No, the group isn't an announcement group.
There are members who can post to the group. Maybe 15 or so of them.
The others settings are set that they cannot post.
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Yes, hindsight is 20/20
I didn't think there would be a problem.
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The message archive issue was another problem. It is not associated with the Poll problem and it concerned another group of mine. That issue has since been solved with the locking of messages and instructing the group that we run an email group.
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Most of my members are elderly, handicapped and are computer illiterate. I am not computer savoy myself.
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It is all I can do is have them reply to messages and in some groups share some graphics and stuff. To teach them to use hashtags would be impossible.
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My groups aren't as complicated as some of the groups here and reading the posts. All we need is a simple basic platform to send emails to a group from.
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Date: 10/12/2018 6:39:43 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Polls
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The members who offer these tags for free are the only ones who are allowed to post to the group. They put up tag offers where the members then reply (replies go to the sender) and they request the tag to have their name added to it. Ilene -- As you noted, posting and responding to polls currently have the same member permissions. Splitting them will not be a trivial exercise. Trying to help, but am not clear on your settings. Do you currently have an Announcement group? This setting is not at all unusual, and like you, I would not have anticipated it having an adverse effect on polls. Hindsight is 20/20... Some time ago we talked about trying to use hashtags to implement your requirements with respect to disabling the message archive (see /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/25505828#11723?). As I recall, this involved the following settings in Message Policies: Hashtags Required Hashtag Permissions -- Use existing hashtags, others bounced Then set up just one hashtag for the entire group that only Moderators can use and deletes the topic after a short duration. I suspect if you were to follow that recommendation from a month ago, you might be able to maintain your posting restrictions while allowing subscribers to respond to polls. Your Moderators would of course have to remember to use the hashtag every time. Failing that, I think you might have to set up a Restricted subgroup, direct add everyone to that, and post your polls there. Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 02:30 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
The members who offer these tags for free are the only ones who are allowed to post to the group. They put up tag offers where the members then reply (replies go to the sender) and they request the tag to have their name added to it.
Ilene -- As you noted, posting and responding to polls currently have the same member permissions. Splitting them will not be a trivial exercise. Trying to help, but am not clear on your settings. Do you currently have an Announcement group? This setting is not at all unusual, and like you, I would not have anticipated it having an adverse effect on polls. Hindsight is 20/20... Some time ago we talked about trying to use hashtags to implement your requirements with respect to disabling the message archive (see /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/25505828#11723?). As I recall, this involved the following settings in Message Policies: Hashtags Required Hashtag Permissions -- Use existing hashtags, others bounced Then set up just one hashtag for the entire group that only Moderators can use and deletes the topic after a short duration. I suspect if you were to follow that recommendation from a month ago, you might be able to maintain your posting restrictions while allowing subscribers to respond to polls. Your Moderators would of course have to remember to use the hashtag every time. Failing that, I think you might have to set up a Restricted subgroup, direct add everyone to that, and post your polls there. Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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How to display time of posting
A member in my group asked this question: Can the time be displayed on the messages posted??
Before I answer, I have done a bit of research and found that on the email client I use, the time is always displayed. I don't know how other client programs handle this. However, when looking at posts using the web browser (I use Chrome; others may handle this differently), the time of the posts are only displayed for the current calendar day. Posts from previous days only show the date.?
I vaguely recall this topic being discussed before in this group, but I couldn't find it using the search function.?
Is there a way to force the time of posting to display on all messages? Am I missing a setting? Or is this something I should take to the beta list?
Dave
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¡°So now I am thinking that this is a BUG..... All members regardless of their posting privileges should be able to vote in a poll.¡± ? Maybe all members should be able to vote in a poll no matter what their posting privileges are in your group, but not in my group. Until a member posts at least one thing for me to approve, so I can try and determine they are not going to be a problem, they don¡¯t get to participate in polls or posting to the group. ? Don
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At this time that cannot happen unless you give all the members posting privileges in the group. If you are the only one able to post to the group, then you will be the only one able to vote in the poll at this time.
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What I?think needs to happen if you write to support letting Mark know that you'd like that option too and others write to support saying they would like that option?and it isn't?only me that asked about it, then maybe it will happen quicker. ?
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What it think happened over this past year or so, many of the graphic art type groups moved to groups IO. From the discussions I have read in this GMF group, most of the group owner's needs are different from ours who run graphic art type groups.
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Date: 10/12/2018 1:31:03 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Polls
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I own a group sharing my email stationary, signature tag offers and Paintshop Pro tutorials. I am the only one posting, but would like all members to be able to take part in polls.
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Mark answered my support question pretty quickly.
His response is below in italics. It is also good to know that I wasn't imagining that some members weren't able to vote. I will now?delete the existing poll I have open in my group. ?Ilene
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Thanks for the suggestion. It would not be a quick or easy change. I'll add it to the TODO list for consideration, but I'm not sure if or when it will happen.?
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Date: 10/12/2018 11:29:07 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Polls
? On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:47 AM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
All members regardless of their posting privileges should?be able to vote in a poll. Yes and no.? A poll is a message, so those that can't post shouldn't be able to respond.? I do agree (I think) that anyone should be able to vote in a poll though.? Mark may be able to tweak this if you send a report to support. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Is there a quick link to existing polls?
Your poll must be working well because all of the members have posting privileges in the group.
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Go to the Homepage of the group.
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Scroll down to the bottom and you will see #poll
Click on that and it will take you to the poll.
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Date: 10/12/2018 11:19:58 AM
Subject: [GMF] Is there a quick link to existing polls?
