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Re: Transfer Timeline

 

It all depends on the backlog and any plans/changes being made for the site.? It can be as short as 24 hours or as long as 3-4 weeks.

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Re: #membership #suggestion #suggestion #membership

 

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 06:58 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
The major downside is that a basic (free) group may only have 5 of them, but if you don't mind them arriving with the same display name then your repos could share an integration address.
Another option is to pay for an upgrade to Premium. Then you could Direct Add those addresses without confirmation and set them directly to No Email, without concern about going over the 5-integration limit or confusing one repo vs the other.

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Re: #membership #suggestion #suggestion #membership

 

Emre,

So, when I receive a message from a non-subscriber (I have enabled this in settings), and I click "Approve and unmoderate senders", the sender is not automatically subscribed.?

I think it may be a bug that you're shown that button on a non-subscriber. Maybe there should be a different button for "Approve and add to group" or something, but "unmoderate" is the wrong function there.
Is there any way to add an address that can't receive email and allow them to post messages without moderation?

Yes, use an email Integration. See the Integrations page (in the Admin group of buttons, on the left in your group). See also the (somewhat scanty) help for integrations.

The major downside is that a basic (free) group may only have 5 of them, but if you don't mind them arriving with the same display name then your repos could share an integration address.

Shal


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Re: Photo question

 

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 05:46 PM, Bill Burns wrote:
I assume it's then the case that these images are also not restricted by
the size limits on images which are set as part of the list's policy.
This seems like it could be a problem if someone embeds very large images.
Embedded images are resized to a maximum of 640px in the longest dimension (ref:?), no matter what your group settings are.?What intrigues me more, is whether in this case they have been stored in the group archive, or simply forwarded. If so, it sounds like to truly keep Subscribers from using up any group space you may also have to set Message Formatting to Plain Text Only.

If the OP can check her Emailed Photos folder to see if the offending images are there, I think this would be a good thing to capture for future reference.?

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Re: Photo question

 

On 8/13/2018 5:09 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Janice,

I have my group setting to not allow attachments of any kind.
Today, a member posted an item for sale and three pictures were in
her posting.? I am assuming they were not attachments but that she
somehow embedded them in her message.? Do youthink that is what
happened?


Yes.
If your group allows formatted (HTML) messages then there is an HTML
element which inserts an image into the body text. Traditionally that
image was conveyed in a file that was either attached to the message
(cid: protocol) or fetched from a web server (http: protocol), but
there's a third way now: the image file can be encoded directly into the
HTML message body (data: protocol).

Strictly speaking one might expect the cid protocol (traditionally the
most common) to be treated like an attached file,
but being used in an HTML message body it is often considered to be part
of the message body rather than "attached" like a traditional file
attachment.

Shal
I assume it's then the case that these images are also not restricted by
the size limits on images which are set as part of the list's policy.
This seems like it could be a problem if someone embeds very large images.

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#membership #suggestion #suggestion #membership

Emre Brookes
 

Just started with groups.io today.? Seems pretty nice.? I'm using it for academic purposes and am just "basic"/"free" right now.

So, when I receive a message from a non-subscriber (I have enabled this in settings), and I click "Approve and unmoderate senders", the sender is not automatically subscribed.?

It would be really nice to be able to do have this ability, as I have multiple software repos that send commit messages
but send messages with a repo specific name instead of having to put a subscribers name on it.
They have email addresses that are not able to receive messages for approval.

Is there any way to add an address that can't receive email and allow them to post messages without moderation?


Re: Photo question

 

Janice,

I have my group setting to not allow attachments of any kind.? Today, a member posted an item for sale and three pictures were in her posting.? I am assuming they were not attachments but that she somehow embedded them in her message.? Do youthink that is what happened?

Yes.
If your group allows formatted (HTML) messages then there is an HTML element which inserts an image into the body text. Traditionally that image was conveyed in a file that was either attached to the message (cid: protocol) or fetched from a web server (http: protocol), but there's a third way now: the image file can be encoded directly into the HTML message body (data: protocol).

Strictly speaking one might expect the cid protocol (traditionally the most common) to be treated like an attached file,
but being used in an HTML message body it is often considered to be part of the message body rather than "attached" like a traditional file attachment.

Shal

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Re: Analytics / Metrics

 

adelynzhou,

Is there a way to see analytics on activity by member?of how many messages they replied to or sent?

It sounds like you mean for mods/owners only. There once was a "Top Posters" list on the group's home page, visible to members, but it got taken down by popular request (beta topic ).

But no, so far as I'm aware no statistical summary of member activity is currently available.

I'm basically trying to find a way to evaluate how active certain members are, to find the lurkers and to encourage the contributors.

Things like this have been mentioned a few times in beta, but so far nothing has come of them.

Stats for web feature usage (beta ).
Stats for message posts (beta ).
Stats for likes (beta ).

The first two are rather old, maybe it is time you could reiterate the request.

Shal


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Photo question

 

I have my group setting to not allow attachments of any kind.? Today, a member posted an item for sale and three pictures were in her posting.? I am assuming they were not attachments but that she somehow embedded them in her message.? Do youthink that is what happened?
Janice B
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Re: Ip address of group members

 
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Toby,

X-Originating-IP: w.x.y.z - the address displayed on my messages?is my public IP address.
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Not all email services reveal that information. For example, Gmail does not reveal the IP address of users who post through their webmail interface (but they do show the connection address in a Received field for those who post from an email app via SMTP).?
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Shal
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Re: Add mygroup+moderators alias?

