Link to a file embedded in email?
I use an automated email service in addition to groups.io. ?In my messages, I provide a link to a schedule for upcoming meetings that the members must be able to access, preferably with a click. Currently, I use dropbox to hold this file. If I keep the file in the groups.io file area, can it provide me with a link that members can use to get right to the file? I'm trying to avoid making them go to their groups.io account - I want it to be one step. Hope this makes sense. Thanks!
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Re: How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
#howtoguide
Thanks Shal. ?I confirmed that it is easy to insert an image IF you are using the HTML post preference. Looks like it is not possible with Markdown preference. I have submitted a request to beta.groups.io to add this tool, and others, to the Markdown toolbar:
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Re: Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar
#suggestion
I have submitted a request to the beta.groups.io:
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Re: Request: Add Code Block to HTML Toolbar
#suggestion
Per @Shal's suggestion, I have submitted this request to the beta.groups.io:
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Re: Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar
#suggestion
JMichaelTX, Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar I'm not sure Markdown can do all of those things. On the other hand, if you're going to ask, ask big. Something like the GitHub formatting toolbar could be useful (GitHub is relevant because it is cited as being a reference for Groups.io's implementation of Markdown). Of particular importance is the "Insert Image" tool/button.
*Currently there is NO way to do this when in Markdown Mode.* Notably absent from the GitHub example is an Image button. I don't know how difficult that is to implement. At some point the question becomes: if you want a WYSIWYG editor, why are you working in Markdown? I think the answer, for you, is covered by your other message: to get a feature not currently implemented for the HTML editor. Shal
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Request: Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar
#suggestion
Request: ?Add All HTML Tools/Buttons to Markdown Mode Toolbar
The Toolbar while in Markdown Mode is woefully inadequate. ?It has only one tool/button: ?Add Attachment.
Screenshot of Markdown Toolbar:
Whereas the HTML Toolbar is very full-featured: ?Screenshot:
Of particular importance is the "Insert Image" tool/button. ?Currently there is NO way to do this when in Markdown Mode.
As a bare minimum, please add the "Insert Image" tool/button/action to the Markdown Toolbar.
Thanks.
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Please add a tool/button to insert a Code Block with syntax highlighting to the Toolbar in HTML Mode.
This feature exists when in Markdown Mode, but not when in HTML Mode. In Markdown mode, like many other web sites/forums, including GitHub, you can type the following to setup a Code Block:
```applescript
on getContactEMail(pContactName)
??
? try
? ? tell application "Contacts" to set emailStr to (value of email of first person whose name is pContactName) as text
? on error
? ? set emailStr to "[ERROR] Contact Not Found: " & pContactName
? end try
??
? return emailStr
??
end getContactEMail
?
```
This would produce syntax coloring like this:
This is very important to groups.io groups that are centered around coding/scripting.
The Markdown toolbar is near non-existent, so we need the HTML Mode/Toolbar for important stuff like inserting images, and ease of use.
Thanks.
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Re: How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
#howtoguide
JMichaelTX, Request: How do we get the HTML toolbar/functions/actions added to
the Markdown toolbar? I suggest posting a message on the beta group. It could be very much like what you just posted - I think the explanatory screenshots are excellent. GMF is a user-to-user group, with no known involvement by anyone at Groups.io. The beta group is the official "suggestions box" for improvements to the Groups.io service. Shal GMF Owner
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Re: How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
#howtoguide
Frances,
Of course, the photo icon (or "Add Pictures" button) is available ONLY when in HTML mode.
Drag/Drop does not work for me either in HTML mode.
I
find it easy to attach photos by browsing and attaching using the photo icon, but I find it hard to drag and drop using MacOS.?
Has
anyone had any luck with that? It might just be that I am not doing it right, of course!
Frances
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Re: How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
#howtoguide
Shal,
Thanks for the reply. ?I thought I'd try an email reply to see if that makes it easier to include images in a post.
I do?have my preference set to "Markdown". ?This is required in order to be able to code block with syntax highlighting. ?All of my groups.io forums (except this one) are about scripting/coding, code blocks are very important and frequently used.
Here's the no-toolbar "toolbar" shown when "Markdown" is set a preference:
(screenshot of Markdown toolbar)
and when HTML is the Preference:
(screenshot of HTML toolbar)
I tried the "Attachment" tool on the Markdown toolbar, and it did allow me to upload an image, but it does NOT display the image inline with the post text. ?This makes it much less effective.
Request: ?How do we get the HTML toolbar/functions/actions added to the Markdown toolbar?
