Re: I Can't Get My Group To Begin Transfer From Yahoogroups

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:31 PM, CVActor wrote:

But now I can't make [email protected] a moderator, because the address comes up invalid. Also, the address is not listed as a member, and I can't add it, because it also comes up as invalid. I have tried writing to support - NO ANSWER. Will someone PLEASE help me to get my yahoogroup into the transfer group before the WHOLE THING DISAPPEARS?

Cindy -- As Jules said, you have to go to your YAHOO GROUP and promote the agent to a Moderator there.

Note that this requires you to be an Owner of the Yahoo Group, or a Moderator with special permissions.

Full instructions with screenshots at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/20713

Trying to add the transfer agent to your GIO group will not work.

Regards,
Bruce

Re: Chat issues with Chrome Web Browser

#22047

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:49 PM, Frank wrote:

Could you explain what is the reason why does not work in Chrome? Has anybody else encountered this problem?

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Chat-Overview

Regards,
Bruce

Re: "Average Pace" of transfers

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:22 PM, kruffing wrote:

I'm a data buff, when things quiet down I hope the GIO staff publish a cool table or graph about the volume of transfers they midwifed in October-December 2019.

Yeah, I'd enjoy seeing something like that as well.? Maybe include other info, such as number of members, messages, files, etc, but that info may not be available.? Might be a good question for support in January.? After doing a bit of snooping on the site, I know that at least 2250 groups have been transferred, but not how many of those were recent.

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Re: "Average Pace" of transfers

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Thanks, Ray, for sharing your saga; it looks like you're on track to complete the transfer tomorrow or Monday, congratulations!

I agree you must've barely beat a deluge (and I didn't) on or about Oct. 20.? The price increase from $110 to $220 for premium, I think, happened on Oct. 22 and surely reflected the staggering workload.? I can't recall when the $200 "expedite" option became available.

I'm a data buff, when things quiet down I hope the GIO staff publish a cool table or graph about the volume of transfers they midwifed in October-December 2019.? I assume that right now they don't have much time even to eat or shower.

Re: current turnaround for invitation approval? #invitation

#22044

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:36 PM, JJ Krawczyk wrote:

That's it.? Thank you!

I haven't done it, but it IS the weekend.? Probably won't make a lot of difference, but something to be aware of.

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Re: Help! Problem migrating Yahoo group to Groups.io #transfer

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:51 PM, Nawdry wrote:

However, my Yahoo group no longer seems able to send invitations. I get the following error message:

??? Moderator can't invite or add new members

Apparently I cannot proceed with Group.io's migration process following this procedure. Please help me continue to proceed with this migration.

You may get your "power" back.? Yahoo has been doing many strange things recently.? One person has a suggestion that may possibly work, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/21985? If that doesn't work, you can see if another moderator on the YG can do it or upgrade your permissions so you can send invitations (and promote transfer to a moderator.)? The inviter/promoter doesn't need to be the same person doing the transfer.

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Re: Following the YahooGroup transfer steps #transfer

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Will it cause a problem that I've made?[email protected]?a moderator before receiving the email notification that the invitation has been accepted?

I doubt that it will be a problem.

That being said, the advice from everyone is to go step by step.

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Following the YahooGroup transfer steps #transfer

#22041

So after issuing the invitation to [email protected]?to join the YahooGroup that I'm transferring, I see the invitation has been accepted and have promoted that address to moderator status on the old group. I have not however received an email from groups.io notifying me that the invitation has been accepted. When I go to the transfer page, it still says "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon..."? Will it cause a problem that I've made [email protected]?a moderator before receiving the email notification that the invitation has been accepted?

Hope that's clear.

thanks,
Katie

Re: #subgroups Can I create an Invisible Subgroup? #subgroups

#22040

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:35 PM, Bee wrote:

Can I do this? ? If so - how??

Probably.? Under the Admin menu on the left, after dropping it down, click Subgroups.? On the page that opens, select Create Subgroup at the top.? After entering the other information, select "Subgroup not listed in parent group, messages viewable by subgroup members only" in the Visibility area.? I haven't tried it, but that should do what you want.? You'd need to do the rest of the setup after creating it.