 

wunder,

Why would anyone guess that mygroup+owner goes to the moderators?

Why would anyone guess that there is such a thing as a moderator as distinct from the list owner?

The non-rhetorical answer is that +owner is the only contact listed in group message footers and on the group home page, so that's what you use.

Also, for those members coming over from Yahoo Groups, that's what the -owner address does there - forwards to all owners and moderators. And yes, I do realize that your same question was sometimes asked over there.

I wish I could think of an effective search term to use for this issue, I have a nagging feeling that this was discussed once long ago in beta.

Shal


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Re: Ip address of group members

 

Interesting question...? It's not explicitly logged that I can see.? But owner/mod can do More -> View Source when viewing the message and the following header should be displayed:

X-Originating-IP: w.x.y.z - the address displayed on my messages?is my public IP address.

Toby


Re: Add mygroup+moderators alias?

 

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Why would anyone guess that mygroup+owner goes to the moderators?

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On Aug 13, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

wunder,

> I read about the setting, but that requires a) that owners know about
> it (I didn¡¯t) and b) that they set it (no idea if I have).

That's something each mod and owner should check, to be sure that they receive what they expect to receive. That would be true regardless of which alias the member sent to.

> Also, it doesn¡¯t address my second scenario:¡±¡­ as a group member, I¡¯d
> probably still try and send email to moderator if there was a
> moderation-related question.¡±

I think I misread your post in beta. I thought you were suggesting a +moderator alias because you believed that the +owner address did not include moderators. You could reply in beta to clarify that you know +owner includes both, but that you'd like +moderator to be a synonym for it. If that's what you're actually suggesting.

> An email alias in the public help seems a lot easier for group members
> than a checkbox buried in the admin options.

I don't understand this comment. It isn't an either-or situation. Creating a +member synonym for +owner wouldn't change the need for mods/owners to set their subscription appropriately.

Each group's +owner address is listed on the group's home page, if that was a concern. Perhaps the suggestion to make is that it be described there as including moderators.

Shal


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Transfer Timeline

 

Hi All! Newbie here. We are requesting to have our (small) group transferred over from Yahoo and are wondering how long that usually takes? We initiated the transfer over the weekend and realize now that may have been outside "business hours". Now that we're back to weekdays; what is the standard time to transfer in your experiences??

Thanks!
Rebecca


Re: Add mygroup+moderators alias?

 

wunder,

I read about the setting, but that requires a) that owners know about
it (I didn¡¯t) and b) that they set it (no idea if I have).
That's something each mod and owner should check, to be sure that they receive what they expect to receive. That would be true regardless of which alias the member sent to.

Also, it doesn¡¯t address my second scenario:¡±¡­ as a group member, I¡¯d
probably still try and send email to moderator if there was a
moderation-related question.¡±
I think I misread your post in beta. I thought you were suggesting a +moderator alias because you believed that the +owner address did not include moderators. You could reply in beta to clarify that you know +owner includes both, but that you'd like +moderator to be a synonym for it. If that's what you're actually suggesting.

An email alias in the public help seems a lot easier for group members
than a checkbox buried in the admin options.
I don't understand this comment. It isn't an either-or situation. Creating a +member synonym for +owner wouldn't change the need for mods/owners to set their subscription appropriately.

Each group's +owner address is listed on the group's home page, if that was a concern. Perhaps the suggestion to make is that it be described there as including moderators.

Shal


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Ip address of group members

SIRMick
 

Is there anywhere that the ip addresses of individual members are logged?

Thanks


Re: Add mygroup+moderators alias?

 

I read about the setting, but that requires a) that owners know about it (I didn¡¯t) and b) that they set it (no idea if I have).
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Also, it doesn¡¯t address my second scenario:¡±¡­ as a group member, I¡¯d probably still try and send email to moderator if there was a moderation-related question.¡±
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An email alias in the public help seems a lot easier for group members than a checkbox buried in the admin options.
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I¡¯m sure I learned this convention from some software, but I can¡¯t figure out what it was. I¡¯ve used or operated so many mail and conferencing systems over the decades.
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wunder
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Re: Another Member Left Group & No Notification to Owner - 2nd Time

 

Paul,

This still doesn't explain why their "Left" doesn't show in the
Activity History or why Groups.io isn't sending the alert.
I suggest sending this to [email protected]

I've read of a few holes in the activity logging, but those I believe had to do with members who closed their Groups.io account or who merged it with another account.

Whatever the cause though, I think not having their exit from the group logged in some fashion should be regarded as a "bug" and hopefully fixed.

Shal


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Re: Add mygroup+moderators alias?

 

wunder,

In the beta group you suggested:
One of the first things I tried to do when setting up my first
groups.io group was to send mail to the moderators. Since
mygroup+owner worked, ...


That address forwards to all moderators and owners.

Subject to each mod/owner's Owner Email setting on his/her Subscription page. Each may choose to receive all messages sent to that address, only those sent by members of the group, or none of them.

You as owner can view or change a member's or moderator's subscription settings by clicking on their row in the Members list. Moderators need the "Set Member Subscription Options" or "Set Moderator Privileges" permission to do that.

Shal


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Analytics / Metrics

 

Hi all!
Is there a way to see analytics on activity by member?of how many messages they replied to or sent? In the member activity section, it shows various actions, but doesn't show 1) how many messages this person sent, 2) how many replies, etc. I've been looking through the past posts and online but didn't see anything about it.?
I'm basically trying to find a way to evaluate how active certain members are, to find the lurkers and to encourage the contributors.
Thanks!