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Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members

 

Ruthie,

I want to secure all of the member email addresses from YahooGroups
BUT not yet go live with the IO group. Is this possible?
As Lena said, when the transfer agent copies your members list from Yahoo, it also sends a welcome message to each. So in that sense you'd "go live" at that point.

One thing you could do would be to set the IO group to "Announce Only" before starting the transfer. Also you'd want to tell your members what's going on so that they don't panic about the unexpected welcome message, nor attempt to post there until you actually go live.

This might be moot at the moment, until Mark finds a way around Yahoo/Verizon's recent change that prevents him from accessing the Yahoo Groups.

Shal
Re: trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

 

Avy,

Click on the "What's New" box over on the right when you log into
your group's moderator page.
That's rather old "new" info - it was put there as part of the 2013 "neo" rollout.

Shal
Re: trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

J_Catlady
 

LOL. Yeah, I saw what Mark wrote and nearly responded, but thought better on it because my response was not going to be in good taste vis-a-vis yahoo.;)
J
Re: trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

 

J,

Upgrades? Wonder what their idea of 'upgrades' is ?
In beta@ #14136, Mark Fletcher wrote:

FYI, it seems that yesterday afternoon Yahoo made a change to their
system that is preventing our scraper from logging in;
Oh, *that* kind of upgrade... [rolleyes]

I suppose it could be a security upgrade to the account sign-in process; having nothing directly to do with Yahoo Groups. Defense against bots would be a legit thing for them to be working on, albeit inconvenient for us if they manage to effectively lock out Mark's scraper bot.

Shal
Re: trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

 

Click on the "What's New" box over on the right when you log into your group's moderator page. That's the strangest (mostly black) webpage I've seen yet! Then arrows on the right to scroll through several more mostly black pages to see more new . . . . things? Ohmy! ???

Avy



01:10 AM 6/23/2017, Shal Farley said:

Taking the question seriously for a moment, I'd guess it would be more "IT" things - upgrading routers or servers or other equipment. Or maybe reconfiguring such things.

I very much doubt that Verizon has had a dev team geared up and ready to go on feature or functionality upgrades to the Groups software itself. Though hey, we can always hope.
Re: trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

 

J,

Upgrades? Wonder what their idea of 'upgrades' is ?
Taking the question seriously for a moment, I'd guess it would be more "IT" things - upgrading routers or servers or other equipment. Or maybe reconfiguring such things.

I very much doubt that Verizon has had a dev team geared up and ready to go on feature or functionality upgrades to the Groups software itself. Though hey, we can always hope.

Shal
Re: trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

J_Catlady
 

Upgrades? Wonder what their idea of 'upgrades' is ?

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On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:20 PM, Avy <AvyfromCA@...> wrote:

I got a message (when I tried to log into my groups) earlier tonite that Yahoo Groups is doing upgrades and not all groups would be available this evening.

Avy



08:05 PM 6/22/2017, J_Catlady said:
I know this is a bit OT, but is Y!G down? I'm trying to do some comparisons between yahoo search and groups.io search, and for the past hour he three remaining groups I'm in won't load, although I seem to be logged into Y!G. It just looks like I'm in no groups. Anyone else experiencing this? I tried the "is Y!G down" thing and it says it's up and running.
Re: trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

 

I got a message (when I tried to log into my groups) earlier tonite that Yahoo Groups is doing upgrades and not all groups would be available this evening.

Avy



08:05 PM 6/22/2017, J_Catlady said:

I know this is a bit OT, but is Y!G down? I'm trying to do some comparisons between yahoo search and groups.io search, and for the past hour he three remaining groups I'm in won't load, although I seem to be logged into Y!G. It just looks like I'm in no groups. Anyone else experiencing this? I tried the "is Y!G down" thing and it says it's up and running.
trying to do some search comparisons with Y!G - is it down?

J_Catlady
 

I know this is a bit OT, but is Y!G down? I'm trying to do some comparisons between yahoo search and groups.io search, and for the past hour he three remaining groups I'm in won't load, although I seem to be logged into Y!G. It just looks like I'm in no groups. Anyone else experiencing this? I tried the "is Y!G down" thing and it says it's up and running.

J
Re: Problem emailing to my Groups

Judy Houser
 

Frances,

I see your message.

Judy

On Jun 21, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am receiving messages, but I am not able to send to my groups through email. I can post by logging into the group.

Any suggestions? (I will see if this one works!)

Frances
Re: Problem emailing to my Groups

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Frances
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Problem emailing to my Groups

Hi everyone,

I am receiving messages, but I am not able to send to my groups through email. I can post by logging into the group.

Any suggestions? (I will see if this one works!)

Frances
Re: Problem emailing to my Groups

 

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Hi everyone,

Mark says it is fixed now.

