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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
Bob, It actually creates a direct, private, one way channel into a group from the email address of the first email received through it to the group, according to your description above. Duane has done some testing today that belies my description. I thought I had tested this behavior but instead they do seem to accept messages from all senders. I'm not sure if there is more to the story or if I have been simply wrong about that. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
On 2019/02/19 10:16 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
Shal, it would seem that a more accurate & descriptive name is needed to self-describe how this works.I think I got it: it is "receive-only" from the group's perspective. It is "send-only" from the human's perspective. I tend to think human. :-) Samuel |
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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
Samual, Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the One specific non-subscriber address per integration. On first use the integration remembers the sending address and thereafter accepts messages only from that address. It does not create an open portal that could be used by anyone knowing the integration address. ? So its like a one-direction subscription Correct, mostly Unlike an ordinary subscription, the sender uses this integration address to post to the group, not the group's normal posting address. And unlike an ordinary subscription, the group admin who sets it up doesn't need to know the actual sending address in advance. What sort of situations would one use this for? As Bruce said, the primary application is for posting notices from automated services, the key factor being that the sender doesn't have to be subscribed to the group (which can be tricky to achieve when dealing with a send-only address). It could in principle be used for announcements from an individual (human) sender, but that case would more normally be handled by subscribing the person to the group, perhaps set No Email. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
What sort of situations would one use this for?Our group uses the email integration to automatically post web formmail and PayPal notifications to a "member management" subgroup. So it's useful for getting these kinds of automated notices into your groups.io message archive and distributed appropriately. They arrive with an #email hashtag that can be customized for topic duration, message delivery, etc. You could also subscribe this email address to a listserv, or set up your email client to auto-forward messages conforming to certain rules to this address, or... I cannot understand the benefit and do not recommend sharing an email integration address with non-subscribers. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:57 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the "receive-only" e-mail address?Yes, that seems to be how it works.? I've just done a test from an email address I have that is not linked with Groups.io in anyway and the message came through to my group. but you won't receive any replies unless group members deliberately include use your From address?The reply options can be controlled in the Admin > Settings > Message Policies section and can be Group, Group and Sender, Sender or Moderators. Andy |
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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
On 2019/02/19 12:49 PM, Duane wrote:
Using this option will create an email address for the group that can only receive messages, not send.? Anything sent to this email address will get posted to the group.I'm still not quite sure what it is. Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the "receive-only" e-mail address? So its like a one-direction subscription -- you can send messages to the gruop, but you won't receive any replies unless group members deliberately include use your From address? What sort of situations would one use this for? Samuel |
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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
Using this option will create an email address for the group that can only receive messages, not send.? Anything sent to this email address will get posted to the group.? It can be set to deliver messages without moderation, even if the group is moderated, but can also be set to require moderation.? It includes the entire email address of the sender, including any name they may have set on their email program.? It's a convoluted string of characters that wouldn't be easy to replicate, so should be relatively safe unless you post it someplace.? If that were to happen, you could always delete it and create another.? One thing I noticed this morning is that there doesn't seem to be an entry in the Activity Log when these are received.
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What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
Hello
I could not find the answer to this question in the help files. What does the "Create a receive-only email address that posts to your group" option do? It makes no sense... how can a "receive-only email address do any posting? Or, perhaps I don't understand what a "receive-only email address is. Thanks Samuel |
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Re: Spamfilter
On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:"whatever the owner / moderator wants it to say¡± = more information, whatever it says (even if they already have it, and the Owner / Moderator wants to send it to them again). Its clear purpose is to invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join.My point is that it might "invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join¡±, but it doesn¡¯t not require a response before approval. I agree, but when I proposed (on beta) that it should put a hold on an application (for that purpose), other argued they do not use it that way and were upset that it be ¡®changed¡¯ to use it that way! I then suggested rather than change the name of the ¡°Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice to "Additional Group Information¡± to reflect what they believed was its predominate usage (to provide additional information); that a new Member Notice be created called ¡°Additional Information Required¡± that would also put the the ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (which starts a 14 day approval deadline) on hold until it was responded to. Some made the good point that they would like to be informed when someone had applied even if ¡°Additional Information Required¡±. I then suggested at the time of application that an ¡°Additional Information Required¡± be sent to applicant and a "Application Received¡± notice (which did not start an approval deadline) be sent to Owners/Moderators. See "Subscription Approval Needed notices sent prematurely¡± thread This has nothing to do with any Hold feature. In the group I moderate if an applicant does not reply to the Pending Subscription message then they simply don't get in. This has no direct connection with the Hold function; that is simply an additional option.It is possible, and I try to have all 9 of my restricted groups function that way. Unfortunately, occasionally a Moderator (trying to be helpful, I¡¯m sure) would reflexively approve by replying to a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed notice (without remembering that a "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice is automatically sent) and waiting for the response. I was castigated for 'not better training my Moderators¡¯. Later the same person complained that they don¡¯t always have time to ¡°review¡± an application due to the 14 day clock that was started by the application (because applicants do not always answer quickly) ? The point I was making was that without using the Pending Subscription capability how can anyone "review" an applicant. The bald notification that "x" has applied to join contains no information on which a review could be based unless the email address is visibly "strange¡±.I agree, as I¡¯ve described that feature is not fully developed yet to function well for all. The new Claim feature is a non-automated work-around that gets part way there. |
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Re: Spamfilter
On Feb 18, 2019, at 8:16 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:The Pending Subscription feature does not put an applicant on hold. What it does do is send more information to the applicant at the same time it sends a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (with a 14 day deadline) to all Moderators with approval permission. The Moderator who sets up the "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice might (or might not) include a request for more information from the applicant. [Mod note: slight bit of semantics here. It is the Restricted Membership checkbox in the Spam Control section of the group's Settings page which controls whether an person can join the group, or whether they must apply and have their application held pending approval. The Pending Subscription member notice is optional, but is only sent if the group is Restricted Membership.] <snip> |
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Re: How to merge or combine hashtags
#hashtags
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 03:28 PM, Duane wrote:
Using your example of #green with an alias of #blue:? All messages that have the hashtag #green will have that hashtag changed to #blueA message is displayed confirming one will be moved to the other but it could be a bit clearer. I might flag that in beta as a suggestion. You'd have to change those topic hashtags manually.And for clarity, that is done through Edit Topic and you need to be a moderator with the Edit Archive privilege set to use it: Andy |
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Re: Spamfilter
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:11 AM, Andy W wrote:
All you need to do then is approve each member joining and then let them post at will.In addition, if you Invite people (or Direct Add on a premium group), that step is bypassed automatically. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Spamfilter
Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like what you are achieving is the same as having a group setting of Restricted Membership.? All you need to do then is approve each member joining and then let them post at will.? There's no need to go into each member's setting and make a change.
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Re: Moderator Permissions
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 03:39 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
is somewhere where a moderator can see the list of their Permissions?I haven't done an exhaustive test, but it appears that if a moderator has the "Set Moderator Privileges" capability, they can see which ones they (or anyone else) have, otherwise they can't.? I'm a bit ambivalent about whether they need to see the list.? In many (most?) cases, they won't miss having a certain permission if they don't know it exists. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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