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Re: Calendar bugs

 

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 03:34 am, Victoria wrote:
although in time display sub settings I chose "military time" which I suppose is the 24 hour version, I still see am and pm in calendar and messages.Maybe I missed a setting...
Keep in mind that some of the text in messages (such as the date/time in the quote reference above) is just that...text. Whatever was inserted by groups.io (or someone's email client) at the time it was created will remain unaffected by your account preferences.

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Re: Calendar bugs

 

I also use 24-hour time.? There are some inconsistencies, such as when quoting a message.? I've thought about mentioning that on beta, but I think it could cause some head scratching when it switched back and forth within the group messages.? The same could apply to the calendar, but I haven't had a chance to test it yet.? I don't know how difficult it would be to have all time displays based on a persons setting, such as within posts or events, but probably not easy.

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Re: Calendar bugs

Gerald Boutin
 

In Account/Preferences make sure you also click on the Save Preferences button. This affects all groups when logged in under that account and viewing online.

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Re: Calendar bugs

 

although in time display sub settings I chose "military time" which I suppose is the 24 hour version, I still see am and pm in calendar and messages.Maybe I missed a setting...
Victoria


Re: A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

Thanks again, Shal, for your suggestions.? As to the YMMV, sometimes the obvious passes us by.?? I used to handle medical cases as a lawyer and one physician once told me, "When you hear hoofbeats, don't go looking for Zebras."

As to the suggestion below, the PG Offline html generator already does that by replacing everything following the "@" with "..." effectively masking the email.?? I did the first year of messages and got about 329 messages taking up about 1 mb.? The top of the page contains a message index with internal links to the actual message.?? If I put them all on one page, they could be searched by using the "find on page" function.? It would be nice to sort them by thread though, but then again threads can get hijacked with a new topic that would be out of place.

Dale

On 6/23/2018 3:16 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
You might want to redact or "fig-leaf" any email addresses in message bodies, to mimic the behavior of Yahoo Groups.


Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


NEW: User preferences for date and time display formatting.
Yay! Finally ISO dates (YYYY-MM-DD) are supported, and a 24-hour clock, for those so inclined. The choices are in your Account preferences, coming soon to your group's Default Sub Settings (in the same way as Time Zone, I assume).

Mark is still looking for reports of quirks and bugs related to this change, so if you feel like exploring turn on those options and poke around. Looks like Michael and Duane nailed one today:



Comments about these others are also welcome:

NEW: Lock icons are now displayed for locked groups in the Your Groups
list, the My Groups page and the Subgroups page.
NEW: Support '´ð¸´:' as an indicator in the subject of a message
reply.
NEW: 'Ban Sender' button when viewing a pending message sent from a
non-member.
INTERNAL: Changed many operations that relied on Amazon S3 to make
them more reliable in the face of intermittent issues with S3
lately.
INTERNAL: Wrote a new utility to maintain the nginx domain config
files.
NEW: Work on preventing spam signups.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: Calendar bugs

 

Yes, Mark saw the notes we put on beta and fixed it about 1600 CDT.

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Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

Chris,

Seems silly to set up an indexed page containing nothing more than a
link to the GMF wiki!
True. You could surround the link with some group-specific introductory matter or anything else you want to say on the subject. Or, like GMF, you could abandon the index page in favor of a hand-crafted home page.

Shal


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Re: A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

Dale,

I am not sure Mark would be interested in getting our messages loaded,
considering his other concerns at this time.
You never know. If he's still working through a backlog of Y!Groups he might put you in the queue or just wait until things settle down.

What I was hoping for is a way to simply post my album with its
contents intact without having to create the album on groups.io and
then load it. With 260 albums, this is a bit of work.
Ah. Something that could be done if Mark built an importer that could take a (zip of a) PG Offline folder, starting at the .db3 files and including all the subfolders. Unfortunately I think he has said that he is not going to do that (anytime soon).

If it were documented you might be able to put your album folders and metadata (owner, dates, etc.) in the format Mark uses to capture Y!Group data, then it wouldn't be much work on his end to import it. I know he puts the metadata into json files, one per photo and one per album, so maybe some scripting could do the job, if one can figure out how to get the metadata out of PG Offline's database.

I checked the Yahoo site and it is a public group, so I don't think
this would be an issue.
Cool. Then at least putting them on a public web page wouldn't be violating anyone's privacy. You might want to redact or "fig-leaf" any email addresses in message bodies, to mimic the behavior of Yahoo Groups.

I am not familiar with the acronym YMMV. I assume that the Y is Yahoo
and the V is violation, but what is in between?
Nothing so scary: Your Mileage May Vary - just meaning that the general statement might apply differently or not at all to different circumstances.

Shal


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Re: Calendar bugs

 

Hi, I'm a newbie on Groups.io and on this forum.? I had the same issue with the calendar yesterday.? Start time drop-down menu worked fine, but end time in some strange military time format that wouldn't work.? I found that I was able to manually type in the time (ex. 4:30pm) and it worked fine.

I just checked the calendar function and it seems to be corrected as of right now.

Thanks,
Maureen


Re: How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups? #s

 

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:20 am, Ken Schweizer wrote:
Is there a way to make "MESSAGES" the default?
Each view has a different URL, so one work-around is to bookmark the Messages view in your browser. That's what I do for GMF.
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Re: Calendar bugs

 

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 01:28 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:
Maybe the code got switched up somewhere to have cross malfunctions
Yes, I suspect the End code got switched, though not the default display.? I went ahead and added this info to the thread on beta.? Mark is supposed to take weekends off, but he sometimes notices things like this and fixes them, especially after a big code change.

