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Confirmation Emails Not Received
w6fm
I am considering migrating my Yahoo groups to groups.io. Prior to doing that I need to change my io.com account's email. I have tried two different email accounts on two different servers but never receive the confirmation email. I have checked the spam folders on both accounts. Is there a current issue with the confirmation email system?
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Re: How to move Active (but apparently abandoned by unresponsive group owner) Yahoo Groups???
Unfortunately, it was set up as a private, restricted group, on egroups.com, before Yahoo took over.? I have sent another email to the owner of the group as well as to the TVR Car Club's HQ.? Using PG Offline might be my only option at this point.
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Re: Sidebar - Gmail dotted email addresses
Jeremy, I would suggest that this is all down to the question: 'When is an e-mail address not an e-mail address?' Answer: 'When it's an id.' Correct. And any third-party using an email address as an ID must not presume anything about the semantics of the user portion. The only safe assumption is that each unique spelling is a unique individual. Dots are not the only issue, you even must assume that capitalization might matter: John@... may not be the same individual as john@.... Moral 2: if somebody's signing up to your service with an e-mail as id, do your best to ensure it is theirs...? Correct again. This is why Groups.io requires that a user confirm their email address (prove that they received a notice sent to that address) before the address can be used to participate. If your group's Members list has any email addresses bearing the NC badge, this is what the owner of that address has not done - Not Confirmed. And this discrepancy - that if your e-mail address is ab@~ , and somebody can use a.b@~ as 'their' id (but which is your email), then it is a security loophole: see (and other responses to googling 'google email netflix security fail' )? I think Moral 1 is simpler, and applies no matter what email service you use: never confirm an account when you didn't, just a moment ago, originate the confirmation request. So I think in Ellen's case the problem may actually be fraud... (and one that, from what she said, Apple are aware of) Only if she had confirmed an account using the non-dotted address. Otherwise it might just have been a typo that misdirected the other person's message to her. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Sidebar - Gmail dotted email addresses
I would suggest that this is all down to the question: 'When is an e-mail address not an e-mail address?' Answer: 'When it's an id.'
AIUI Google is following the standards - any e-mail sent to an ~@gmail address goes to them, they are sending it to the correct mail box (that they have provided) for that e-mail address - and they are, as is their right under the standard, ignoring any dots in the 'pre-@' part the address (which is purely their business). So ab@gmail.~ and a.b@gmail.~ are both valid addresses for the same destination - and if an e-mail is sent to both, the destination mail box will (or at least should) get two e-mails. But anything using an e-mail address as an id isn't bound by, or using, e-mail standards - typically I think they just check it has an @ in the middle, without worrying about anybodyelse's rules that may (or may not) comply with the standard. And this discrepancy - that if your e-mail address is ab@~ , and somebody can use a.b@~ as 'their' id (but which is your email), then it is a security loophole: see (and other responses to googling 'google email netflix security fail' )? So I think in Ellen's case the problem may actually be fraud... (and one that, from what she said, Apple are aware of) Moral: if you have a gmail address, be aware, and be suspicious of any (money related in particular) e-mails that unexpectedly arrive, addressed to a wrongly dotted version of it. (But note that, as it is 'your' address, you can always go and get the password reset) Moral 2: if somebody's signing up to your service with an e-mail as id, do your best to ensure it is theirs... Jeremy? ? |
Re: True permalink for photos?
#suggestion
Okay, thanks both. Tagged as a suggestion, but if not dealt with from the historical thread, I guess not a priority. It does make the usefulness of a photo url questionable to anything other than the groups.io album functionality. Oh well, {sigh} ;-)
-- Regards, Andrew Dumbleton |
Re: How to move Active (but apparently abandoned by unresponsive group owner) Yahoo Groups???
I suspect, as Shal says, you aren't going to be able to "port over" using the easy-transfer method.? Reality sucks sometimes.? What you can do (IF you can look at the member list of the inactive yahoo list) is download the membership roster in .csv format, then "invite" all of them individually to join a mirror list on groups.io.? You won't be able to move the message history over but you can download the photos and files to your own computer and then upload them to the new list.? Lot of trouble, but it will depend on how significant the photos/files are as to whether it's worth the time and trouble.??
