On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:43 PM, Jane Valencia wrote:

1) Is it possible to move a yahoo group directly to the subgroup? I understand that they will be members of the main group too. Or does the group get transferred to the main group and I (or they) subscribe them to the subgroup?

2) What happens with this list's archived info? Can it go directly under the sub group and not be mixed in with the main group's archive (my ideal)?

3) If there's a way to transfer the second Yahoo Group directly to the subgroup, we're not seeing how to do it via the "Easy Transfer .." pages. Can someone walk me through this?

1) The second group would be transferred directly to the subgroup.? All members there would be added to the main group and the subgroup.? They'd be added to the subgroup, but not the main group if they're already members from your first transfer.)

2) Whatever you choose as part of what's transferred, they'll be put into the subgroup.

3) On the transfer page, enter the subgroup name as the destination instead of the main group.

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You might try sending a message directly to the address. Sometimes
message from Groups.io can end up in someone's spam folder or be
ignored. I try resending the confirmation email a couple of times. I
can't recall there is an error message in the Email Activity messages if
this bounces. If there is a typo then sending a message directly will
let you know. If it doesn't bounce then it may be that the person
doesn't realize they have to confirm their address and are ignoring the
messages. I've sometimes had to remind people several times, directly,
to respond to one of the confirmation messages. Here is my routine
dealing with this.

- Resend the confirmation email a few times

- At that point send an email directly to their address.

- If this email bounces remove them from the list.

- If it doesn't bounce leave them on the list and wait for their response.

- Try again a few times and then remove them from the list and send them
an invitation to join the list.

They won't have to confirm their address with an invitation, since
they will respond to the invitation in order to accept it and that will
confirm that it was the correct address.

Jonathan

Thanks, Larry. That will be a useful template when the transfer is complete for my group.

Mark Karney? N9JWF
Listowner [email protected]

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:40 PM, Rail Scan wrote:

Does the [email protected] address generate any sort of acknowledgement

It used to send an automated reply, but that's been delayed a bit (up to 2 days in one case that I'm aware of) recently.? I think some of it is from the extra load of transfers, but that's just a personal guess.

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Hello,
I successfully moved a Yahoo group here to groups.io. Now I want to move another Yahoo group over to become a sub group.
Two questions:

1) Is it possible to move a yahoo group directly to the subgroup? I understand that they will be members of the main group too. Or does the group get transferred to the main group and I (or they) subscribe them to the subgroup?

2) What happens with this list's archived info? Can it go directly under the sub group and not be mixed in with the main group's archive (my ideal)?

3) If there's a way to transfer the second Yahoo Group directly to the subgroup, we're not seeing how to do it via the "Easy Transfer .." pages. Can someone walk me through this?

Basically I'd love for this second Yahoo group to be self-contained as as a sub group, as much as possible. Just wondering what I'm able to do.

Thank you!
Jane

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:07 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

I encourage you to complete registration of yourself at groups.io by entering your email address and selecting a personal password at this website:

/register

I'd change that to include instructions for logging in without a password - /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-in-and-How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password? They've already been registered and have an account if you transfer the group from Yahoo.

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It is a few years, definitely at least 3 or 4, that a friend and I tried to get yahoo to elevate my friend (who was a moderator) to owner and me to co-owner as new membership applications had to be approved and she couldn’t do it. ?The owner had gone missing and totally ignored any attempts to get in touch with her.

Hi All,
My first day posting here. Does the [email protected] address generate any sort of acknowledgement indicating mail sent there was successfully receiveed and in queue for an eventual response? I wrote approx 18 hours ago about a free to premium upgrade failure and am not sure what type of response to expect during this busy time.

Thanks,
Charlie

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:08 PM, KATHLEEN DESMAISONS wrote:

when we make [email protected]?a moderator do we need to set the privileges in any particular way?

No.? As a matter of fact, it doesn't need any privileges/permissions.

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:07 PM, Patty Halverson wrote:

One member shows NC behind their name.

Once in awhile someone makes a typo on their email address, so the Confirmation Email doesn't actually go to a real address.? I resend the notice once, then wait a week.? If it gets confirmed, all is well.? If it doesn't, I assume it was a typo and remove it.? I do have a Removed Member notice set up that says, "Your email address hasn't been confirmed, so you've been removed from the group.? You may rejoin, but be sure to click on the link in the email you receive from Groups.io to confirm your email address." just in case they've overlooked it.

