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Saving Private Messages (was: Vanishing email)
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 11:06 PM, Alex Sproul wrote:
I am incredulous that groups.io does not save any PMs.Alex -- Unlike Yahoo and some others, you create an account here via an already-existing email address; your personal inbox/outbox resides there. To provide private email service would increase server load and storage costs, and the current funding approach might become unsustainable. Perhaps that will change when the groups.io app is rolled out...at that point such private messages could be stored on your own device.? I'm pretty sure the only private messages currently retained are invitations/direct add notices (via the activity log) and +owner messages (via the corresponding button on the subscriber's page). And an argument could be made that such messages are not really "private," inasmuch as they are accessible to all Moderators, and individuals can be rotated in and out of those positions. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Vanishing email
<p>I do this all the time. Sometimes I can't spell check for what ever reason on a website etc so I keep jarte or text edit open and I type my master piece, polish it, buff it and sand it for the final touch. Lol! Anyway, I've ben doing this for the longest time as I've also had stuff just disappear.</p>
<p>Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. <br /><br />[Long sig line trimmed by Moderator]<br /><br /></p> <p>On 26 Jul 2019, at 21:47, Michael Pavan wrote:</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>On Jul 26, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Alex Sproul <a href="mailto:imocaves@..." target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">imocaves@...</a> wrote:</p> <p>I just spent an hour composing an important message to lagging members. It was sent by going to Admin > Members and checking the appropriate members, then using Send Message to create. But when I clicked on Send to Members, poof, all my work disappeared into the ether. It didn't go to anybody, and I didn't get my own bcc. What's wrong here? Do I want to spend another hour recreating my message? Why can't I see any of my moderator messages to individuals? Only via bcc's?</p> </blockquote> <p>I think that happens to most people at one time or another, sometimes it was my fault, other times something in the technology goes wrong - either way it's lost. :-(</p> <p>I avoid it by composing offline (and saving frequently) in a simple ASCII (I guess it's now called UTF-8) document, such as Mac's TextEdit plain text (not Rich Text Format). When my message is ready, I copy and paste (not drag and drop) it into an email (or website email form) and then send. I'm not sure but I think the Windows/PC equivalent is NotePad.</p> <p>Copying and pasting from other (more sophisticated?) word-processing applications as strange corruptions can occur due to non-compatible Special Character and formatting coding.</p> <p> </p> </blockquote> |
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Re: Vanishing email
On Jul 26, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Alex Sproul <imocaves@...> wrote:I think that happens to most people at one time or another, sometimes it was my fault, other times something in the technology goes wrong - either way it's lost. :-( I avoid it by composing offline (and saving frequently) in a simple ASCII (I guess it's now called UTF-8) document, such as Mac's TextEdit plain text (not Rich Text Format). When my message is ready, I copy and paste (not drag and drop) it into an email (or website email form) and then send. I'm not sure but I think the Windows/PC equivalent is NotePad. Copying and pasting from other (more sophisticated?) word-processing applications as strange corruptions can occur due to non-compatible Special Character and formatting coding. |
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Re: Vanishing email
Thanks, Bruce; good to hear from you; I figured you'd jump right in. :^)? I did look for a draft. No joy. |
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Re: Vanishing email
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 05:23 PM, Alex Sproul wrote:
I just spent an hour composing an important message to lagging members. It was sent by going to Admin > Members and checking the appropriate members, then using Send Message to create. But when I clicked on Send to Members, poof, all my work disappeared into the ether. It didn't go to anybody, and I didn't get my own bcc. What's wrong here? Do I want to spend another hour recreating my message?Alex -- If you browse away from the editor, groups.io automatically saves your message as a draft. So the first thing to do is check the left-side menu bar for a message Draft. If present, you should be able to reopen that draft and send it. If not, I don't know. I have noticed that the Discard button is directly adjacent to the Send to Members button. A good suggestion for improvement would be to move them to opposite sides of the screen. Why can't I see any of my moderator messages to individuals? Only via bcc's?Generally speaking groups.io does not save any private messages.? Good luck, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Vanishing email
I just spent an hour composing an important message to lagging members. It was sent by going to Admin > Members and checking the appropriate members, then using Send Message to create. But when I clicked on Send to Members, poof, all my work disappeared into the ether. It didn't go to anybody, and I didn't get my own bcc. What's wrong here? Do I want to spend another hour recreating my message? Why can't I see any of my moderator messages to individuals? Only via bcc's?
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Re: Markdown is not rendered online
#markdown
Hi Shal,
Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, I disabled html email in my group, as I only want plain text emails. Yes, email clients can be configured to display markdown plain text emails as rendered in html. The issue that I am raising is that I would like the groups.io web interface to also render such markdown plain text emails properly. I will ask at beta. Thanks, Ondrej |
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Re: Markdown is not rendered online
#markdown
Ond?ej,
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But if I create a new message by sending an email, the markdown is not properly rendered (example). ?
I don't think so, not in general. There is a hint of maybe if you use the right email client in Mark's reply to my message, , so many years ago. Also there was this request (). Those topics are locked now, but you could always bring it up again in beta.
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There's also , which handles the conversion from markdown to HTML before you send the message, basically the same thing the Groups Web Poster does. I don't know if it has kept up with the changes in how Firefox/Thunderbird plugins work though.
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Markdown is not rendered online
#markdown
Hi, I am new to groups.io. When I create a new message online, the markdown is properly rendered (example). But if I create a new message by sending an email, the markdown is not properly rendered (example). Is there a way to enable markdown to always render, no matter if the message was created online or from an email? Thanks, Ondrej |
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Re: moderating Member Posts to Calendar
#calendar
councilconsulting, When members add events to calendar, is it subject to the same moderation settings as forum posts? No. The only control over member's use of the calendar is the overall calendar permission, Subscribers can view, or Subscribers can view and edit. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Subgroups
#subgroups
councilconsulting, I have one top level group.? I'm considering making some subgroups.? Will creation of subgroups change anything about the top level group, eg group email address, administrator email address... It will change both the group's email addresses (listed on the home page) and web address. However the original email address and web address will continue to work for the primary group. See also: Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name
Chris, Assuming that you did, then it is you we have to thank for getting the matter resolved as per Updates received this morning (UK time) I did, but I've no reason to suppose that I was the only one, or even the first. A highly satisfactory outcome. :) ? Indeed. Though my particular case (incorrect log entry) remains a bit of a mystery. Mark thinks my reported action should have made no entry at all, and I'm fairly certain that what I reported is exactly what I did. However that may be, a test last night gave the correct result in the logs, so it seems that's "case closed". Until it isn't. In my experience little niggling discrepancies like that (between actual result and what the diagnosis says should have happened)? hint at something deeper lurking around to bite you later. But not always, so we'll see. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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