He wrote:
This was a part of moving the load balancer?to its own instance, in response to the outage from the other day. So it?was a one time thing, and not something I regularly monitor, but still.?Sorry about that.

As an addendum, this should have only affected groups with subdomains.?Individual groups and enterprise groups were not affected.

Frances

On Jun 21 17, at 10:10 AM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am receiving messages, but I am not able to send to my groups through email. I can post by logging into the group.

Any suggestions? (I will see if this one works!)

Frances
Problem emailing to my Groups

 

Hi everyone,

I am receiving messages, but I am not able to send to my groups through email. I can post by logging into the group.

Any suggestions? (I will see if this one works!)

Frances
Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members

 

J is correct here. Messages will not be deleted. In fact, while my archives were being transferred, some members posted new messages, and those fell into the number order of messages being transferred. If I sort by message number instead of by date, there are recent messages that are many years out of place in the numbering because of that. But no messages were lost.

Dano

Is it really true that 'any messages posted to the io group will be
erased' in this situation? I was not aware of that and I don't think
that's correct.

J

Yes, you can ask to transfer the member list only. But every
member will get a message about the transfer. If you later ask
for Messages to be transferred, any messages posted to the
.io group will be erased. Put the .io group on "only moderators
can post" before you ask to transfer Members.
Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members

 

When I transferred my group, messages on the new group were retained. What was lost was the chronological ordering by message number. So the messages by number started with the new messages on the new group, followed by the messages on the Yahoo group in chronological order, followed later by messages on the new group received after the transfer.

Has this changed?
Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members

 

Hi Lena and all,

I think a better approach would be to transfer everything and then transfer the last few messages in a batch. I raised a suggestion to that effect on the beta group, but I haven't heard back yet.

This may be an academic point, since the Yahoo!Groups product does not appear in the updated list of brands on the Oath website.

David.


On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 03:43 am, Lena wrote:
Yes, you can ask to transfer the member list only. But every member will get a message about the transfer. If you later ask for Messages to be transferred, any messages posted to the .io group will be erased. Put the .io group on "only moderators can post" before you ask to transfer Members.

And keep email notifications of new members to the yahooGroup after the member list transfer. You'll have to invite them to the .io group, they'll have to accept invitation (with a click or a reply). Or you can pay .io $10 for one month in order to be able to add them (moderators of free groups cannot add members).
Re: Yahoo groups

 

Am considering changing from Yahoo groups to Facebook
assuming it encompasses all that Yahoo offers (having
trouble with "files"). Any advice?
Facebook has a huge problem in that you can't go back and find anything. It's not designed for the retention of information. It's designed to be a short-term social media that just comes and is gone.

Groups saves your messages in an archive and has separate places to save files and photos. Information from the past can be recalled relatively easily.

If what you're talking about is transitory in nature and meaningless after a week, FB will work for you. If you need a repository of ideas and information, it's a poor choice. I'm curious what doesn't work for your group on groups.io?

YMMV

Dano
Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members

J_Catlady
 

Is it really true that 'any messages posted to the io group will be erased' in this situation? I was not aware of that and I don't think that's correct.

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:03 AM, Lena <Lena@...> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 01:16 pm, Ruth Levi wrote:

Obviously the Verizon/Yahoo deal has now scared me into action. I have
secured my groups name in IO. I want to secure all of the member email
addresses from YahooGroups BUT not yet go live with the IO group. Is this
possible?
Yes, you can ask to transfer the member list only. But every member will get a message about the transfer. If you later ask for Messages to be transferred, any messages posted to the .io group will be erased. Put the .io group on "only moderators can post" before you ask to transfer Members.

And keep email notifications of new members to the yahooGroup after the member list transfer. You'll have to invite them to the .io group, they'll have to accept invitation (with a click or a reply). Or you can pay .io $10 for one month in order to be able to add them (moderators of free groups cannot add members).
Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members

 

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 01:16 pm, Ruth Levi wrote:

Obviously the Verizon/Yahoo deal has now scared me into action. I have
secured my groups name in IO. I want to secure all of the member email
addresses from YahooGroups BUT not yet go live with the IO group. Is this
possible?
Yes, you can ask to transfer the member list only. But every member will get a message about the transfer. If you later ask for Messages to be transferred, any messages posted to the .io group will be erased. Put the .io group on "only moderators can post" before you ask to transfer Members.

And keep email notifications of new members to the yahooGroup after the member list transfer. You'll have to invite them to the .io group, they'll have to accept invitation (with a click or a reply). Or you can pay .io $10 for one month in order to be able to add them (moderators of free groups cannot add members).
Yahoo groups

[email protected]
 

Am considering changing from Yahoo groups to Facebook assuming it encompasses all that Yahoo offers (having trouble with "files"). ?Any advice?

Also anyone know anything about ?new Yahoo corporate structure? ?Improving/groups?
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