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:04 PM, Bob Krampetz wrote:

I've always considered a USER NAME is what you use LOG INTO a service,? a DISPLAY NAME is what shows on your email

In ancient times (5 years ago) there was a use for User Name here.? That use was removed, mostly for privacy reasons.? Since the Display Name was well established, it was left alone and has become the default.

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Folks -- Appended below is the latest from Mark on the groups.io pricing structure.

Bottom line: the requirements for a Basic group will remain unchanged for now.

Bruce

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Hi All,

That's normal. Sometimes it takt up to two days till a massage goes trough.

Isidro

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I know Cynthia, I am a little nervous. I sent the invitation 5 or 6 days ago and paid for the premium membership 2-3 days ago. Still nothing, and getting nervous as we get closer to Oct 28. I have over 10,000 members on my list and don't want to lose them.

Susan P

We're all having sleepless nights for sure!!!

In reading all the posts in this and the beta forum everyone is doing the best they can and it's great to people being so civil despite such a horrible moment in internet history... And how many of us are so busy rescuing the most important stuff that we've barely had a chance to warn everyone else? Hard times! More sleepless nights to come!

I feel so awful for so much that's going to be lost, especially among our elders who have already passed on who's only record of their online writings are going to be in these yahogroups emails... And all the pet and people adoption groups, the genealogy groups... It's like bulldozing a one-of-a-kind library without taking the books out first.

At some point we need online data protection laws so the cost of deleting decades of archives after a merger is way, way more expensive than maintaining them.

I've no doubt that scholars, researchers and historians will be referencing this event for many decades to come!

Be well, Deane

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 03:15 PM, Deborah Cohen wrote:

in we can send emails from both primary and secondary addresses, but group emails are only delivered to the primary email address. Do I have that right?

Yes, that's exactly right.

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re #15- when we make [email protected]?a moderator do we need to set the privileges in any particular way?

thank you for the updated instructions. They are very clear.

Kathleen

On Oct 22, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Deborah Cohen <debcohen2nd@...> wrote:

On Oct 22 at 12:49 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:

Admin > Settings
Click on "Member Notices" button near the top of the page
Then click on "+New Notice"
Use the "Notice Type" dropdown menu to select the type of notice
Edit message
Make sure the "Active Message" box is checked
Click on "Add Notice" at bottom of the page

Before I read these instructions I just clicked on the default Welcome message and customized it. I didn't add and activate an entirely new Welcome notification. Have I screwed up?

No, you didn't.
You customized a section of the default Welcome message, which is fine.

If you also want you own Welcome message(s) and/or other types of automated messages, follow the instructions above and explore the different "Notice Types".

What I wrote in this case is not appropriate for general use. What I wrote is highly focused on a particular group and its transfer issues. Below is a more general message I've also used on some Groups I've transferred:

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I have completed the transfer of ##### at yahoogroups.com to the new ##### groups.io email reflector and Group website.

All the existing Yahoo Group membership names, messages, photos and files transferred successfully to the new club groups.io Group. You should have received an email from groups.io welcoming you to the new Group address.

To send messages to your club members using the new Group, use this email address:

#####@groups.io

Please add the above address to your email addressbook and delete the old #####@yahoogroups.com entry.

The new Group has a club Group website just as did the old Yahoo Group. Here is the new ##### Group website address:

/g/#####

I recommend you add this web address to your browser bookmarks.

The functionality of the new Group is essentially identical to that of the old, about to vanish, Yahoo Group. You are still allowed to have attachments to your postings, though attached pictures will be resized to no more than ##### x ##### pixels. This is to conserve space on the groups.io server so we don't exceed the free Group service limit of 1GB of storage.

Yahoo membership is no longer required to visit the ##### Group website.

I encourage you to complete registration of yourself at groups.io by entering your email address and selecting a personal password at this website:

/register

Registration is free and this is a secure https website. As a result of the transfer process, you are already registered at groups.io but you have no password saved and cannot access some Group features. Be sure to use the same email address you used for #####@yahoogroups.com.

Yahoo will shortly delete all our pictures and files. But, all these photos and files have already been transferred to the new groups.io club Group website.

Please complete registration at groups.io, look around at the photos and files that transferred and ask if you have questions.
...........

I sent this message to the members at the old Yahoo Group. With some editing that message may be helpful.

Larry

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