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Re: Delete Messages

 

Donald,

I thought there was an option that could be set to delete the oldest
messages as new ones came in only after the storage space hit the
limit.
That option deletes the attachments, not the message bodies.

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Re: Yahoo group transfer "no email" #transfer #yahoo

 

randsjmj,

Maybe change all Y!group /No Email/ to Special Notices
What is the best way to do this? (I guess this is really a yahoo
question. I did try searching online but no luck.)
So far as I know you have to do them one by one. But if your Groups.io group is going to be set to Disallow No Email then you needn't do this, unless it is to ensure that they receive the "we're moving" announcement in the Y!Group.

What I did instead was export the Y!Group members list as CSV (these were groups of fewer than 1000 members) and open that in Excel. This let me sort the list by the Delivery column. Then in the "Email" column I selected all the addresses belonging no No Email members and copied them. I then pasted that list of addresses into a BCC on a message I sent to them off-list (with my Gmail account). Because each group had only a few dozen No Email members that wasn't disallowed by Gmail. If you have hundreds that might be a different story.

As a footnote: I had previously removed the Bouncing addresses from the list in excel. Nevertheless several of the "No Email" addresses bounced when I sent to them by Gmail. I suspect that Y!Groups detection of bad addresses is less than fully reliable.

For a different reason I set all No Email members to Moderated in the Y!Group. That I did have to do one by one via the Manage Members list, but having them sorted out in Excel made that easier.

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Re: Delete Messages

 

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Thanks - that information is good to know and I will?be using it.
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Date: 11/4/2018 6:04:02 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Delete Messages
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Beck,
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? > Good Afternoon is there any way to empty the storage of old messages ?
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As Ilene said, you can delete them one topic at a time. Or one message
at a time if you switch the list to Message view.
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There is also a "batch mode" in testing. If you append "-test" to the
address when you're looking at the message list in Topics view then you
will see checkboxes to the left of each topic. Like this, but use your
own group name, not GroupManagersForum (you must be a moderator or owner
of the group to see it):
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You can then use the red Delete button at the top of the page to delete
all the topics you've selected. This allows you to delete a page full of
topics at once.
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CAUTION: there is no undo, no backup, nor other protection if you make a
mistake or later regret it. That's in part why this "bulk" feature is
still only in testing and not otherwise available.
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If you could tell us why you want to remove them we may be able to
suggest an alternative that would suit. For example, if the concern is
over storage space you needn't worry: message content isn't counted
against your group's quota. Attachments to the messages, and photos in
the messages do count however.
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Re: Delete Messages

 

Duane . . .

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 15:40:19 -0800, "Duane" <txpigeon@...>
wrote:

There's not a way to keep them deleted as new posts come in, other than manually, but if someone has decided to remove all currently existing posts, in effect starting over, it would be a different situation
I thought there was an option that could be set to delete the oldest
messages as new ones came in only after the storage space hit the
limit.

Donald


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Re: Delete Messages

 

Beck,

Good Afternoon is there any way to empty the storage of old messages ?
As Ilene said, you can delete them one topic at a time. Or one message at a time if you switch the list to Message view.

There is also a "batch mode" in testing. If you append "-test" to the address when you're looking at the message list in Topics view then you will see checkboxes to the left of each topic. Like this, but use your own group name, not GroupManagersForum (you must be a moderator or owner of the group to see it):
/g/GroupManagersForum/topics-test

You can then use the red Delete button at the top of the page to delete all the topics you've selected. This allows you to delete a page full of topics at once.

CAUTION: there is no undo, no backup, nor other protection if you make a mistake or later regret it. That's in part why this "bulk" feature is still only in testing and not otherwise available.


If you could tell us why you want to remove them we may be able to suggest an alternative that would suit. For example, if the concern is over storage space you needn't worry: message content isn't counted against your group's quota. Attachments to the messages, and photos in the messages do count however.

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Re: Delete Messages

 

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Thanks - yes that was what I was told.
But if more owners are asking for it and more owners want?or need that option maybe it will be made a higher priority. Jusk thinking. Ilene?
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Date: 11/4/2018 5:40:46 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Delete Messages
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On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 05:32 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I had once asked support if there was a way to have all my messages deleted as I didn't want to have the messages visible to my members and I was told there wasn't.
There's not a way to keep them deleted as new posts come in, other than manually, but if someone has decided to remove all currently existing posts, in effect starting over, it would be a different situation.? I would think that would only happen if a group moved from Y!G and decided they shouldn't have copied the messages.? If it were repetitive, I could see where Mark wouldn't want to do it, but he might consider a one-time total deletion.

Bulk delete of various items is on the TODO list, just not a high priority.

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Re: Delete Messages

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 05:32 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I had once asked support if there was a way to have all my messages deleted as I didn't want to have the messages visible to my members and I was told there wasn't.
There's not a way to keep them deleted as new posts come in, other than manually, but if someone has decided to remove all currently existing posts, in effect starting over, it would be a different situation.? I would think that would only happen if a group moved from Y!G and decided they shouldn't have copied the messages.? If it were repetitive, I could see where Mark wouldn't want to do it, but he might consider a one-time total deletion.

Bulk delete of various items is on the TODO list, just not a high priority.

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Re: Yahoo group transfer "no email" #transfer #yahoo

 

They should be set to Special.? That's what happens if you change to disallowing "No Email" on an existing group.

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Re: Delete Messages

 

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I had once asked support if there was a way to have all my messages deleted as I didn't want to have the messages visible to my members and I was told there wasn't.
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If more people write to support about this issue, maybe it would become a change that will be made so we can?bulk delete messages if we wanted?to. Ilene?
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From: Duane
Date: 11/4/2018 5:26:19 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Delete Messages
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If you want to delete all messages, this may be a special situation where [email protected] would be willing to help.? No guarantees, but it can't hurt to ask.? If you're just wanting to get rid of some older, possibly non-useful posts, you'll need to do it one-by-one.