JMichaelTX,
>?????? How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
You apparently have your Post Preference set to Markdown. I'm not sure
how to do that in Groups.io's flavor of Markdown, or if you can. There's
a link to follow which should lead you to some instructions.
If your Post Preference was set to HTML you'd click on the "Add Picture"
button, then drag-and-drop or Browse to the file.
Shal
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Re: How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
#howtoguide
I find it easy to attach photos by browsing and attaching using the photo icon, but I find it hard to drag and drop using MacOS.?
Has anyone had any luck with that? It might just be that I am not doing it right, of course!
Frances
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Re: seeing past members (premium groups)
Sara, Are you saying you want to view what other groups a person who isn't
a member of your group belongs to or ever belonged to? I thought it was pretty clear that J was talking about activity in her group, by a former member of that group. The same information a moderator could see before the member left. Shal
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Re: How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
#howtoguide
JMichaelTX, How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post? You apparently have your Post Preference set to Markdown. I'm not sure how to do that in Groups.io's flavor of Markdown, or if you can. There's a link to follow which should lead you to some instructions. If your Post Preference was set to HTML you'd click on the "Add Picture" button, then drag-and-drop or Browse to the file. Shal
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Re: seeing past members (premium groups)
Are you saying you want to view what other groups a person who isn't a member of your group belongs to or ever belonged to?
If yes, then that's pretty intrusive.?
Sara
On Jul 15, 2017 4:47 PM, "J_Catlady" < j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: Mark announced awhile back that he would include a feature that allows premium groups to maintain/access member pages for past members. Instead, he seems to have created access to a list of email addresses of past members. There's still no way to see any of the members' activities, let alone their member pages. The list entries are not clickable, and you still have to search (often vainly) through the activity history to find whatever the member did. Even their +owner messages are gone: I found an entry in the group activity, by searching explicitly for +owner messages, a +owner message from a past member. The message looked clickable, and i thought that would be a way in, but clicking on it just took me back to the group home page. These members seem completely inaccessible as before.
I voiced a mild query (complaint/suggestion) about this on beta a few weeks ago but heard nothing back from Mark. Does anyone know the status of this? Is it still on trello, or does Mark consider the "past members" list (which is virtually useless) the implementation of it?
I remember that before Mark agreed to add the feature (in the "old days," he was going to do it for all groups, not just premium), the idea was to be able to more easily access the activities of past members, because the member page goes away. Someone at the time (this was in beta), possibly Mark, said it was easy to find their activities anyway by doing some search or other. That has never worked for me, because a search by email address on the group activity log fails. It just returns the entire activity log. So if this feature is no longer in the works, or if (god forbid) Mark considers it "done" by virtue of the "past members" list, does anyone know how to find all activity of a past member?
J
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How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
#howtoguide
I've done quite a bit of searching, and cannot find the answer to:
How Do I Insert/Attach an Image to My Post?
It is very frustrating. I am used to forums where it is extremely easy, like Discourse, for example.
Discourse uses a drag/drop or copy/paste mechanism. The image file is auto-uploaded and linked without any work from the user.
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Re: Quoted text in Replies - Is it possible to alter appearance
Somehow the message before my last one did not make it through. You can click on the three dots in my prior message to see that my point is that the normalize-HTML setting has nothing to do with this (because the purple comes from gmail, not from a purple font sent by the user), but that the strip-HTML setting does affect it.
J
[mod note: It came through out-of-order because I accidentally skipped it while approving messages earlier. On site they appear in approval order, but if you read individual messages by email it may appear in the J's sending order, depending on your email service and settings.]
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Re: Quoted text in Replies - Is it possible to alter appearance
Shal and John, I don't think "normalize HTML" would have anything to do with this.?
I'm no email guru, but I think the purple color comes from the email server seeking to distinguish quoted text from non-quoted text, depending on what it receives from , not from any purple color the *user* sends on the front end.
i've determine that the strip-HTML setting, however, DOES affect what's going on. I'm not sure it applies to John's member's situation, but as I said, if the group's strip-HTML setting is set, then my gmail does not distinguish the quoted text in purple. I've surmised that's because "processes out" the '>' signs, leaving gmail unable to see that the text was quoted material.
J?
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:42 PM, John P <vantravel50@...> wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 08:02 am, Shal Farley wrote:
You might have a look at the "Normalize HTML Emails" option in the Message Formatting section of your group's Settings page. If you have that box checked then color or font changes won't be shown on your group's messages on site.
Thanks Shal for your comments. FWIW, I don't have the Normalize HTML Emails box checked.
I've asked the member to identify which messages are causing him problems so we'll see what that reveals.