I've been trying to warn some of my friends about the vagaries of yahoogroups recently, and most of them are either ignoring me or pooh-poohing me.? At some point, they too will find that their lists aren't functional (as I did) or useful because of unresponsiveness in the tech support area, so I guess some folks just have to learn the hard way. Bill? |
Re: Time Stamps on Posts
All of our posts have date stamps visible by default.? Hovering over that date shows the time-date stamp. - Best Regards, Gary D Vaught |
Re: Sent invitations
#membership
#addmembers
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:51 AM, Gary Vaught wrote:
If someone does join (twice) with two separate emails addresses there may be a way to merge two accounts into one, but I have not needed to do that with my group so have not looked for that. Will that prevent them from joiningProbably not, though you should be able to block an email address or at least set it so that it cannot post. OK ¡ª HTH Paul Mitchell == |
Re: Turn off "New Member" emails to moderators
#membership
#announcement
Disregard. The solution my moderator was looking for was in the notification.
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Re: Turn off "New Member" emails to moderators
#membership
#announcement
I see how you can do it one moderator at a time, but not a group wide setting. In Subscription, there is a group of checkboxes. See attached photo. Be sure to save.?
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Turn off "New Member" emails to moderators
#membership
#announcement
I've got a group, which has multiple subgroups, and our board moderators are over all of the groups.? There are a LOT of "new member" notifications coming in to all of our moderators.? Is there a way to turn those notifications to the moderators off?
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Re: Bouncing again!
Chuq Von Rospach
well, when I was doing email for a living, Roadrunner was always one of the domains that created unnecessary drama in trying to get email to subscribers, and their admins were always attitudinal that it was never their fault. Nice to see nothing's changed.? On July 30, 2018 at 10:34:02 AM, Bob Bellizzi (cdfexec@...) wrote:
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Re: Sidebar - Gmail dotted email addresses
Ellen
Yep ... I get anyone's mail who tries to use the miz.elly addy without a dot. I was told it was because I had the addy first (with the dot) Yahoo knows about this now and they don't seem to be inclined to change anything about the dot issue.
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From: Shal Farley Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 11:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Sidebar - Gmail dotted email addresses Ken, Well I don't want to start trading insults, but I am somewhat dismayedI've cited the relevant standard. If you think there is some standard being subverted, please cite it. there has most certainly been a problem with the use or not of a dotIn Merle's case the dot was a factor. The two different spellings of Merle's Gmail address (with and without dot) were entered into Groups.io which created two separate accounts for them. Merle was ultimately able to resolve the issue by logging in using the alternate spelling and making corrections. In Ellen's case the problem was a typo. The dot was not a factor because the same result would have occurred with or without it. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Bouncing again!
Messages are bounced by the receiving server, that? means the server where the destination email account resides.
I find that the Road Runner (.....rr.com) seems to bounce emails more often than many others.? They also use excuses like "too many emails during this period" and other excuses for lack of service to throttle incoming traffic. This is not a new thing; it has bee going on for years -- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends?? |
Re: Bouncing again!
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDisregard this.? After further investigating only a few emails are bouncing and I think they are maybe not valid emails. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sandra Pickens-Gmail ? ?All my members that are @triad.rr.com are bouncing again! |
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? From: Duane
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Transfer from Yahoo ?
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Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 06:50 AM, Don Dawson wrote: How / where do I do the $10 upgrade?Under the drop down list under Admin, select Upgrade.? The page that opens will have a summary of your storage usage.? Click the "View/Change Plan" button on the right.? The "Transfer Plan" is the 3rd one down the list of options.? Select "Upgrade" on the right of that and set it up. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: How to move Active (but apparently abandoned by unresponsive group owner) Yahoo Groups???
George,
Is there a way to port those groups over to groups.io even though I amTo use the easy group transfer mechanism you must be at least a moderator of the group with these two privileges: Invite and add members Add, remove, and change moderator privileges Some of these groups have been active for close to 20 years and IYou can use PG Offline to make a personal copy to your computer. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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