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On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 04:55 PM, Diane wrote:

I paid on Oct 18th and haven’t heard anything yet, if that helps.

Diane -- What else have you done? Simply paying will not get your group transferred.

Bruce

As of this date, using PGO, if you want to download everything from YG you will have to accept the )(*& oath click.? It took me 2 days of trying to get around it and as soon as I took the Devil's click I could go in and down load 7 different groups.? OK with me because come the 1st of January I am deleting all yahoo accounts and the Devil's oath.? I could access YG using PGO but it is YG that is blocking the downloads, not PGO.? That is YG is blocking access using a download program since they know what is going on now.? Just to log into YG and manage accounts on line, I have been delaying the Devil's oath since it first started and I have had to manage the YG accounts daily since 2001.

Today, using PB Offline I downloaded 50,000+ messages, but cannot find a way to save them to my hard drive. I still have the app open, I did not want to close it in case all the messages disappeared.
Any suggestions and help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance Peter B.

The subgroup actually shows up. The main group does not. I changed the email from main@aah-announce?to aah-announce@aah?. That aah domain name does not exist and the group doesn't show up now.

-Betsy

Only one transfer and it hasn't started because I can't make ([email protected]) a moderator.

I think the question is (at least for me) - how soon before we get the notification to give the go-ahead? That’s for when io accepts the member request at Yahoo right?

Diane

Art, it might be easier to answer just subgroup questions here. Your other questions have been talked about recently, except for the lock on Yahoo account and when will Yahoo actually delete files. You might try?/g/IHateYahooGroups/topics

As far as subgroups are concerned, have you looked at the wiki?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup
and
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups

You asked:


FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups
GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

There is a little bit in this guide to group formation:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

• can be sent automatically on the first of each month as a message to the group, with an option to include members subscribed via Special Notices Only
• As each new month is issued, the old one can be automatically deleted from the group (so there aren't several versions there) if you set the #Guidelines hashtag to one month duration. ?You can also set the hashtag to Locked, further down the page on the hashtag definition so that no one can reply to it. ?If the hashtag doesn't exist, it will be created the first time they get sent or you can create it ahead of time to adjust settings.
• can be sent automatically to all new group members
• can be sent manually by a moderator to a group member at any time, in case the member needs a review of the guidelines
• appears under its own "Guidelines" tab at left on the group’s pages, with an option to be visible either by group members only or by the public
• For more information, see the Help pages.?/static/help#membernotices
  
  The other page on the wiki has examples -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Rules

Frances
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FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups
GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

I actually meant in the GMF Wiki. There is a link on the main page for "Member Notices", but the linked document doesn't say anything about Group Guidelines.

Thanks,
Su

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Questions, questions, questions! Yahoo set off a Tsunami. Hopefully, these won't be too much. to get answered

I just created a parent group and plan on migrating ~seven subgroups from Yahoo. There are about 8000 member entries but, excluding overlap, only about 3000 unique members, 75,000 messages and 20MB in about 130 files - no photos, attachments or databases.

Transfer
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Do I need to create subgroups with identical names or will the transfer automatically create subgroups?
Are subgroup memberships automatically transferred or do they have to be confirmed?
After the bulk transfer, can late poster and straggler info be transferred?
About how long will the actual transfer take? From request to initiation?
Does anyone know if we can put a lock on the Yahoo message boards after the transfer?
Does anyone happen to know if Yahoo will be deleting their message archives on Oct 28 or the Dec date?
After the bulk transfer, can the subgroup names be changed?

Features
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Are features such as Wikis and Databases on a subgroup or parent group basis?
Are they limited to one per group/subgroup or can multiple such objects be created?
Are they globally accessible or only from and within the associated subgroup?
Are settings unique and independent for each subgroup?
Conceptually, are subgroups unique and independent groups except for the parent group requirement?
Can I define an identifying string for each subgroup to prepend to a post's subject?
For example [xyz-abc], [xyz-def], [xyz-ghi] for three different subgroups?
If so, do the strings have to match the subgroup names?

Thank you for your assistance.

Namaste', Art

I currently run the Antique Pattern Library (group and website). If you can find an image on our website ?that appeals to you, let me know. Nearly all are free for noncommercial use. We watermark them but for a cover image I can share one without watermark.
Best wishes,
Sytske Wijnsma
Library Director of the Antique Pattern Library, a project of New Media Arts Inc., a charity registered in the USA.

Hi

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FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups
GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

Hello,

I paid on Oct 18th and haven’t heard anything yet, if that helps.

Diane

Thanks, Frances! Yes -- the Message History now shows up. (I was afraid I was supposed to add something to my home page that I hadn't).

Linda

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 04:44 PM, Edward Borg wrote:

How can I get an "easy group transfer" email which tells me to make the ([email protected]) a moderator of my Yahoo group to start the transfer process if I never invited to the group to join?

Edward -- Do you have more than one transfer in progress??You've chosen to redact the group names from your screenshots so I can't check those to see if it's a problem there. Rather than continue to spin your wheels, it could be that you'd be ahead of the game to just delete the existing transfer and start over.

Regards,
Bruce

Chris;

How can I get an "easy group transfer" email which tells me to make the ([email protected]) a moderator of my Yahoo group to start the transfer process if I never invited to the group to join?

Duane;

That is what I'm trying to do is save my YG data!
Over 15 years of group messages!

Duane,

I did go ahead and post my plea again on beta. It was still on moderation but Mark approved it and replied that he had fixed the bug. The pricing plan for the main group now properly "trickles down" to all its subgroups and I am now able to continue the transfer process for the subgroups. Presumably this bug fix will benefit others who took the same set of steps as I did to upgrade from Premium Monthly to Premium Yearly.

Robert R.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 08:49 PM, Duane wrote:

Sounds to me like you haven't invited that address to that group.

Edward; I was coming to the same conclusion as Duane. In your previous message (the one to which Duane responded) you also wrote: I even checked the moderator & member activity logs and don't see any mention of a [email protected].

Now if that statement is true then [email protected] was never even invited to the group in question. I know this sounds like a very silly question but are you absolutely certain that you haven't mixed up one group with another? The point here is that if the transfer agent was invited and accepted that invitation and so on there would be more than one piece of evidence of all that having happened, not just a single piece in one place. It would take quite a bit of effort for someone to remove all evidence of all that having happened.

Time for a few deep breaths and a slow and careful reassessment of what you reckon has been done and where.

Chris

Currently Premium lists can collect donations from members for the Premium cost.
When free lists were confronted with a required upgrade to Premium if they had 500+ members,
there was not an equivalent method for free lists to accept donations to pay for the upgrade.
Doubling the Premium list cost at the same time increased the need to accept donations.

This issue is not dead, only delayed.? Before the policy? is changed again, free lists should be able to
collect donations before they have to pay for a Premium list.
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