Keep in mind that creating a subgroup changes the addressing of the main group, so members may be aware that one exists, but won't be able to find it unless they know the name.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup for additional information.

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Re: "Average Pace" of transfers

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Hi.? I almost feel guilty at posting this.? I have a medium sized group (~2,100 members, 80,000+ messages over 18 years), which we probably should have ported to groups.io long ago.? However, I started the transfer process just one day ahead of 'kruffing's' group below, and yet managed to secure a position much higher up the queue.? There must have been a huge influx of new transfer requests just on Sunday 10/20 alone.? Anyway, here's our brief pathway so far:

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Sat 10/19 - Created new group, obtained approval, paid $110 to upgrade to premium for one year, and intitiated transfer process.
Sun 10/20 - Invitation to [email protected] to join YG was accepted.? Did not have authority to promote to Moderator (grrr!).
Tue 10/22 - Finally reached YG owner and was able to promote [email protected] to Moderator.? Gave green light for transfer to proceed.
Wed 10/23 - Reached Step 3 of 4, meaning our Yahoo content had been exported, and was awaiting import to GIO.? Position #370 in the queue.
Tue 10/29 - position #126
Thu 10/31 - position #70
Sat 11/02 - position #38

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I haven't been recording our position number every day, but three times I have seen it increase, instead of decrease.? Overall, it has taken about 10 days to progress 332 positions, without paying the extra $200.

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Ray.

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Sent:?Saturday, November 02, 2019 at 12:15 PM
From:?"kruffing via Groups.Io" <kruffing@...>
To:[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [GMF] "Average Pace" of transfers

20 to 30 a day seems a rough rule of thumb.? It's hard to gauge without knowing how many group owners are paying $200 to leapfrog the queue.? I didn't, and my little group's saga is below.

My understanding is that GIO "harvested" all material from our Yahoo site at Step 2, so any new material posted there won't be transferred.? That's okay.? Whenever I post I make sure to send it to both Groupname@...?and [email protected].? (Those are fake names, don't use 'em.)? And if another member posts and omits one or the other address, I send a perfunctory reply and make sure to send it to both.? It's a pain but tolerable.? My annoyance is confined to a perfidious Yahoo, not to the dedicated GIO team!

Sat 10/19/2019 Alerted members of my group about Yahoo’s plans and discussed options (Google groups. Groups.io, Facebook, plain email, dissolution).? People liked my description of Groups.io especially the ability to preserve ten years’ worth of content.

Sun 10/20/2019 Created group at Groups.io.? Signed up for Premium and paid $110 (which doubled two days later).? Sent invitation for [email protected] to join our Yahoo group.? Heard nothing.

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Thur 10/24/2019 Sent a second invitation to [email protected].

Fri 10/25/2019 Invitation was finally accepted.? (Whether it was Sunday’s or Thursday’s, I don’t know.)? I swiftly upgraded [email protected] to moderator and gave the go-ahead for transfer.

Sat 10/26/2019

Sun 10/27/2019 Finally progressed to step 3 of 4.? Place in queue #644.

Mon 10/28/2019 #633.

Tue 10/29/2019 #618.

Wed 10/30/2019 #584.

Thur 10/31/2019 #553.? "The pace does seem to be picking up but we’re still looking at 2-4 more weeks if this continues."

Fri 11/1/2019 #543

Sat 11/2/2019 #521

(Caveat:? I didn't necessarily sample these at the same time of day, so interpret 'em accordingly.)

Help! Problem migrating Yahoo group to Groups.io #transfer

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Help!

My newly created group is LRPPro (/g/LRPPro). I recently upgraded to Premium to be able to migrate LRPPro from Yahoo () to Groups.io.

I started the automated migration process, but this stalled at the point where you have to send an invitation to [email protected]. The process requires that this invitation be sent, you wait to receive it, then proceed. However, my Yahoo group no longer seems able to send invitations. I get the following error message:

??? Moderator can't invite or add new members

Apparently I cannot proceed with Group.io's migration process following this procedure. Please help me continue to proceed with this migration.

