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Re: Login of new member #addmembers #archive

 

The problem is closed, in fact there was a long delay for delivering the mail
Thanks to all
Serge


Re: Bouncing email address

 

Florian,

You were correct ! That residual setting in my account was so old it must have been done with a MS DOS command line ? Thanks.... Should all be fixed now.

Mike

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It looks like you have at your mailhoster setup a forward to this old address. This is not a groups.io problem, but some setting at your mail service.


Re: reply to sender/group

 

Test:
I¡¯m using the web interface on my iPad.
There are three buttons o the bottom -?
A green button with a universal ¡°reply¡± or send arrow and ¡°Reply to Group¡±
A red button with a trash can and ¡°Discard¡±
And far to he right, by itself, a transparent button with no icon and ¡°Private¡± which I presume is same as replying to sender as. A private message.?

will have to look on my laptop to see if it displays the same. I agree I hate when something meant for the group is sent privately but what I see here is pretty clear IMO.?


Patti In AZ


Re: Subgroup for Email Only #subgroups #email

 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 09:25 AM, Frances wrote:
My only suggestion - name your subgroup so it is obvious which is which. Then no Board member will post on the wrong one. See this wiki page about naming and aliases. And online, give each page a distinctive cover photo.?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups
What I mean is that "no Board member will post confidential info on the main group in error".
Subgroup members can post on the main group.

Frances
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Group already part of a transfer

 

I'll admit first off that I'm new to group management, so be prepared for some ignorance on my part.
I'm trying to transfer a group from Yahoo. I was just made owner of the group (R_and_R_engines), due to the ill health of the previous owner.
I've created a new IO group (RandREngines) and upgraded to Premium.
I've filled out the transfer request page.
The page tells me that group is already part of another transfer.
I suspect that a transfer may have been started by the previous owner, but a search in groups.io doesn't show any group with a similar name or content.
I have asked the previous owner of the Yahoo group for help, but not sure if he will be able to.

Can anyone advise me how I should find out about the 'other transfer' that my Y! group is involved in and how to resolve this situation, please?

Thanks,
Pete.


Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

Make sure to send it as "Special Notice".
Before I sent mine when I moved my groups to io, I also took everybody from "no mail" (which I didn't allow anyway, but some people don't care...) to "special notice", so that it really went to all members.
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Barbara

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:18 PM M K Ramadoss <mkr777@...> wrote:

Since YG is still operational, why not send a msg too all members to sign up at GIO.

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Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

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Johanne:

Here's what Yahoo had posted at: ?

Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites. New content can no longer be uploaded after October 28, 2019. Sending/Receiving email functionality is not going away, you can continue to communicate via any email client with your group members

My interpretation:? As of October 28th, no one would be able to upload "user created content" (meaning photos, files, links, etc.).?

After December 14, all that "user created content" will be removed/purged from Yahoogroups.

It doesn't explicitly say whether this purge includes the message archives for each group or not, so that is unclear.

Even after December 14 it sounds as if you will be able to send and receive messages via email.?

As it doesn't mention whether you can use the web interface specifically to send and receive messages the future of that feature is also unclear.?

I think it's best to assume that the message archives will be removed, and if wrong, at least you will have your messages on Groups.io (if you choose the migration option), or in PG Offline.?

HTH,

David

On 2019-11-04 08:39, Johanne Tournier wrote:

I may have this wrong, but my understanding is that they are just not accepting new "content" from users as of Oct. 28th. I think the more drastic elimination (of things like message archives?) happens on Dec. 14, 2019. If I am right in that, you should still be able to download content from Yahoogroups up to Dec. 14.

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Good luck!

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Syncing new messages from Yahoo to Groups.io after group transfer #yahoo

 

Hi Everyone,

I own a fairly large Yahoo group, and it has transferred successfully to Groups.io.

I've set the Yahoo group to require moderation of new posts for the moment.

I'd like to have new posts to Yahoo group automatically propagate to the Groups.io group until I close down the Yahoo group entirely. Is there a best practice for doing so?

