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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
Samual, Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the One specific non-subscriber address per integration. On first use the integration remembers the sending address and thereafter accepts messages only from that address. It does not create an open portal that could be used by anyone knowing the integration address. ? So its like a one-direction subscription Correct, mostly Unlike an ordinary subscription, the sender uses this integration address to post to the group, not the group's normal posting address. And unlike an ordinary subscription, the group admin who sets it up doesn't need to know the actual sending address in advance. What sort of situations would one use this for? As Bruce said, the primary application is for posting notices from automated services, the key factor being that the sender doesn't have to be subscribed to the group (which can be tricky to achieve when dealing with a send-only address). It could in principle be used for announcements from an individual (human) sender, but that case would more normally be handled by subscribing the person to the group, perhaps set No Email. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
What sort of situations would one use this for?Our group uses the email integration to automatically post web formmail and PayPal notifications to a "member management" subgroup. So it's useful for getting these kinds of automated notices into your groups.io message archive and distributed appropriately. They arrive with an #email hashtag that can be customized for topic duration, message delivery, etc. You could also subscribe this email address to a listserv, or set up your email client to auto-forward messages conforming to certain rules to this address, or... I cannot understand the benefit and do not recommend sharing an email integration address with non-subscribers. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:57 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the "receive-only" e-mail address?Yes, that seems to be how it works.? I've just done a test from an email address I have that is not linked with Groups.io in anyway and the message came through to my group. but you won't receive any replies unless group members deliberately include use your From address?The reply options can be controlled in the Admin > Settings > Message Policies section and can be Group, Group and Sender, Sender or Moderators. Andy |
Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
On 2019/02/19 12:49 PM, Duane wrote:
Using this option will create an email address for the group that can only receive messages, not send.? Anything sent to this email address will get posted to the group.I'm still not quite sure what it is. Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the "receive-only" e-mail address? So its like a one-direction subscription -- you can send messages to the gruop, but you won't receive any replies unless group members deliberately include use your From address? What sort of situations would one use this for? Samuel |
Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
Using this option will create an email address for the group that can only receive messages, not send.? Anything sent to this email address will get posted to the group.? It can be set to deliver messages without moderation, even if the group is moderated, but can also be set to require moderation.? It includes the entire email address of the sender, including any name they may have set on their email program.? It's a convoluted string of characters that wouldn't be easy to replicate, so should be relatively safe unless you post it someplace.? If that were to happen, you could always delete it and create another.? One thing I noticed this morning is that there doesn't seem to be an entry in the Activity Log when these are received.
Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
What is "Create a receive-only email" option?
Hello
I could not find the answer to this question in the help files. What does the "Create a receive-only email address that posts to your group" option do? It makes no sense... how can a "receive-only email address do any posting? Or, perhaps I don't understand what a "receive-only email address is. Thanks Samuel |
Re: Spamfilter
On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:"whatever the owner / moderator wants it to say¡± = more information, whatever it says (even if they already have it, and the Owner / Moderator wants to send it to them again). Its clear purpose is to invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join.My point is that it might "invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join¡±, but it doesn¡¯t not require a response before approval. I agree, but when I proposed (on beta) that it should put a hold on an application (for that purpose), other argued they do not use it that way and were upset that it be ¡®changed¡¯ to use it that way! I then suggested rather than change the name of the ¡°Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice to "Additional Group Information¡± to reflect what they believed was its predominate usage (to provide additional information); that a new Member Notice be created called ¡°Additional Information Required¡± that would also put the the ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (which starts a 14 day approval deadline) on hold until it was responded to. Some made the good point that they would like to be informed when someone had applied even if ¡°Additional Information Required¡±. I then suggested at the time of application that an ¡°Additional Information Required¡± be sent to applicant and a "Application Received¡± notice (which did not start an approval deadline) be sent to Owners/Moderators. See "Subscription Approval Needed notices sent prematurely¡± thread This has nothing to do with any Hold feature. In the group I moderate if an applicant does not reply to the Pending Subscription message then they simply don't get in. This has no direct connection with the Hold function; that is simply an additional option.It is possible, and I try to have all 9 of my restricted groups function that way. Unfortunately, occasionally a Moderator (trying to be helpful, I¡¯m sure) would reflexively approve by replying to a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed notice (without remembering that a "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice is automatically sent) and waiting for the response. I was castigated for 'not better training my Moderators¡¯. Later the same person complained that they don¡¯t always have time to ¡°review¡± an application due to the 14 day clock that was started by the application (because applicants do not always answer quickly) ? The point I was making was that without using the Pending Subscription capability how can anyone "review" an applicant. The bald notification that "x" has applied to join contains no information on which a review could be based unless the email address is visibly "strange¡±.I agree, as I¡¯ve described that feature is not fully developed yet to function well for all. The new Claim feature is a non-automated work-around that gets part way there. |
Re: Spamfilter
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:42 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