Thanks — Lyndon

Chat issues with Chrome Web Browser

#22037

Dear all,

We have been setting up a new group in order to transfer from Yahoo to Groups.io. We have been testing and learning all the features and we found very interesting the chat feature. We have tried to set up new chats and we succeded. However, when my colleague subscribed and we tried to chat, nothing appeared in chat. We tried several times and open several chats and nothing happened.

Today I was trying again and suddenly I thought of testing it with another web browser. IE from Windows 10. It worked perfect. No problem at all.

Could you explain what is the reason why does not work in Chrome? Has anybody else encountered this problem?

We would very much appreciate any help that you can give us since the majority of our members use Chrome.

Thank you very much

Frank?

Re: New Group Settings

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 05:35 PM,I wrote:

I suggest that you communicate with your members again...

Further to that you could try suggesting to those with btinternet email addresses that they send to any address with a "+" in it from BT's webmail UI, not their email client. I know that might be an ask too far for some but it does get around the problem of emails being misrouted when sent from a client.

If you have a Pending Subsciption message set up, responding to that definitely does involve a +owner message that will go astray and frustrate the joining process. Signing up for an account or subscription does require confirmation emails between the applicants and Groups.io and I simply cannot recall if any of those have any + signs in them. As you have invited people you could really turn the Pending Subscription message off, at least pro tem.

Chris

Re: Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:42 PM, JJ Krawczyk wrote:

I have a glob waiting for approval and those do not seem to show up anywhere yet. It would be nice if they could be in the same place with a "waiting approval" status but I believe they'll show up there once they are approved and go out.

True, that would be nice. That anomaly is because of the limiter on number of invitations sent at one time. You can input a lot more and you must wait. See this for more details and a link to a post about why.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/20-Invitations-Limit

Frances

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Re: "Average Pace" of transfers

John B

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I'm seeing between 16 and 32 groups per day over the past few days.? Thursday and Friday were at the high end.? Today is slower.? I'm around #200 in the queue.

Might depend on group size (# messages, photos, etc.), whether a human is needed to do stuff, how many are paying $200 for priority, etc.

Re: Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

#22033

Yes Groups.io allows you to track whom you have invited.?
In Admin, Invites. Two tabs - an invitation to be sent with a customizable section and the second tab is Sent Invitations.
Email addresses, date sent, status. Sortable list.
You can resend from here as well using the Actions toggle.
Cancel / Remove Invite is a bit cryptic (to my mind). You can remove the Invite but it doesn't remove their membership. It is just to tidy up the list.

See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Inviting-new-members

Frances

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Re: Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

#22032

I've only sent one invitation (as a test) which was accepted and it still shows up under Invite -> Sent Invitations (with a status of accepted).

I have a glob waiting for approval and those do not seem to show up anywhere yet. It would be nice if they could be in the same place with a "waiting approval" status but I believe they'll show up there once they are approved and go out.

Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

#22031

Just wondering, 'cause I actually haven't sent any yet.? (My group is at Stage 3 of 4 in the transfer; a few dozen members have signed up at GIO; the rest are awaiting automatic transfer; that's okay, I can be patient.)

When you send an invitation to join a Yahoo group it just sorta disappears into the ether.? You'll see the feeble confirmation that "You can sent 99 more invitations today" (or whatever), but you have no record of to whom invitations were sent and when.

Does GIO keep better track? That's a feature I'd really value.

current turnaround for invitation approval? #invitation

#22030

I sent 600+ invitations this morning and as it has been a little longer than "a few hours" (as I've seen quoted in other messages here), I was wondering if anyone else who recently required invite approval could tell me how long it took.

That's it.? Thank you!

JJ Krawczyk

Re: I Can't Get My Group To Begin Transfer From Yahoogroups

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In your Yahoo Group, After you click on Management,?
Then Manage Members,
Then Join to sort by join date
You should see Groupsio at or near the top of the list
Click on them to bring up the Edit Member popup and change them to a Moderator.

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