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Re: Not getting calendar reminders
Shawn,
It is showing up in the calendar at the correct time, there is simplyI'm out of ideas. Note that I am having the exact same problem in 2 different groups.If you want to try for three you can set one up identically in my test group, maybe that way we can spot what's different. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: graphics files
Claire,
Can I add .tif and .png files? Is there someplace that has guidelinesI'm not aware of any restrictions on the types of files that can be uploaded to the group's Photos or Files sections. In Photos .png files definitely work, but .tif is a very flexible format so while the file will likely upload, it may not be viewable without downloading. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: bounced emails
Sandra,
?It is technically true that they are not blocking , they're delaying messages instead (greylisting, as mentioned to Jim).? Perhaps more pertinently, while the Sender (envelope-from) is Groups.io, the From address (header-from) of those messages are (for the most part) that of the posting member. That may be a factor, it has been known to cause some Microsoft-based services to outright reject messages from Groups.io (especially when the message is being returned to the member who posted it).
?You have to do what's in the best interests of your group, of course. I would recommend giving the situation a few more days to see if Mark can resolve it. I'd probably also be telling the affected members that perhaps they would enjoy using a more reliable email service. I know that may sound snarky or glib, but it is based in personal experience. Years ago I had this same problem (greylisting) with Verizon as my email service delaying messages from Yahoo Groups. Sometimes the delay would be long enough that Y!Groups would count the message as bounced and I'd never get it. As a mod for several groups I found this intolerable and switched email services. Ultimately I fired Verizon as my ISP as well, giving my business to a competitor with faster speeds, lower prices, and (at that time) no shenanigans with my inbound email. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: bounced emails
Jim, They told me Groups.io needed to call them and request removal of the block/delay and I sent the number to do that to Mark via the "Support" email address. ?Good, I hope that helps. ? That business of delaying and creating a big backlog that's finally accepted doesn't make much sense to me, but that's what RR/Spectrum are doing. ?It is a (dubious in my opinion) anti-spam technique called greylisting. The theory is that spambots won't retry.? It may be fine when you're service is receiving scattershot spam from all over the place. But if you can identify a bulk sender, such as a mailing list service, it makes no sense to me to increase the workload on your servers and theirs, and decrease the satisfaction of your mutual customers, by continuing to defer their messages. Either block the service outright or pass it. I think it's a case of Google and Yahoogroups are "too big to block" and Groups.io isn't... yet. ?Indeed. I suppose Groups.io does not yet represent enough traffic into their service to be concerned about the extra load. And if it means a few hundred users decide to switch to one of their competitors, eh, no big deal. ? ?Shal? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: How to send a Member Notice . . .
Paul, (And I could not figure out a way to use the Calendar for doing this, but I'll snoop around that some more.) ?I wrote: The only way to schedule a message, other than the Group Guidelines, is to use a calendar event. See: Shal? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Couple Of Questions, Email And Something Else
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJeff,I don't want to turn of notifications of new member nor when another first post needs approval.? If I disable the daily notifications will it stop those notices ? No. The Email Delivery choices only refer to normal group postings. Scroll down to the bottom of your Subscription page to see the checkboxes for Notifications and the options for Owner Email. My other question is, from what I've seen, groups.io is not in any way limited to electronics. some would like to discuss some politics, food or whatever else. Correct. As a group owner you decide what content is suitable for your group. Some of my groups are very tightly focused (my PTA group), others we talk about nearly anything (my classmate group).? So it isn't surprising that in Groups.io's directory you'll find groups on all sorts of topics: /search I mean except maybe how to overthrow the government or something like that, which I would never do. (we keep quiet about such things lol) I wouldn't do anything even slightly illegal here. Best not: Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Dividing Access with a Group
#howto
#subgroups
#split
Andrew,
?I think the only way to have them unable to use the Messages page to read messages is to not subscribe them to the group. Then you can check
Allow Non Subscribers to Post
in the Message Policies section of your group's Settings page. This will force moderation on all of their postings, a necessary precaution to keep out spam from non-subscribers. Then you would also want to select Sender or Group and Sender in the Reply To control so that member replies go back to them. Unfortunately that will also affect members' replies to each other. I don't see a way around that. The other option, if it would be acceptable for these "type 2" subscribers to see each other's messages, would be to include them in the primary group, but not in a subgroup devoted to the type 1 subscribers. The type 1 subscribers could converse privately in the subgroup, and the type 1 subscribers could answer type 2 posts in the primary group. That would be a little like the "member" versus "board" structure I have in my PTA group, where all PTA members are members of the primary group, but only the elected board members are members of the "board" subgroup. ?Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Couple Of Questions, Email And Something Else
I own a group. Now instead of constant emails I get a daily summary. Well I come here every day and check the groups I am in. I don't really need the email every day so I am thinking of turning it off. I don't want to turn of notifications of new member nor when another first post needs approval.? If I disable the daily notifications will it stop those notices ? They are really not a big problem, I just like to keep my inbox clean. So if I disable the daily mail, do I disable the notifications I should get as the owner ?
