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Show original sender for posts via forwarded emails. #howto

 

We have a small management group that receives outside posts from participants and government announcements via a subscription service. We are currently running on Google Groups. I cannot duplicate the mechanism we use in Google Groups under Groups.io. I am looking for a way to do this or an alternate approach. I want the outside participants and the subscription service to be able to send posts via email, but not do anything else in the group. I want group members to see who sent the posts. I want it simple.

For the Google Groups we set up an email address funnel@... that automatically forwards emails to ourgroup@.... An email post from fred@... sent to funnel@... shows in the group with fred@... and not funnel@.... This has worked fine for a few years. About a year ago, the government delivery service made some sort of change that screwed the subscriptions up. Now when the government sends out any notice we get unsubscribed within seconds. The delivery service does nto seem to know or care when it happening.

I tried a similar setup for groups.io, but all outside posts show up as from funnel@... and fred@... doesn't show up anywhere. The group is not usable without the original sender's information.

Any suggestions?

Thanks


Re: Transfer Time #transfer #yahoo

 

Oh boy.? I guess they are still backed up.

Thanks for the report, appreciate it.


Re: Bulk Remove

 

I think I have the settings set at deleting older attachments.
I will check to make sure and if not set it that way.
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So?by deleting older attachments?when I reach 100% it doesn't really matter or make a difference to how the group will be run.
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No, I am not selective at all in what can or would be deleted.
My group never used the message feature for anything. We are basically using the group to get what is shared from Emailing them.
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All that is sent through the group is saved via email.? The archives aren't important to my group at all.
So to me all can be deleted without any worry for me.
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Thanks, Ilene?
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Date: 8/17/2018 2:14:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Bulk Remove
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While a bulk remove feature for messages (and their attachments) does seem
useful abd should be considered... it won't be as convenient for you as
features already available.
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It seems to me that in your case setting your group's "Out of Space" settings
to delete old(er) attachments when the group is out of space would achieve
pretty much this same purpose with considerably less ongoing effort on your
part. It will also delete as needed... giving slightly better retention time
than if you delete something a week (or whatever) before auto delete would
have deleted it. Granted auto deletion doesn't allow for selectivity, but
when you're running out as fast as you are, you probably can't afford to be
all that selective for very long anyhow.
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Jim H
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Re: Topics

 

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 04:46 PM, Joan C wrote:
It was my understanding that you couldn¡¯t have multiple topics all with the exact same wording. Is this correct? Or not?
If you're referring to the Subject line, that's not strictly correct.

See??for the definitive answer.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Re: Bulk Remove

 

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How do you auto remove?
That is what I want to do. I don't mind if all are auto removed. Less labor intensive then deleting them one by one.
Ilene?
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Date: 8/17/2018 2:40:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Bulk Remove
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I don't think the actual messages count against your storage total.? i.e message archives have no limit but attachments do
So as Jim H said, auto remove the most ancient attachments seems a less labor intensive way to go.
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Re: Bulk Remove

 

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I meant to refer attachments?rather then messages.
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I don't need to become a premium member at cost because this is a hobby?of mine and I can close the group in a heartbeat as the group is basically an email group and not a forum where the messages are important to be read. I can delete them all each month and start from using 0.
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But right now I need to know?if and how I can delete all of the attachments without having to do them one by one.
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These are my stats
Attachments are now at 88% after I deleted a whole bunch.
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Photos - 0%
Files 25 KB
Database 0%
Wiki 0%
Integrations 0 out of 5
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About brutal deletions it would be all okay to delete all. Ilene
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Date: 8/17/2018 2:40:38 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Bulk Remove
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 06:11 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I would like a bulk remove feature for deleting messages (archives)
Especially the ones with attachments that are?eating up all of my allotted space.
Don't forget that deleting messages is pointless if you are running out of storage space because messages don't count towards your available total. OK deleting attachments will help, but not the messages themselves.
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One of my groups is a graphic group and it is already at 1GB's in one month's
time. Ilene ?
Graphics are likely to guzzle storage space, and you might have to consider becoming a Premium Group (at cost) to get more, especially if you are getting close to the limit in just a month.