? I see lots of discussions about polls, but here's something very basic I can't figure out.? I created a poll and it is in progress and working well.? The members comment that it is easy to use.? If I am on the homepage of the group I cannot find a direct link in the left column leading me to the poll.? There are links for files, databases, and creating a new poll, but I can't find one for an existing poll.? I know I can link to it via the message announcing its creation, just wondering if there's another link that I'm not seeing. Thanks in advance!!!
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On 12 Oct 2018, at 17:20, Chris Jones via Groups.Io < chrisjones12@...> wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:47 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
All members regardless of their posting privileges should?be able to vote in a poll.
And why is that exactly? Speaking for myself I cannot see any circumstances whereby I would join or remain in any group where I could not post. I also cannot see why members who cannot post should be able to vote in a poll. To misquote George Orwell... All Group Members are equal, but some are more equal than others... Chris
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Okay you?said you won't want to join a group where you couldn't post.
Let me explain about this group. We are a group of over 700 members.
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This?group is a Signature?Tag group. Members join to get?signature tags that they can use in their email that are personalized with their name.?
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The members who offer these tags for free are the only ones who are allowed to post to the group. They put up tag offers where the members then reply (replies go to the sender) and they request the tag to have their name added to it.
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So there isn't any reason for all the members being able?to post to the group.?
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But in the case of the poll, it involved all the members feedback.
I started playing games for tags in the group. Most members when playing the game enjoyed them but I wanted to find out if the majority of the members wanted the games to continue. That was the reason for needing the feedback from the members in the poll. I didn't need all the extra mail coming from them telling me their thoughts and how they couldn't vote.
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Date: 10/12/18 11:29:07
Subject: Re: [GMF] Polls
? On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:47 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
All members regardless of their posting privileges should?be able to vote in a poll. And why is that exactly? Speaking for myself I cannot see any circumstances whereby I would join or remain in any group where I could not post. I also cannot see why members who cannot post should be able to vote in a poll. To misquote George Orwell... All Group Members are equal, but some are more equal than others... Chris
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Re: Posts passing without being approved
Duane, ? I will check this again and then see if it?s maybe my fault of mixing up terminology. Thanks anyway Victoria
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I will send a report to support.
I didn't know?a poll?was considered a?message. ?
But I do think all should be able to vote.
I am glad that I had this poll in this group to notice this.
Ilene
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Date: 10/12/18 11:29:07
Subject: Re: [GMF] Polls
? On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:47 AM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
All members regardless of their posting privileges should?be able to vote in a poll. Yes and no.? A poll is a message, so those that can't post shouldn't be able to respond.? I do agree (I think) that anyone should be able to vote in a poll though.? Mark may be able to tweak this if you send a report to support. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Owner not showing up on member list
Michael,
You're right..."infinite?scroll" does not work on databases.? We have a database with 38 rows that displayed on 2 pages with "infinite scroll" setting.? Switched to "100 per page" and now on one page.? Thanks again for the tip on finding that option!
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Re: Is there a quick link to existing polls?
The quickest way I've found is to select Hashtags on the left menu, then choose the #Poll tag.? That will get a list of all of them and you can choose the one you want from there.? If you have very many, using a direct link/bookmark would be faster. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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I agree it isn't obvious! Click on Messages or Topics just beside the search box. Polls is an item in the dropdown menu. Frances 
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:47 AM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
All members regardless of their posting privileges should?be able to vote in a poll.
Yes and no.? A poll is a message, so those that can't post shouldn't be able to respond.? I do agree (I think) that anyone should be able to vote in a poll though.? Mark may be able to tweak this if you send a report to support. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:47 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
All members regardless of their posting privileges should?be able to vote in a poll.
And why is that exactly? Speaking for myself I cannot see any circumstances whereby I would join or remain in any group where I could not post. I also cannot see why members who cannot post should be able to vote in a poll. To misquote George Orwell... All Group Members are equal, but some are more equal than others... Chris
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Is there a quick link to existing polls?
I see lots of discussions about polls, but here's something very basic I can't figure out.? I created a poll and it is in progress and working well.? The members comment that it is easy to use.? If I am on the homepage of the group I cannot find a direct link in the left column leading me to the poll.? There are links for files, databases, and creating a new poll, but I can't find one for an existing poll.? I know I can link to it via the message announcing its creation, just wondering if there's another link that I'm not seeing.
Thanks in advance!!!
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Okay I did a test on my own and my conclusion on polls is as follows:
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Beck wrote to this group GMF saying she couldn't see my poll therefore she couldn't vote. She is in my group. She didn't have posting privileges in the group. I had found that only members?who could send mail to the group were able to vote. So what I did was?change her status so she could post to the group...............?and wrote to her privately letting her know I changed her status and to try again to vote.
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Well now that she can post to the group she was able to vote in the poll.?
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So now I am thinking that this is a BUG.....
All members regardless of their posting privileges should?be able to vote in a poll.
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Date: 10/11/2018 1:42:23 PM
Subject: [GMF] Polls
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I sent an email about a poll a while ago and didn't receive any answer.
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I created a poll to a group where only a handful of members out of 703 members can post to the group.?
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It seems the only members who were able to vote in the poll were the members who can post mail to the group. The others received messages back saying the poll was unavailable to them.
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I went over the list of things they needed to do, like make sure they were signed in.
Only to receive a note from one member saying "I am NOT DUMB" I was signed in.
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Now a?member rejoined because she accidently removed herself while trying to vote in the poll and before I could change her status so she can't post in the group, she voted.
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So now I am beginning to think that only members who can write to the group can vote in polls. Ilene
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Re: Owner not showing up on member list
I'll try "Infinite Scroll" for a while and see how it works. I tried ¡°infinite Scroll¡±, however there was something about it (I forget what) that did not apply universally as do all the finite choices. I now use "100 per page¡±.
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