My other question is, from what I've seen, groups.io is not in any way limited to electronics. some would like to discuss some politics, food or whatever else. Anything aboout politics would of course have strict rules and have to be tightly moderated, but am I right in assuming that any topic is OK ? I mean except maybe how to overthrow the government or something like that, which I would never do. (we keep quiet about such things lol) I wouldn't do anything even slightly illegal here. So, those are my questions de jure. Thanks for your time. |
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Re: Not getting calendar reminders
I checked #cal-reminder. Nothing for this week. ¡°No Email¡± is not checked. ? It is showing up in the calendar at the correct time, there is simply no reminder in email or in the messages list. ? Note that I am having the exact same problem in 2 different groups. ? From: Shal Farley
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:45 PM To: GMF Subject: Re: [GMF] Not getting calendar reminders ? Shawn, ?
? ?I think it is unlikely, with Gmail, but did you check to see if they were rejected? ?
? ?If you're saying that they post to the group and arrive by email sometimes, but sometimes do neither that's different than what I was thinking. I thought you were saying that they never appeared in the group's Messages list, but did sometimes arrive by email. ?
? ?Ok, then the crucial question is whether the event is in fact repeating every two weeks. If so it should appear on the calendar this week as well as two weeks ago, and two weeks from now, etc. As it happens I have one set up like that in my test group: ? ? ?If yours is set up similarly, and does appear in the calendar every two weeks, then I don't see why its reminders shouldn't post every two weeks. ? ? A long shot would be to check the #cal-reminder entry in your group's Hashtag list, and make sure it does not have the No Email box checked. But even if that were checked, the reminder should be posted in the group's Messages page. ?Too, that should have prevented the two-weeks ago reminders from emailing also, unless the hashtag was changed sometime in between. ? Shal
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Re: Dividing Access with a Group
#howto
#subgroups
#split
Andrew Utt
Shal, Thanks for that insight on the Following Only. Our company has subscribers and then we have people who are interested in subscribing. For the people who are interested in subscribing, I don't want them to see all the subscriber messages, but if they do post, I'd like for subscribers to be able to respond. So, in the end, I want them to participate, just not have access to all of the subscriber conversations. Andrew On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
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Re: Dividing Access with a Group
#howto
#subgroups
#split
Andrew, 2. People who can't receive all messages, but can message and receive feedback from the entire group. ?I don't know what you mean by "can't", but it sounds like these people would benefit from Following Only? in the Advanced Preferences section of their Subscription page. Does anyone have some suggestions on how to organize my group this way? You don't need to do anything special in your group settings to have some people use Following Only. But if you know that you are about to Direct Add or Invite a bunch of people who should have that setting, you can preset it for them on the Default Sub Settings tab of ?your group's Settings page. You may or may not want to leave that default in place normally. ?You can ?change existing members to use that setting, but only one at a time through their Membership page in the group's Members list. Or you can just tell them about the feature and let them adjust their own subscriptions, but they will have to log in to the site to set the Advanced Preferences. ? ?Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Not getting calendar reminders
Shawn,
?I think it is unlikely, with Gmail, but did you check to see if they were rejected? ?
?If you're saying that they post to the group and arrive by email sometimes, but sometimes do neither that's different than what I was thinking. I thought you were saying that they never appeared in the group's Messages list, but did sometimes arrive by email. ?
?Ok, then the crucial question is whether the event is in fact repeating every two weeks. If so it should appear on the calendar this week as well as two weeks ago, and two weeks from now, etc. As it happens I have one set up like that in my test group: ? ?If yours is set up similarly, and does appear in the calendar every two weeks, then I don't see why its reminders shouldn't post every two weeks. A long shot would be to check the #cal-reminder entry in your group's Hashtag list, and make sure it does not have the No Email box checked. But even if that were checked, the reminder should be posted in the group's Messages page. ?Too, that should have prevented the two-weeks ago reminders from emailing also, unless the hashtag was changed sometime in between. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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