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Yahoo group transfer "no email" #transfer #yahoo

 
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What happens to members of a Yahoo group that have their subscription set to "no email" when the group gets transferred to a Groups.io group that does not allow the "no email" option?

Do those members get brought over with another message delivery option? (if so what?)
Or do they not get brought over?
Or something else?

I did see in the "How to prepare" Wiki the suggestion:
Maybe change all Y!group No Email to Special Notices
What is the best way to do this? (I guess this is really a yahoo question. I did try searching online but no luck.)

Thanks!


Re: Delete Messages

 

If you want to delete all messages, this may be a special situation where [email protected] would be willing to help.? No guarantees, but it can't hurt to ask.? If you're just wanting to get rid of some older, possibly non-useful posts, you'll need to do it one-by-one.

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Re: Delete Messages

 

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I believe you have to delete them one by one
Go to your messages and click the arrow?by the message which?brings up a drop box and select delete topic.
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Then you will see are you sure you want to delete it and select yes.
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Date: 11/04/18 15:30:45
Subject: [GMF] Delete Messages
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Good Afternoon is there any way to empty the storage of old messages ?
If there is would some one help me.
Thank You for any help you can give me.

Have a great day,
Beck
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Re: who gets Updates at Groups.io?

 

Anne,

Toby wrote:

Yes, per the following post, new members created in a transfer are
subscribed to updates.
Please see /g/GroupManagersForum/message/7547
Well, there's egg on my face.

I went looking for that update and missed it (this time). Then decided that the older post in beta must still be right.

My apologies for the misinformation in my prior reply.

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Delete Messages

 

Good Afternoon is there any way to empty the storage of old messages ?
If there is would some one help me.
Thank You for any help you can give me.

Have a great day,
Beck


Re: who gets Updates at Groups.io?

 

Anne,

A neighbor wants to transfer her PTA Yahoo list to groups.io and
wanted to know if all members of the group are automatically
subscribed to [email protected]
No, members copied in from a Y!Group by the transfer agent are not subscribed to the Updates group.

It also does not apply to email +subscription or Direct Add.
/g/beta/message/5447

Am I subscribed because of that status?
It doesn't have anything to do with one's status as owner or moderator of a group. It is default for people who sign up at Groups.io web site on their own, which you likely did before starting your group.

Are ordinary subscribers also sent updates?
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but the Updates group very rarely sends any messages to its members. Mark's weekly site update messages are posted there, but not sent out as email.

Shal


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Re: who gets Updates at Groups.io?

 

Yes, per the following post, new members created in a transfer are subscribed to updates.
Please see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/7547
Thanks
Toby


Re: who gets Updates at Groups.io?

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Anne =^..^= wrote:
A neighbor wants to transfer her PTA Yahoo list to groups.io and wanted to know if all members of the group are automatically subscribed to [email protected].?
Yes, everyone who undergoes a transfer is automatically subscribed to Updates. However, all messages posted there are tagged with a #changelog hashtag to keep them from being sent out as emails. In that sense, no one is ever "sent an update"...subscribers?must proactively go to the updates group and read them from the message archive. Those who still find this objectionable can always unsubscribe.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

P.S. Weekly updates are also typically cross-posted both here and in the beta group.
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Re: How do you get messages in your group to reply to sender? #bug

 

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Stephanie,

It is definitely set correctly. I've tried setting it and updating the group like 12 times.

Another place to verify the setting is on the group's home page:

Screenshot of
          the Group Settings section of the home page

I'm not sure, but you may need to manually refresh the browser page after changing the setting to see the change appear.

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Re: How do you get messages in your group to reply to sender? #bug

 

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Stephanie,

As suggested, I went next to the "to" address and clicked the little "Show Details" arrow. The?Reply-To?field goes to the group.

That definitively points the finger at the group's setting.

It seems groups.io is not setting the field correctly. Does anyone else have their groups.io group set to "Reply to Sender" and it works as intended?

I set my test group to Sender:

screenshot of group's Reply To setting

And sent a message:

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          of gmail details pop-up

As you can see, no reply-to field, which means it worked as intended.

So either there's some kind of glitch with your group at Groups.io, or I suppose the "is it plugged in?" question would be: are you sure you're adjusting the setting of the correct group?

For example, if your group has subgroups each subgroup has its own settings page.

Shal


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Re: How do you get messages in your group to reply to sender? #bug

Gerald Boutin
 

Stephanie,

Are you referring to reply by email or reply on the web interface, or does the problem occur in both instances?

I've confirmed that the settings and behavior work as expected for me. Occasionally I have found that if a setting doesn't seem to work, changing it back and forth will get it going.

Using the web interface, reset the "Reply to" option back to "Group". Click on "Update Group" at the bottom of the page.

Select a message in the group and click on "Reply". Is "Reply to Group" selected (green)?
Discard the message.

Go?back to Settings and set the "Reply to" option to "Sender".
Check the box below for "Remove other Reply Options"
Click on "Update Group" at the bottom of the page.

Select a message in the group and click on "Reply". What option(s) are there for replying?

If the only option is "Reply to Sender", then we know that the UI is working. If not, there would appear to be a bug that needs to be reported to support.

If it is shown correctly, you should probably select a post that you made and then reply to it. Does it only go the sender now?

I also checked the behavior when reply via Gmail and although there are options for both "Reply" and "Reply to All", both only send the email to the sender.

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