John P
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Re: Quoted text in Replies - Is it possible to alter appearance
" ?as I said, if the group's strip-HTML setting is set, then my gmail does not distinguish the quoted text in purple. I've surmised that's because?"processes out" the '>' signs, leaving gmail unable to see that the text was quoted material."
Darn, I've quoted myself incorrectly, and this is probably already confusing enough! What I meant was:
"?as I said, if the group's strip-HTML setting is NOT set, then my gmail does not distinguish the quoted text in purple. I've surmised that's because??"processes out" the '>' signs RATHER THAN STRIPPING THEM, leaving gmail unable to see that the text was quoted material"
J.
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:27 AM, J_Olivia Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: Shal and John, I don't think "normalize HTML" would have anything to do with this.?
I'm no email guru, but I think the purple color comes from the email server seeking to distinguish quoted text from non-quoted text, depending on what it receives from , not from any purple color the *user* sends on the front end.
i've determine that the strip-HTML setting, however, DOES affect what's going on. I'm not sure it applies to John's member's situation, but as I said, if the group's strip-HTML setting is set, then my gmail does not distinguish the quoted text in purple. I've surmised that's because "processes out" the '>' signs, leaving gmail unable to see that the text was quoted material.
J?
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Re: Quoted text in Replies - Is it possible to alter appearance
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 08:02 am, Shal Farley wrote:
You might have a look at the "Normalize HTML Emails" option in the Message Formatting section of your group's Settings page. If you have that box checked then color or font changes won't be shown on your group's messages on site.
Thanks Shal for your comments. FWIW, I don't have the Normalize HTML Emails box checked. I've asked the member to identify which messages are causing him problems so we'll see what that reveals. John P
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Re: Quoted text in Replies - Is it possible to alter appearance
I wrote: " First, note that I can still essentially/implicitly invoke the block-quote function of the editor ,even in a strip-HTML group, by selecting and copying a portion of the message I'm replying to before I hit reply"
(Addendum: I can also do it by simply including the symbols by hand before any text I want indented. I have tested this in a strip-HTML group and it results in the indention with vertical line at the left in the web version of the message, and the purple text in email versions of the post. Everything thing is the same as I described when I mentioned using the copy/paste to implicitly invoke the block quote.)?
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:43 PM, J_Olivia Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: Shal, here's what I've noticed since my last post. Suppose I use block-quote on the web to indent text consisting of the part of a message I want to respond to. There are two cases: 1. The group has 'strip HTML set and 2. It does not have that set.?
First, note that I can still essentially/implicitly invoke the block-quote function of the editor ,even in a strip-HTML group, by selecting and copying a portion of the message I'm replying to before I hit reply. In my draft of the message, the quoted text appears indebted with '>' signs to the left. But in the web version of my message, the quoted text shows up as usual, without the symbols but with the same vertical line at left that appears in a non-strip-HTML group.
Where it gets weird is with email versions of my message. I am using gmail, so I don't know how much of this applies to other email servers. But here's what I see consistently:?
In the strip-HTML group, the quoted text -which, as I said, appears indented with a vertical line at left, as one would expect - instead shows up in the email version with the quoted text nicely in purple. Readers can easily distinguish the quoted text from my my response immediately below it. All is fine and well.
However, in a non-strip-HTML group, the email version of my message utterly fails to separate the quoted text from my response below it. Even the line space that appears between the two in s strip-HTML group is missing.?
This is the case (because my group is non-strip-HTML) that I normally see, and which got me to finally resort to italicizing and putting quotation marks around the quoted text when I reply to a message, EVEN IF I am responding via the web.
I'm not sure what's happening, but I'm guessing that the '>' symbols for the indentation in a strip-HTML group are a sign to gmail to handle the text as quoted. But in a non-strip-HTML group, gmail has already performed that interpretation and that function, and has therefore gotten rid of the symbols by the find gmail gets the message, so gmail really doesn't know that it should distinguish the quoted text by making it purple.
Does that make any sense?
J
Sent from my iPhone Shal,
As you've noted, two issues here. I've always been annoyed by the top-posting algorithm's overzealousness, hiding ANY quoted material, not just prior posts but eve purposely quoted text from another source. I've resorted to inserting any sort of bogus text after a quote in order to foil it, but often I forget. It seems that nothing can be done about this. I know Mark has tried, according to what he's said in the past.
As for the gmail phone app, mine evidently behaves differently than yours, for some odd reason. Gmail does make quoted material purple on my Mac, but not on my iPhone. Before I resorted to italicizing the quoted material and even sometimes explicitly putting quotes around it, I used to see my versions of my posts on my phone beginning with statements that I utterly disagreed with and was about to counter, with those statements looking like I was the one saying them. Now, as i said, I work around that.
J
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