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Re: Calendar bugs

 

It got the reverse malfunction:
I have 12 hour time selected, which the Start drop down uses, but the End drop down has 24 hours

Maybe the code got switched up somewhere to have cross malfunctions

On Jun 23, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

This could be related to the recent change in the date/time formatting, . You could post this information to that thread so Mark will see it. I was able to reproduce it. I believe the problem is because even though I have 24 hour time selected, the End drop down shows am/pm times, one of those little bugs that can creep in after a big change like this.


Re: Calendar bugs

 

This could be related to the recent change in the date/time formatting, .? You could post this information to that thread so Mark will see it.? I was able to reproduce it.? I believe the problem is because even though I have 24 hour time selected, the End drop down shows am/pm times, one of those little bugs that can creep in after a big change like this.

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Re: How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups? #s

 

The system remembers which view you normally use.? The only gotcha is that if you choose a group from the overview page, /, it reverts to the Topic view because it's hard-coded on those links.? The suggestion has been made that this be changed to use the user preference, but I don't think a decision was ever made.

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Re: Send "automatic" files to pending/new members

 

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:34 am, Michael Pavan wrote:
Shouldn't only the current one remain?
Not unless the hashtag is set to delete them after a month.? On this group, that one is not.

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Calendar bugs

 

I've tried many times to create an Event in the Calendar, but keep getting the message:
"You have entered an incorrectly formatted date or time.¡±
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The event is 4th Sundays, 2-5pm
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1) I think the problem is with the time function in ¡°End¡±
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¡°Start¡± allows me to select: 2:00pm?
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however the ¡°End¡± time box then displays ¡°Invalid Date¡±, its pull down menu offers:
00:00 to 23:30 in 1/2 hour increments.
I¡¯ve tried both 3:00 (duration) and 17:00 (24 hour clock)
and still get the same message when I click on "+ Add Event":
"You have entered an incorrectly formatted date or time.¡±

I would also prefer being able to specify times, rather than having to select 1/2 hours.


2) It is most annoying and frustrating that the form is then cleared and I have to re-enter every field again, instead of just indicating which fields need correction / completion
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I find nothing in Help for: Calendar
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I also searched in the GMF Wiki for: Calendar and the only result that comes close is
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices?
but it doesn't cover these bugs


Re: Send "automatic" files to pending/new members

 

|?For monthly reminders, I use a hashtag that causes the message to be deleted after a month.? Reduces the clutter and folks won't find old information, thinking it's current.

My GMF: Home in Top Hashtags states (among others):
red boxed "#admin" Administrative messages from the moderators (21)
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On my GMF: Messages there are 21 "Group Managers Forum subscription reminder" messages?
followed by a red boxed "#admin" and a blue boxed "#cal-reminder"
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They are:
Group Managers Forum subscription reminder
from Monday, 1 August 2016 to Wed, 11/1/17
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None for Dec 2017 or Jan 2018
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Group Managers Forum subscription reminder #admin -
from Thu, 3/3/18 to Fri, 6/1/18
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Shouldn't only the current one remain?


Re: A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

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First of all, thanks for your thoughts on all the issues I raised.? I am not sure Mark would be interested in getting our messages loaded, considering his other concerns at this time.? His easy transfer option was actually a nice way to reach out to those who wanted to transfer the groups.?? One of my groups was transferred that way and things are working great.? I have a feeling this group will probably work fine prospectively, but the history from the old group will have to be managed as best we can.

On two of the issues, see below.

Thanks, Dale


On 6/23/2018 1:42 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

> Also, the question of posting photos by the album rather than by the
> photo would go a great way to making things work.

Sorry, I don't follow that.
I was probably a little bit too terse in explaining my issue.?? With PG Offline, I have a directory consisting of folders (albums) of photos.? The members were very good about putting their photos in albums, rather than just posting a photo.? Groups.io requires me to create and title an album and then take the photos out of each existing album and place them in the new album.? Actually a very good interface to keep member photos organized, but it takes a bit of effort.?? What I was hoping for is a way to simply post my album with its contents intact without having to create the album on groups.io and then load it.? With 260 albums, this is a bit of work.
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> As I run several related websites, I know I could put the old messages
> and attachments up in html form on a web page.?? I just need to figure
> out some sorting techniques that would make them easier to use.

If the original group's messages were not open to the public you may want to be concerned about posting their content on a publicly visible web site. There's a very strong YMMV there, based on the nature of your group and its members.
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That is a consideration, but I doubt it would matter.? The group deals with vintage HO trains and the historical information I spoke of is of manufacturers, most of whom are no longer in business, and their product lines.?? Not really confidential information but lost except to those who remember and were involved in this years ago.?? Most business records ended up in the dumpster but collectors appreciate this information and its relevance to their collections.?

I checked the Yahoo site and it is a public group, so I don't think this would be an issue.?? I am not familiar with the acronym YMMV.? I assume that the Y is Yahoo and the V is violation, but what is in between?



Re: How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups? #s

 

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Is there a way to make "MESSAGES" the default? It would be nice not to have to make that change every time you sing on.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 11:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMF] How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups?

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On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 07:14 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:

How can I turn on Message #s in Messages in my groups?

Pull down the blue Topics menu and select the Messages view instead.

Hope this helps,
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