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Re: strange messages sent to old YG group
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Marina, While checking the Activity Log, I was puzzled to notice loads of messages, mostly from @ accounts, sent daily to the group and rejected by Yahoo. Most of them because they were non-members of the group (I'm seeing similar rejections in YGOG and the Yahoo Groups GMF). The subject field of all rejected messages (including those not sent from @ accounts) is made up of numbers and Chinese looking characters. QQ is a service provider in china. I'm not sure why they use numbers instead of user names, but that seems to be their way. Any idea of what it is all about? I don't understand why so many QQ users are pounding away at Yahoo Groups posting addresses. I think maybe many of those accounts are being used by (aspiring) spammers just spewing to lists of arbitrary email addresses. Or perhaps QQ has an infestation of bots driving their servers. In one case, a QQ user managed to join GMF and send a "what?" message (that I rejected). That rejection though lead to an off list conversation in which I learned that this person speaks (or at least reads/writes) English very well. He/She was very surprised to get a reply message from a human, had expected nothing but automated responses. He/She claimed to be unaware of how he/she became a member of the group, and I am still puzzled because I never found the expected Activity Log entries for his/her joining. At any rate, I've chalked up the incident as "mostly harmless". Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: strange messages sent to old YG group
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 08:52 AM, Marina wrote:
Although I set my old Yahoo group so as to block all messages, a member somehow managed to send a post and it went through without Yahoo rejecting it.Since mid-December, groups.io has been blocking all messages from "numbered accounts"?(ref:??/g/updates/message/69). There has been no further explanation but I assume Mark had a good reason. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Searching a Members Previous Posts
tommy0421,
I did a message search on their name ... and when I didn't get anyI believe that this common frustration is because the message search includes only the message body, not the display name or email address of the posting member. -- they sign their messages (I discovered) --That should have been found. The only exception is if they sign by way of a signature line, and you've selected Exclude Signatures in the search Tools button. I looked at their profile. Under Activity History I found they haveThat's one way. Just below the Activity History button is the User Name field, which is a link to their profile in your group. Click that and on their Profile there is an "All Posts By This Member" link. This produces a search results list more like what you may have originally expected. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Searching a Members Previous Posts
An issue came up with a member in one of my groups. In order to decide how best to respond I decided to look to see how active this member had been and how they'd behaved in the past. I did a message search on their name -- they sign their messages (I discovered) -- and when I didn't get any results, I tried searching for messages with their email address. Again, I got no result. Still not convinced they had never posted a message previously, I looked at their profile. Under Activity History I found they have posted several messages in the past few years. Seems to be a pretty solid, well-behaved member, in fact.
Anyway, I'm surprised a message search by the poster's name and email address did not produce a result. They usually do. I wonder what could cause the message search to fail in this case? The messages by Joe Doe using Jdoe @ theiremail com are there, several of them. Why would the message search fail to 'see' them? Can an email program tell a search engine, "I'm not here!" LOL tommy0421 |
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Re: Member Name Best Practice(s)?
#wiki
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#database
Barry,
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But, in our case, we want full and real names to appear with every post made. My question is how best to use the platform to ensure that? ?
I think the simplest thing to do is establish a group rule (via the group's guidelines) that members must put their full name into the Display Name field in the Group Profile tab of their Subscription page for your group. That field will have defaulted to their Display Name from their account profile, but they can change it separately in each of their group subscriptions.
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If you check the New Users Moderated box in your group's settings you can double-check that they've set their name before you approve their first message(s).
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For the 300 that are already members, if you didn't have that setting in place you can (with some tedium) go through the Members list and change each of their Posting Privileges setting to Override: new user moderated to get the same effect going forward. You can change a page full of them at a time using the checkboxes in the Members list and the Actions menu at the bottom of the page. In your Account Preferences page there's a control for how many items are shown to you on each page.
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Correct. Signature line too.
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If a member "forgets" and changes their Display Name to something else you'll need to handle that as a member management issue. You can contact them off list, you can even put them back on Override: new user moderated until they correct it.
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There has been a suggestion [] that a group be able to prevent member changes to their Display Name. I'm not fond of that idea, but I can see how it could be useful in a group with a strict rule about posting under your real name.
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An advantage here is that the members can also set a signature line in their group subscription, so they don't have to remember to do it in each message (or do it in their email interface).
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Whether you require that they use their Display Name or their Signature for real name identification is up to you, and how you want group messages to "read". Using the Signature line has the look of a formal letter. Enforcement (by peer pressure and moderator action) would work the same either way.
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Re: Member Name Best Practice(s)?
#wiki
#username
#displayname
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 04:28 PM, Barry wrote:
I realize it's probably an individual group decision as to whether to allow aliases, anonymous posters, initials or just first names, etc. ?But, in our case, we want full and real names to appear with every post made. My question is how best to use the groups.io platform to ensure that?To my knowledge, there is currently no way to enforce this in the software. If there was, I'd be doing it, too. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: How to take yourself off moderation
Randi,
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Can you take yourself off moderation if you have everything sent to everybody Moderated? ?
Yes. Each member of the group, including each owner and moderator, has a Posting Privilege control .
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Click on your row in the Member's list (anywhere except the checkbox) then scroll to the bottom of your membership page. Normally members should have Use Group Moderation Setting selected so that they are controlled by the group's Moderated checkbox, but you can override that on a case by case basis with this control.
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Or, you can change multiple members' setting at a time by checking the box in their row(s) and using the Actions menu (at the bottom) to select Change Moderation.
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Re: Time error when editing row
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:04 AM, Christopher White wrote:
I had a quick search and didn't find anything similar to the problem I've encountered so I don't know if it's just me but when I edit a row with a column set to hold a time the time, originally entered in 24 hour format, is displayed as am or pm. If the update is posted without changing that time it appears not to be understood and a completely different time appears in the field.I just checked this in my test group and also encountered some rather peculiar behavior. Sometimes when I edit a row containing a time entry the entry disappears entirely and/or defaults to 12:00 am. The time display in a database table is also not affected by account preferences as it should be. The times in the drop-down pick-list seem to be affected, but the display is not -- at least not consistently. ? I'd welcome testing by others, but generally speaking it does not seem to be working well. You might have some luck changing the column type to plain text, but it would be better to report this to support so it can be fixed. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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