What percentage of your space has been taken up by each of Files, Attachments and Photos? Some fairly brutal deletions might be necessary, IMHO.

Chris
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Re: Bulk Remove

 

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I have looked at the attachment section and can delete them from there but?one by one. There has to be a better way to do that.
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Unless I am missing something, the Wiki pages do not address this?problem of free up space with attachments any different then I have been doing one by one.
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Right now?the messages have to be deleted one by one and in a month exactly my group?hit it's quota. Now my group is treated basically as an email group and not a forum where messages can be read at the home site or even replied to there. But I would really like to delete by bulk. Ilene?
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Date: 8/17/2018 3:46:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Bulk Remove
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 01:11 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I would like a bulk remove feature for deleting messages (archives)
Especially the ones with attachments that are?eating up all of my allotted space.
See the wiki entry on this at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos

You might want to particularly look at the Attachments section. Click on the Size tab to sort by size.
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Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Topics

 

Joan,

You can lock the topic - use the little menu from the bottom of the message. Then re-use the topic by creating a new post. Any replies to the new message go to the new message.

I just tested it and it works.

Frances


Topics

 

It was my understanding that you couldn¡¯t have multiple topics all with the exact same wording. Is this correct? Or not?
I wanted to pin a topic thread to the top of our page that people who want to have extraneous chat could post to...but now we have 3 topics all with the same name...
Since ?I wrote them all , I know they are written exactly the same.?
Other than replying to the topic, is there a way to manage this?
Joan C


Re: Bulk Remove

 

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 01:11 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I would like a bulk remove feature for deleting messages (archives)
Especially the ones with attachments that are?eating up all of my allotted space.
See the wiki entry on this at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos

You might want to particularly look at the Attachments section. Click on the Size tab to sort by size.
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Regards,
Bruce
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The system Help is your friend.??/static/help


Re: Bulk Remove

 

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 06:11 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I would like a bulk remove feature for deleting messages (archives)
Especially the ones with attachments that are?eating up all of my allotted space.
Don't forget that deleting messages is pointless if you are running out of storage space because messages don't count towards your available total. OK deleting attachments will help, but not the messages themselves.
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One of my groups is a graphic group and it is already at 1GB's in one month's
time. Ilene ?
Graphics are likely to guzzle storage space, and you might have to consider becoming a Premium Group (at cost) to get more, especially if you are getting close to the limit in just a month.

What percentage of your space has been taken up by each of Files, Attachments and Photos? Some fairly brutal deletions might be necessary, IMHO.

Chris


Re: Bulk Remove

 

I don't think the actual messages count against your storage total.? i.e message archives have no limit but attachments do
So as Jim H said, auto remove the most ancient attachments seems a less labor intensive way to go.
--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends??
Founder & Executive Director,?


Re: Bulk Remove

Jim Higgins
 

While a bulk remove feature for messages (and their attachments) does seem useful abd should be considered... it won't be as convenient for you as features already available.

It seems to me that in your case setting your group's "Out of Space" settings to delete old(er) attachments when the group is out of space would achieve pretty much this same purpose with considerably less ongoing effort on your part. It will also delete as needed... giving slightly better retention time than if you delete something a week (or whatever) before auto delete would have deleted it. Granted auto deletion doesn't allow for selectivity, but when you're running out as fast as you are, you probably can't afford to be all that selective for very long anyhow.

Jim H



Received from magicalkingdomgroups@... at 8/17/2018 02:36 PM UTC:

I would like a bulk remove feature for deleting messages (archives) Especially the ones with attachments that are eating up all of my allotted space. deleting them one by one is a long time consuming process but needs to be done to free up Some space. One of my groups is a graphic group and it is already at 1GB's in one month's time. Ilene


Re: Transfer Time #transfer #yahoo

 

My small group just got transferred today¡ªit took a little over 2 weeks!

