Ken, Is there a particular location/folder where photos on wiki pages
reside? I see the obscure URL. Can we get to them? Not that I know of. I don't mind uploading a "/*new*/" photo but would like to
remove/clean up the old junk, I mean content, that is no longer used. I just delete the old photo from the page and paste in the new one. It never occurred to me that the old might still be hanging around somewhere. Other than using an exceptionally large photo so that I can see the effect in my usage stats I'm not sure how to test this. And even then you'd have to test carefully, as there might be an arbitrary delay between deleting the photo and garbage-collection and/or update of the usage stat. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: Members post and Groups.io unsubscribes them!
Brandy, One member tried to send a message to the group from an email that
wasn't subscribed, and then when she sent one from her subscribed
email, it posted the message and then booted her. After a 12 minute delay. And after an hour 50 minutes in the case of M Thompson. I wonder if there's a bug in the log reporting, and these are actually cases of "removed for marking a message as spam". The time delay and the phrasing "resumed membership via web" makes me suspicious - I've only seen "resumed" used with the spam mechanism. Are these members by any chance using one of the known services that cause the "marking as spam" problem? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam#Service-ProvidersThere is also an Unsubscribe link in the footer of each message. That would take them to the web page to unsubscribe (hence "left via web"), but I don't know how that would get activated without the member deliberately clicking it and then confirming at the web site. You'll see one in there sent a message and wasn't booted. I see that. If you can contact the affected members and confirm that they haven't interacted with the web site then I'd recommend reporting this to [email protected] along with the copy from the activity log. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Is there a particular location/folder where photos on wiki pages reside?? I see the obscure?URL.? Can we get to them?
I ask because using MediaWiki, if I need to edit or change an image, I just upload a revised photo that?replaces the one saved, instead of uploading an additional photo.?
I don't mind uploading a "new" photo but would like to remove/clean up the old junk, I mean content, that is no longer used.
-ken
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Re: Members post and Groups.io unsubscribes them!
On 1/21/19 9:02 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I just successfully transferred over
my groups but Groups.io is automatically unsubscribing any
of the members who post, even when replying to messages.
Is that in fact what's happening?
Yes.
I mean, is it happening to every
member who posts? Or was "any" a typo for "many"?
Presumably you haven't been
unsubscribed from the group after posting.
Nope, I haven't, but I'm the owner. The others have. One managed to
post and remain in the group.
None of those should be causing the
members to have "left via web."
There isn't a setting that would cause
an automatic unsubscription (there is a mechanism that
would, removed because of spam report, but it has a
different log entry). As Bruce mentioned, left via web
in the logs means that the member him/herself performed the
Unsubscribe action, either at the bottom of the Subscription
page or on their subscription list (Groups home page).
That's what I'd think...
Immediately after transferring some of
my groups I experienced what Bruce mentioned: many members
who had been "No Email" on the Yahoo Group unsubscribed
themselves promptly after the transfer. But with one notable
exception those people didn't bother to post or reply before
unsubscribing, so I'm still a little puzzled by the apparent
coincidences in your case.
No, I've had those. These were different. Here is the log (modified
for privacy)
One member tried to send a message to the group from an email that
wasn't subscribed, and then when she sent one from her subscribed
email, it posted the message and then booted her. Both people who
posted did so by email. Their messages posted and then the logs say
they left via the web, but I don't think they actually were on the
web. You'll see one in there sent a message and wasn't booted.
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5:19pm
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| applied for membership via
web
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3:50pm
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| L Norman <deleynabee@> left via web
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3:34pm
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| sent message #37169, via email
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3:22pm
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| Non-member @deleynabee.com attempted to send message
"White listing in gmail" via email
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3:08pm
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| changed
group settings via web
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2:54pm
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| changed
group settings via web
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2:51pm
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| resumed membership via web
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2:40pm
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| mvtgrtrt@ sent message "Re: Sorry to see you leave CWGI"
to owners via email
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2:39pm
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| sent
message #37168, via email
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1:30pm
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| J Robertson <janerobeson@> left via web
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10:15am
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| M Thompson <mvtgrtrt@> left via web
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8:15am
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| sent message #37167, via email
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6:25am
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| sent message #37166, via email
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Re: Members post and Groups.io unsubscribes them!
I just successfully transferred over my groups but Groups.io is
automatically unsubscribing any of the members who post, even when
replying to messages.