The Pending Subscription feature does not put an applicant on hold.Er... yes I know that. What it does do is send more information to the applicant at the same time it sends a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (with a 14 day deadline) to all Moderators with approval permission.Incorrect; it sends the applicant a message that says whatever the owner / moderator wants it to say. It does not by definition send more information to the applicant, although it may do depending on what is conatined within it. Its clear purpose is to invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join. The Moderator who sets up the "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice might (or might not) include a request for more information from the applicant. If it doesn't include that request then there is no point in using the Pending Subscription message exchange at all. This has nothing to do with any Hold feature. In the group I moderate if an applicant does not reply to the Pending Subscription message then they simply don't get in. This has no direct connection with the Hold function; that is simply an additional option. The point I was making was that without using the Pending Subscription capability how can anyone "review" an applicant. The bald notification that "x" has applied to join contains no information on which a review could be based unless the email address is visibly "strange". Chris |
Re: Moderator Permissions
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 02:11 PM, Duane wrote:
I'm a bit ambivalent about whether they need to see the list.? In many (most?) cases, they won't miss having a certain permission if they don't know it exists.That's probably a fair comment. What led me in this direction was the point about Moderators being able to see (or not see) the View Attachments link on the Upgrade page. It just seems a bit odd that it is only available to a moderator who has Billing permissions, when in reality access to it might be useful for managing attachments, even if that can be achieved by other routes. Chris |
Re: Spamfilter
On Feb 18, 2019, at 8:16 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:The Pending Subscription feature does not put an applicant on hold. What it does do is send more information to the applicant at the same time it sends a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (with a 14 day deadline) to all Moderators with approval permission. The Moderator who sets up the "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice might (or might not) include a request for more information from the applicant. [Mod note: slight bit of semantics here. It is the Restricted Membership checkbox in the Spam Control section of the group's Settings page which controls whether an person can join the group, or whether they must apply and have their application held pending approval. The Pending Subscription member notice is optional, but is only sent if the group is Restricted Membership.] <snip> |
Re: Spamfilter
Since you have a small group, why are you intent on doing the smallest amount of work which not only would protect your group but would help to not get groups.io blacklisted which shuts down all groups for an indeterminate time? -- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends?? |
Re: How to merge or combine hashtags
#hashtags
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 03:28 PM, Duane wrote:
Using your example of #green with an alias of #blue:? All messages that have the hashtag #green will have that hashtag changed to #blueA message is displayed confirming one will be moved to the other but it could be a bit clearer. I might flag that in beta as a suggestion. You'd have to change those topic hashtags manually.And for clarity, that is done through Edit Topic and you need to be a moderator with the Edit Archive privilege set to use it: Andy |
Re: Spamfilter
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:11 AM, Andy W wrote:
All you need to do then is approve each member joining and then let them post at will.In addition, if you Invite people (or Direct Add on a premium group), that step is bypassed automatically. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: Spamfilter
Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like what you are achieving is the same as having a group setting of Restricted Membership.? All you need to do then is approve each member joining and then let them post at will.? There's no need to go into each member's setting and make a change.
Andy |
Re: Moderator Permissions
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 03:39 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
is somewhere where a moderator can see the list of their Permissions?I haven't done an exhaustive test, but it appears that if a moderator has the "Set Moderator Privileges" capability, they can see which ones they (or anyone else) have, otherwise they can't.? I'm a bit ambivalent about whether they need to see the list.? In many (most?) cases, they won't miss having a certain permission if they don't know it exists. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: Spamfilter
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 12:48 PM, Patti Bennett wrote:
This method sort of gets around the spam filter, but a moderator is still reviewing each member before giving them free rein. I just don't have to wait for them to make that first post.I'm not sure that wilfully circumventing Groups.io's Spam Control is something to admit. If I'm honest I think it is rather reprehensible, both others may not agree. Are you using the Pending Subscription function? If not, how are you reviewing each member before giving them free rein? And what is wrong with having new members on moderation for (up to) 4 posts? On your own admission you have a small group so I would not have thought that the resulting burden would actually have been all that great. The Spam Control measures are there for a reason and frustrating them could backfire on us all. Chris. |
Re: Groups.io site updates
#changelog
Hi Shal,
NEW: Subgroups have a new 'Allow Parent Subs To Post' settings checkbox.There are separate discussions and investigations in progress for queries about this: /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/site_updates_allow_parent/29871960 and Regards, Andy |
Re: Spamfilter
In my small group, new members are set to moderated for their first post. However, as soon as new members join, I go into the settings and change their posting privileges to "Use Group Moderation Setting".? So when we moved off of Yahoo groups, most people joined in the first couple days, and I could select all of them and update their posting privileges in bulk. Nobody tried to post in that time period and thus nobody even knew they were on moderation.
This method sort of gets around the spam filter, but a moderator is still reviewing each member before giving them free rein. I just don't have to wait for them to make that first post. -patti |
Re: MAIL [not receiving messages from my group]
nobe,
I AM STILL UNABLE TO RECEIVE EMAILS FROM MY GROUP ¨C LAST ONE RECEIVEDYou are doing a remarkably poor job of giving us any information we can use to help you. Have you checked your Subscription settings for that group? How about the Email Delivery Tab? If it is your group in the sense that you are an admin of that group, have you checked the group's settings? Also, are you visually impaired? I ask because that may affect how you would interact with the site. If you are using all caps for emphasis (shouting), please know that it is considered rude and unproductive in most discussion forums. CAN REACH ME AT ...You can reach me, and I will reach you, right here. I've looked at your GMF subscription's Email Delivery History, and there's no indication of trouble: no unsuccessful attempts or bounces. And indeed, your own message is listed as successfully delivered back to you. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: MAIL [not receiving messages from my group]
You can check your delivery settings for that group to make sure that you're supposed to be receiving emails, and whether they will be individual or digest.? You can also check your mail delivery status online to see if your email address is bouncing.
Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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