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Transfer Time #transfer #yahoo

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Is their still a backlog of transfers to Groups.io still?? What is the realistic time for a migration right now?

Anyone who just completed one -- how long did it take for yours to be completed?

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Transfer Time #transfer #yahoo

 

Is their still a backlog of transfers to Groups.io still?? What is the realistic time for a migration right now?

Anyone who just completed one -- how long did it take for yours to be completed?


Re: Bulk Remove

 

I would like a bulk remove feature for deleting messages (archives)
Especially the ones with attachments that are?eating up all of my allotted space.
deleting them one by one is a long time consuming process but needs to be done to free up
Some space. One of my groups is a graphic group and it is already at 1GB's in one month's
time. Ilene ?
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Date: 8/17/2018 8:23:43 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Bulk Remove
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No. You check the box(es) next to the member(s) and then drop down to the
"Actions" button. Click it to open a list of actions and select REMOVE to
remove all the checked members.
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Bulk remove is if you have a list of email addresses or user names. go ahead
and click Bulk Remove - it's safe to do that - and you'll see the info it wants.
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Jim H


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Re: Group for blind managers

 

On 2018-08-16 9:52 p.m., Marv Waschke wrote:
Therefore, combining sighted and blind moderator's forums is a simplification.
Maybe. Maybe not.

A person that doesn't use a screen reader, doesn't need to know how to
skip the first 500+ words on a page, each time they approve/reject a
message.

For a person that uses a screen reader, knowing how to do so, can save
five or more minutes, per message to be approved/rejected.

A group that dealt with the issues of using a11y tools on the Groups.IO
site might be useful. Not just blind list managers, but MS suffers, for
example. (This group tends to use joysticks for data input.)

If one is going to go the hashtag route, then hashtags for the name of
the screen reader are needed. (#Jaws, #WindowEyes, #Orca, #NVDIA, etc.)
Additionally:
* #Perkins - Perkings Keyboard;
* #Joystick - Joystick used for input;
* #BrailleDisplay --- Braille Display Monitor;

Maybe hashtags for the specific virtual keyboards, and/or mouse
emulation software and/or voice input software would also be useful.

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I can see it now. A message with hashtags #Dragon #JAWS #Blind, but no
hashtag for the specific problem.

jonathon


Re: Change in order of how messages are presented

 

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Beth Weld wrote:
Documentation tends to focus on the complicated, but to others, simple is complicated.
Positively Zen - like. Perhaps there should be a "Zen" Hashtag... :)

Chris


Re: Questions about conversion to Groups.Io

 

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 02:23 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Were most of these people previously on Special Notices or No Email? Those accounts often end up getting moved anyway...they can't be Bouncing if nothing is being sent to them.
Come to think of it, er, yes I think most of them were, and it was the "welcome" message that triggered a bounce.?

Thanks for thinking of that.

Chris


Re: Google thinks I am a spammer when I send group notices #spam

Jim Higgins
 

This is insane! Google is saying they can't determine whether the email came from your account, but then go on to say the real sender does not have access to your account. How do they know if they don't know? They're using spam detection methods that should have died in the late 90s and making it up as they go along.

It seems to me that you're getting this only because it appears to be from you. I'd just ignore it... because your chance of talking to anyone at Google (Yahoo, Hotmail, etc) is about zero... or add a second non-Google address to your account and post group notices from there. Then - at least as far as Google can see - you're not sending to yourself.

Jim H



Received from Nelson Vergel at 8/16/2018 03:23 PM UTC:

Hello everyone
I am the manager of pozhealth and I am getting this warning from Google when I post a group notice. What can I do to let Google know I am not a spammer? Thanks
Screen pic attached.
Nelson