Is that in fact what's happening?
I mean, is it happening to every member who posts? Or was "any" a typo for "many"?
Presumably you haven't been unsubscribed from the group after posting.
? None of those
should be causing the members to have "left via web."
There isn't a setting that would cause an automatic unsubscription (there is a mechanism that would, removed because of spam report, but it has a different log entry). As Bruce mentioned, left via web in the logs means that the member him/herself performed the Unsubscribe action, either at the bottom of the Subscription page or on their subscription list (Groups home page).
Immediately after transferring some of my groups I experienced what Bruce mentioned: many members who had been "No Email" on the Yahoo Group unsubscribed themselves promptly after the transfer. But with one notable exception those people didn't bother to post or reply before unsubscribing, so I'm still a little puzzled by the apparent coincidences in your case.
Shal
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Re: Members post and Groups.io unsubscribes them!
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 07:36 PM, Brandy Brow wrote:
I just successfully transferred over my groups but Groups.io is automatically unsubscribing any of the members who post, even when replying to messages. What's going on and how do I stop this? It's set so members can post and new members should be moderated. Under message settings, the only things selected are disable message editing, virus blocking, and separate footer settings. None of those should be causing the members to have "left via web."
If "left via web" is what the the Activity Log says, then these people are unsubscribing from your group on their own initiative. Yahoo groups sometimes made it difficult to unsubscribe; others found it difficult to figure out how to do it. So folks would just set their delivery preference to "No Email" and forget about it. Such subscribers will be quite disconcerted when they suddenly find themselves re-added to a group that they tried to leave years ago.? You'll probably discover that other email addresses will start bouncing because people got new email addresses in the interim and Yahoo never bothered to flag their accounts accordingly.? It is not unusual to lose 10-20% of your members in this way.?If they aren't going to participate anyway, then you don't need them. If you believe something else is happening, please post the log entries here. Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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We use an email integration to post formmail from our primary web site to our group, along with PayPal notifications. This is being done to capture new member information and dues payments for our club. Such posts arrive with the #email hashtag. I want people to be able to reply to those emails, but I don't want the hashtag to appear in the replies, so that I can continue to use it to filter down to the original posts coming in via the integration.? Thoughts on the best (or any) way to achieve this objective would be appreciated. Thanks, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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Members post and Groups.io unsubscribes them!
I just successfully transferred over my groups but Groups.io is
automatically unsubscribing any of the members who post, even when
replying to messages. What's going on and how do I stop this? It's
set so members can post and new members should be moderated. Under
message settings, the only things selected are disable message
editing, virus blocking, and separate footer settings. None of those
should be causing the members to have "left via web."
Brandy Brow
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Fabien . . . On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 18:16:49 -0800, "Fabien" <theboxcarchildren10@...> wrote: Also, are you able to give someone else admin privileges, or can there be only one admin? As someone else posted, you can have multiple owners. Be careful about that, though. You could appoint an owner who could demote you to moderator. It happened to me, but it was in a group I set up for the other person anyway. We had a difference of opinion about one member's posts being inappropriate and needing moderated and the other owner felt the member didn't offend anyone and didn't need moderation. I never felt it was my group and I was just there to help get it set up and started and to help moderate. So my job was really over at that point anyway. I ended up leaving the group at a later time since I felt if I wasn't trusted as a co-owner, I was not needed and would be better off somewhere else. There was another moderator so I wasn't really essential to the group's continuation. Though no harm was done there, it could be a situation where some other co-owner takes over the group. I heard about that happening in a Yahoo group a long time ago. The owner got tired of running things and asked for volunteers to take over. The person who took the job of being owner got a power trip and started making lots of rules. Everyone went somewhere else and they started their own group. :-) Donald Join the Icom group, a general Icom discussion group on Groups.io: /g/ICOM (just launched)
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Re: Post preview for links... like Google+ and Facebook and Twitter...
#postpreviews
I want to know if someone know if Mark Fletcher study the question. ^^
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I don't think there's any way of knowing unless he comments on it in beta.
If you don't want to receive all of beta's messages just to see if he comments on your post that would be a good use for the Advanced Preferences in your subscription to beta: Following Only + Auto Follow Replies.
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Shal
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Re: Post preview for links... like Google+ and Facebook and Twitter...
#postpreviews
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 12:50 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean.
