Michael,

But suddenly getting over 10 two days in a row is concerning.

I doubt there's any cause for concern, given what the DMARC reports are for. It might mean that one or more of your subscribed groups had an increase in membership, but maybe not even that.

All mentioning groups.io as the issue.

Groups.io IS the issue.

But it is neither a threat nor a malfunction nor anything else of great significance.

The issue is that Groups.io passes your email header From address through without munging (replacing) it. That simple fact means that your messages fail DMARC authentication at the receiving service because the message says it came From your domain, but it was delivered to the receiving service by Groups.io's outbound server, not yours. (And it carries Groups.io's DKIM signature, not your domain's).

This would only become a concern were you to change your DMARC policy from "none" to either "quarantine" or "reject".

But Groups.io has a work-around for that. If you receive individual messages by email you may notice that some of your fellow members' emails have munged From addresses. Those members using AOL.com and yahoo.com for example.

Shal


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On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 02:17 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Granted the only thing you could do with them after that would be to upload them to the Files section, disconnected from their original posts.

It would also be additional work, but a line with a link to the file could be added by editing the original posts.

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On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

It would be so much more handy to be able to force followups to a subgroup

There may be an alternative to check into - Chats.? I don't think it will solve some of the things you mentioned though.? When a chat is created, a message is sent to the group with the subject, along with a link to the chat.? Nothing else is ever sent to the group archives.? The biggest 'limitation' is that it can only be used online.? We have a test chat that's been open since 10/19/16, with only occasional posts to it.? There's not much information about them - Chat Overview
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the odd thing is I've been agroups.io member for over a year.? Have had my records setup for protonmail longer than that which required I setup SPF, DKIM and? DMARC.? i am used to seeing 1 or 2 a day.

But suddenly getting over 10 two days in a row is concerning. All mentioning groups.io as the issue.

I did sign up for?dmarcian.com and changed my dmarc to send the reports to them.? I'll see of the next couple of days how they get interpreted..

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Lester,

I have invited a person 3 times and he says he has never received the
invitation.

A common enough situation. See
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/16029 and
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/16040

This time I told him to send an email to [email protected]
He did and copied me so I could see it.

Good thinking.

So far the request has not appeared in the group. What am I doing
wrong?

Probably nothing. He probably hasn't confirmed his +subscribe request.
See /g/GroupManagersForum/message/16045

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I have a group with about 70 members. I have invited a person 3 times and he says he has never received the invitation. I know I am sending to the right email and he has checked his junk folder. This time I told him to send an email to [email protected]. He did and copied me so I could see it. So far the request has not appeared in the group. What am I doing wrong?

Through a bit of testing, we have already worked out what it does and when.? The only extra thing to add that Bruce mentioned to me on a private message is:

if you attempt to join/apply using the web interface, a red banner will show up at the top of the page stating?You are not allowed to subscribe to the group with that domain.

Regards,
Andy

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Likes of already stated constructive criticism is better than unexplained Don't Likes.

Personally, I'd be far more inclined to support the removal of the Like function than the creation of a Vote Down function.

Discussion should be on the merits of a suggestion (constructive criticism) - not stating like (or dislike) which just bloats the number of messages

I don't know how much or who pays any attention to Likes, however I use it when I support an idea, but don't have anything new or constructive to add. More people should do that than to send essentially 'me too' messages.

Just because I might not like something that might be useful to someone else, I shouldn't campaign to deny them - which is what a Don't Like seems to be, and the point of most negative messages.

Both just scream "social media" to me, and there's very little about Groups.io that is, in any meaningful sense, social media-esque.

I'm not sure Likes are 'screamed', because one has to go look for them.

Likes could be indicated in the archive as a black circle with a white number in it at the end of that individual Message Subject to make it easier to see what messages were liked. I don't think that would make Groups.io 'social media', but it might encourage (at least users who read messages at the Website) from posting 'me too' messages... Perhaps a sort of Messages by the number of Likes could be helpful and by making Like more meaningful.

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I should add that as far as registrations are concerned, it impacts those trying to subscribe by sending a request to groupname+subscribe@...?? An activity log entry is generated stating that:

Non-member <NonMemberEmailAddress> attempted to subscribe with a banned domain via email

Despite an entry in the Banned Domains list, members can join via a Direct Add or replying to an Invite.

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Personally, I'd be far more inclined to support the removal of the Like function than the creation of a Vote Down function.

Both just scream "social media" to me, and there's very little about Groups.io that is, in any meaningful sense, social media-esque.
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I'm in the midst of trying to get a group I moderate "back on focus" in the main group, and to direct folks who are posting off-topic material on that main group to use a chat subgroup instead.

I know that at the moment there is no mechanism on Groups.io that would allow a topic to be moved from main group to subgroup or vice versa, and if one were to be created it would have to automatically subscribe a user to the subgroup were a message going main to sub and they weren't already a subscriber to the subgroup.

Someone on the group just said this, and as an old Usenet user it does make me think that such a mechanism might exist, but that I don't know about it:
"In the old usenet group scene we had a followups-to heading that could be generated and seen so people knew the topic had drifted from suitable for one group to more in keeping with another. Does the groups.io system have something similar?"

It would be so much more handy to be able to force followups to a subgroup as opposed to locking a topic and PMing the original poster asking them to start the topic again in the subgroup.

I love the concept of subgroups, but the way that Groups.io implements them makes them largely invisible to main group users and there is no easy mechanism that I know of to redirect topics between group and subgroups in a given group structure.
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Hi Duane,

thanks for the pointer. After some additional testing I can confirm that it works for messages received from non-members on the main and subgroups. I initially tested it on a subgroup sending a message from an account in the main group and that had no effect. Messages received from non-members generate an entry on the activity log stating that:

Non-member <NonMemberEmailAddress> attempted to send message from a banned domain via email

Note that entries in the Banned Domain list must not include the @ symbol, just everything after it.

I'll see if I can find a suitable place for a note in the GMF Wiki about this.

Regards,
Andy

Received 11 reports last night.

I attached one.? I am not a expert at these.? ?normally I ignore the 1 or 2 I receive.? But to get 11 in one night.

Is there any hope for the ability to migrate Yahoo Post Attachments in the near future?

I would really like to know why it isn't available because it seems like this would be very necessary.?

This is the one thing preventing our group from moving to what is otherwise a very acceptable platform.

I don't have a paid group, but the information I found is "NEW: Premium/Enterprise groups now have a new Banned Domains tab. Emails from non-subscribers are rejected from banned domains, as well as registrations." ? Looks to me like it only applies to non-members.? My interpretation is that existing members should be okay, but no new members could apply/post from that domain.

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Hi,

Can someone explain the purpose of the banned domains list under Admin > Domains?? I've added @gmail.com and just gmail.com to the list for one of my test subgroups and I can still post to it from a gmail account.

I suspect a bug!

Thanks
Andy