.No EmailYou will receive no emails.

Signature

Use Signature For Web Posting
Use Signature For Email Posting


 

Mr. Bowman,

You are correct Sir. I will give it more time. Thank you.

Scott.


Re: What does [EXTERNAL] mean on a post

 

More precisely, administrators of large organizations like American Red Cross and State of North Carolina which use Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Office 365 can set an option which prefixes the subject with with "[EXTERNAL]" when at least one of the addressees is outside the enterprise. This cautions other internal recipients to be careful what they write in a "Reply All" message.


Re: #transfer Waiting since Oct 31 for iGroups.io to accept invitation to join Yahoo Group evonline2002_webheads #transfer

 

Thanks Bruce,

I'm not sure what happened the first time but this time my YGroup is listed,?

I sent what I hope is my last invitation to [email protected] and when I click on Update Transfer I now see
We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.

Ok, back to being patient again, but at least now the system is responding as it's supposed to.

Thank you so much for your help!

Vance Stevens






On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 7:50 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 06:43 PM, Vance Stevens wrote:
I'm pretty sure I clicked to start the transfer process.
Perhaps...but based on the description you provided, you do not have one.

What should I do now? try again?
You should resume at Step 2.1 as I stated in my previous message. At that point your "Existing Transfer" list should no longer be empty.

Bruce


Re: #transfer Waiting since Oct 31 for iGroups.io to accept invitation to join Yahoo Group evonline2002_webheads #transfer

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 06:43 PM, Vance Stevens wrote:
I'm pretty sure I clicked to start the transfer process.
Perhaps...but based on the description you provided, you do not have one.

What should I do now? try again?
You should resume at Step 2.1 as I stated in my previous message. At that point your "Existing Transfer" list should no longer be empty.

Bruce


 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 06:43 PM, Scott H. wrote:
The only problem is [email protected]?is not a member of my Yahoo group yet. Not in pending and I have refreshed my members and resorted the list. The "transfer" member is not there yet. How long should it take for it to show up so I can make it a moderator an get the process moving forward? Thank you.
Scott -- This can take a day or three. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22605?for instructions.

Bruce


 

Hello,

I upgraded my group to Premium Yearly plan?and paid. I invited "[email protected]" to join my Yahoo group. It looks like I can "select your?Existing Transfer?transfer, and tell us that you are ready for the transfer to happen."

The only problem is [email protected]?is not a member of my Yahoo group yet. Not in pending and I have refreshed my members and resorted the list. The "transfer" member is not there yet. How long should it take for it to show up so I can make it a moderator an get the process moving forward? Thank you.


Scott.?


Re: #transfer Waiting since Oct 31 for iGroups.io to accept invitation to join Yahoo Group evonline2002_webheads #transfer

 

Thanks Bruce.?

I'm quite sure that I did this
You have to type in your Yahoo Group in the top box and?also?select your destination group from the pull-down menu immediately below it. At that point you should be able to click on the green "Start Group Transfer Process" button without getting an error message of some kind.?

I typed the YGroup name?evonline2002_webheads in the top box
I'm sure I entered the destination group in the bottom menu. I believe it would have been listed there and I selected it, is that correct?

I'm pretty sure I clicked to start the transfer process.

What should I do now? try again?

Please advise, and thanks
?
Vance Stevens






On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 7:30 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 06:01 PM, Vance Stevens wrote:
Dear helpful team,

Sorry about adding to the pile of similar mails but I upgraded my Yahoo Group?evonline2002_webheads to premium over a week ago, on Oct 31. I entered that group name into the step 2 field and as instructed "Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page"
Vance -- It seems we've had a miscommunication.

Did you provide a destination group? You have to type in your Yahoo Group in the top box and also select your destination group from the pull-down menu immediately below it. At that point you should be able to click on the green "Start Group Transfer Process" button without getting an error message of some kind.

I then began step 3 and all is NOT well, as there is no indication that a transfer has begin, and as it says in 3.2?If it?doesn't?say that, the invitation did not go through.?Go back to Step 3.1 above and try again.??

I did that many times in the first couple of days in Nov and then was instructed in a reply to my post at the time to NOT do that. So I tried step 4.2BE EVEN MORE PATIENT. and now 9 days have passed...?
Based on your?post of November 2, I thought you were at Step 4.?

...and this is what I see at the bottom of my?/yahootransfer?
View Existing Transfer Status: (followed by nothing - no transfers are listed)
This suggests you have no transfers in process.?No wonder your invitation hasn't been accepted.

Holder of the crown in this group since Nov 24, 2001
I hope that's a blue crown. If it's green, you're a Moderator, not an Owner.

Please re-read the detailed instructions at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22617?and resume from Step 2.1. Once a transfer is actually underway, you should be able to monitor progress using the status instructions at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Deleting old links from the Databases section of an imported Yahoo Group #database

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 06:31 PM, J. Willardston Smith wrote:

All our links are ancient.

In the Databases section, how may I:
Delete all links simultaneously?

Edit or delete links individually?

Click open the link to the database in question.

To delete a row, click the checkboxes on the left side for any rows you want to get rid of. Scroll down and click the red "Delete Rows" button at the bottom of the page.

To delete the entire table, click on the "Edit Table Properties" button at the top of the page. Scroll down to the bottom of the resulting page and click "Delete Table."

Bruce


Deleting old links from the Databases section of an imported Yahoo Group #database

 

My thanks to Groups.io for the impressive import of our Yahoo Group.? Not everything came through.? However, that was due to Yahoo-related corruptions.

I looked in vain to learn how to delete links from an imported Yahoo Group.? (My apologies if I looked for answers in the wrong places.)? The links appear in the Databases section of our new Groups.io home.

All our links are ancient.

In the Databases section, how may I:

  1. Delete all links simultaneously?

  2. Edit or delete links individually?

Thank you in advance for any insights.