I've thought of directly adding the Groups.io group address to the Yahoo group, but it looks like Yahoo is requiring a Yahoo ID for that now. I've also thought of setting up a single purpose Yahoo account as a member of both the Yahoo Group and the Groups.io group and having it automatically forward any mail from the Yahoo Group to the Groups.io group, but that obviously loses sender info and seems like a kludge.

I tried searching the wiki and past messages for this topic, but I didn't find an answer. I apologize if this has been asked, and I just plain missed the info.

All suggestions are welcome.


Re: Yahoo has now created a downloader #yahoo

 

I received the same ¡°no data¡± message.?

My son researched various downloaders on Github and used yahoo-group-archiver by ignoredambience. ?It downloaded twenty years of everything in a few hours ?(our internet isn¡¯t all it should be or would have been faster) into json files. So I have a members list to do invites, and message and photo archives and now have time to decide how to best assemble them for member access.?
if you don¡¯t have a developer in house (I¡¯m just a user) you can either let groups.io do the work (and I¡¯m pretty impressed with how they¡¯ve been responding), devote time to manually download your group¡¯s stuff - which is kind of like cleaning out the basement or looking in that old box of photos.
I had already downloaded our files manually. Yahoo¡¯s members list download limits you to 1000 entries in a cvs file and only work sin one direction. But I was able to sort backwards (alpha on email address), scroll the entries the download didn¡¯t pick up and save as a pdf. This picked up all the entries the download missed and retained the column format.

Patti in AZ



Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 09:15 AM, Derek Milliner wrote:
I'm not sure if you need just moderator or full owner permissions on the Y! group to get member's email addresses
You should only need moderator status, without any permissions.? That's all the groups.io transfer has and it works.

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Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

Since YG is still operational, why not send a msg too all members to sign up at GIO.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:05 AM Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...> wrote:

I went back and looked and, yes, there are some email addresses there, but much less than half of the total number of members. Is it likely that that many people would have chosen to hide their email addresses? I presume that might apply where members read the list messages on the Yahoogroups website, rather than by email delivery.

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I downloaded all the list messages (over 57,000 of them!), plus the list Photos and Files. I did not download ¡°Links,¡± because I presume that most of them are out of date.

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Thanks for your help!


Johanne

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Johanne L. Tournier

Email ¨C jltournier60@...

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Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

I've have the same issue with a group I'm helping to transfer.

The issue is (or appears to be) the permissions that you have in the group with your ID. The export in PGO does export the email address field, so clearly tries to download it in the first place, but as just a member I only get my own email address in the download. Probably a good test is to look and see on the Y! web login if you can access member's details; if not, then it's unlikely PGO will be able to.

I'm not sure if you need just moderator or full owner permissions on the Y! group to get member's email addresses, I'm waiting for the group's owner to promote my membership so's I can test this.?


Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

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Gerald:

I would concur. I was having a problem with making Groups.io a moderator until I logged out, logged back in and instead of the "I'll do this later" when ahead and accepted the "Oath".....?

David

On 2019-11-04 08:40, Gerald Boutin wrote:

However, I suspect you also must have gone through the "Oath" acceptance.
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Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

I went back and looked and, yes, there are some email addresses there, but much less than half of the total number of members. Is it likely that that many people would have chosen to hide their email addresses? I presume that might apply where members read the list messages on the Yahoogroups website, rather than by email delivery.

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I downloaded all the list messages (over 57,000 of them!), plus the list Photos and Files. I did not download ¡°Links,¡± because I presume that most of them are out of date.

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Thanks for your help!


Johanne

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Johanne L. Tournier

Email ¨C jltournier60@...

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Sorry to jump in.
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In YG, there was a feature to use yahoo id and hide your real email. If a member has chosen to do this, only a moderator or owner can see the real email address. This may be the issue with PG not seeing email addresses.
Did you download the entire YG using PG and see if you could export member email listings.


Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

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Johanne:

The information I provided earlier (for use in PG Offline) does result in both the username and email address in the export file. However, this is only done if?the Yahoogroups username and password you used in PG Offline?is?the same as an owner and/or moderator of that forum/group. If you aren't sure if you are an owner or moderator, log-in to Yahoogroups main page (where all your groups are listed - probably??) and look to see if there is a Blue or Green "crown" icon in the "Manage my Groups" column.?

I tried downloading the member list for a number of?other Yahoogroups in which I participate (those where I am not a moderator or owner), and ended up with what you described, just a list of usernames, without email addresses.?

You might want to verify that Yahoogroups sees you as a moderator for that group (green crown).? If not, you could try sending a note on the old Yahoogroup interface asking for anyone who still is listed as a moderator for the old Yahoogroup to help.?

HTH

David

On 2019-11-04 08:32, Johanne Tournier wrote:

Hi, David ¨C

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I very much appreciate this info, because I am a co-moderator of a list in which the current owner of the new list has been removed for some reason from the Yahoogroup. Since neither of the current co-moderators of the groups.io group were moderators of the Yahoogroup, we do not have access to the members list of the Yahoogroup,, and obviously we would like to send invite messages to all of them to join us over here at groups.io.

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So I followed your instructions (I thought). I got a members list ¨C but I only see the Yahoogroups user names; there are no email addresses. Since you didn't specify, I went ahead and exported the 892 members to an export file. What I found was that it (automatically?) converted to an Excel file (on a spreadsheet form, in other words), but again, there are only Yahoo user names without email addresses.

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Can you help me so that I can download both the user names and email addresses and possibly the real names as well?

?

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Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

Gerald Boutin
 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:38 AM, Duane wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 08:35 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Wasn't the deadline to get all that stuff the 28th?
No, that's when YG quit adding things to the storage.? All items should be available for download until December 14.

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Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

Sorry to jump in.
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In YG, there was a feature to use yahoo id and hide your real email. If a member has chosen to do this, only a moderator or owner can see the real email address. This may be the issue with PG not seeing email addresses.
Did you download the entire YG using PG and see if you could export member email listings.
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 8:35 AM Johanne Tournier <jltournier60@...> wrote:

Hi, David ¨C

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I very much appreciate this info, because I am a co-moderator of a list in which the current owner of the new list has been removed for some reason from the Yahoogroup. Since neither of the current co-moderators of the group were moderators of the Yahoogroup, we do not have access to the members list of the Yahoogroup,, and obviously we would like to send invite messages to all of them to join us over here at .

?

So I followed your instructions (I thought). I got a members list ¨C but I only see the Yahoogroups user names; there are no email addresses. Since you didn¡¯t specify, I went ahead and exported the 892 members to an export file. What I found was that it (automatically?) converted to an Excel file (on a spreadsheet form, in other words), but again, there are only Yahoo user names without email addresses.

?

Can you help me so that I can download both the user names and email addresses and possibly the real names as well?

?

Thanks for any help you can give!

?

Johanne

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Johanne L. Tournier

Email ¨C jltournier60@...

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Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

Gerald Boutin
 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 09:55 AM, Susan B wrote:
Shal
I got that same message saying no data available from yahoo and wondered if it¡¯s because my email address for groups i joined is different from my yahoo accoint email address. What do you think?

Susan B
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Susan,

In order to download your groups' data, you must be logged into Yahoo using the Yahoo account that can see all of your Yahoo groups. It doesn't matter which email addresses you have defined for the individual group "Identity".

However, I suspect you also must have gone through the "Oath" acceptance.


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Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

I may have this wrong, but my understanding is that they are just not accepting new ¡°content¡± from users as of Oct. 28th. I think the more drastic elimination (of things like message archives?) happens on Dec. 14, 2019. If I am right in that, you should still be able to download content from Yahoogroups up to Dec. 14.

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Good luck!

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Johanne

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Johanne L. Tournier

Email ¨C jltournier60@...

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Re: Yahoogroups claims I have no data???

 

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 08:35 AM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:
Wasn't the deadline to get all that stuff the 28th?
No, that's when YG quit adding things to the storage.? All items should be available for download until December 14.

Duane
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