If you're talking about Mark Fletcher (Groups.io developer) he is back from vacation but he doesn't read GMF so he wouldn't even know this question has been raised.
I've not heard anything about it since your post in beta:
I want to know if someone know if Mark Fletcher study the question. ^^
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Is there a add member option?
Direct Add is a Premium feature. If you have only occasional need to add members you can choose the Premium For One Month plan which will give you 30 days to add members, then reverts automatically to Basic. I do that yearly with my PTA group at school registration - when that group gets 90+% of its new members.
Shal
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Hi I am owner of a couple of groups. Is there a add member option? Or can we only invite I can not find anywhere to add people to groups Thanks Sugar
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It's all moot now. Mark removed me from the group. He can't explain why I was getting that message, but I don't really care now that I finally got out of the group. Thank you all for trying to help get this resolved.
Judy
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of RickGlaz Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 1:35 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] Owner left Have you tried to contact the original Owner? "They" are the best (easiest) way to resolve this -- IF they can be reached and are willing to co-operate with you. "They" could assign you as an "Owner", (Co-Owner actually), ---then delete themselves OR give you that "permission level" - to do it. This is generally set up this way to prevent hostile takeovers of a Group. Rick (a normal Group member, mostly) [excess quote trimmed by moderator]
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I got a note from Mark and I've added some additional details. Essentially I asked him to either delete the group or remove me from it. I hope he has better luck than I've had. Since he wrote the programming for groups.io, he should be able to remove me or delete the group.
Judy
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of RickGlaz Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 1:35 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] Owner left Have you tried to contact the original Owner? "They" are the best (easiest) way to resolve this -- IF they can be reached and are willing to co-operate with you. "They" could assign you as an "Owner", (Co-Owner actually), ---then delete themselves OR give you that "permission level" - to do it. This is generally set up this way to prevent hostile takeovers of a Group. Rick (a normal Group member, mostly) On January 21, 2019 at 12:18 PM Shadow Grafix <shadowgrafix@...> wrote:
I don't have access to the membership list to figure out how to give someone else moderator privileges. I'm not the owner of this group. I'm still listed as the moderator. My preference would be to have groups.io remove the list all together. I'm written to support and hope I hear from them soon.
Judy
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Have you tried to contact the original Owner?
"They" are the best (easiest) way to resolve this -- IF they can be reached
and are willing to co-operate with you.
"They" could assign you as an "Owner", (Co-Owner actually),
---then delete themselves OR give you that "permission level" - to do it.
This is generally set up this way to prevent hostile takeovers of a Group.
Rick (a normal Group member, mostly)
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On January 21, 2019 at 12:18 PM Shadow Grafix <shadowgrafix@...> wrote:
I don't have access to the membership list to figure out how to give someone else moderator privileges. I'm not the owner of this group. I'm still listed as the moderator. My preference would be to have groups.io remove the list all together. I'm written to support and hope I hear from them soon.
Judy
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Re: Footer info at bottom of group messages
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I don't have access to the membership list to figure out how to give someone else moderator privileges. I'm not the owner of this group. I'm still listed as the moderator. My preference would be to have groups.io remove the list all together. I'm written to support and hope I hear from them soon.
Judy
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Fabien Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 9:17 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] Owner left What actually happens, if The owner of the group does leave the group? Also, are you able to give someone else admin privileges, or can there be only one admin?
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Footer info at bottom of group messages
The footer at the bottom that contains all that stuff like links etc which is not controlled by the group owner and its fine within the group but if you want to forward an email from the group to a person not in the group or to a different group that's when it becomes a problem. Sometimes it's just too complicated to move the mail info to a 'new' email and add attachments again.
Is there any way at all that we can delete it on a? 'Forward'?
Thank you
Loopy
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Re: Does a message recipient that is in multiple subgroups receive multiple copies of same email?
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 12:03 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
> ... is there a setting that enables receipt of only one copy of the
> message?
No.
Since a member of any subgroup must also be a member of the primary
group, it is possible that in this scenario the better option would be
to post the message to the primary group. Then everyone would be sent
only one copy.
Shal
While that may avoid the problem in some cases, there will be others were it is inappropriate: when there are main group members who are not members of any of those three sub-groups (maybe of others, or none), and who should not receive the message. Another consideration is what happens if a member has different delivery options for different sub-groups (or the primary) Possibly a suggestion that should be raised on beta... Jeremy
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