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did yahoo finally bite the dust this morning?
Yahoo groups has been completely down for the past hour or so, with this message, one I've never seen before. I was just about to move my group over. Wondering if I waited a day too long and it's finally bitten the dust. In any case, I feel moving is now urgent, if it's even still possible:
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Re: Probationary membership (was: [beta] "P" next to member name)
Your ooops are ok in my book Shal.. no problem :)? You are everyone's right arm.. and I thank god for it.
>>>>No matter, it has the same effect: if Unmoderate after is not enabled the new member remains moderated until you manually change their posting privilege.
OK, sounds good.. Thank you Shal
I am off to bed.. I have an early start tomorrow..
?Buenas Noches!?Good night..
Vickie
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From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Probationary membership (was: [beta] "P" next to member name)
Vickie,
I said:
> That way (assuming again you have "New Users Moderated" checked) the
> joining member will be assigned the "Override: moderated" ('M') posting
> privilege, which will stay in effect until you manually change it.
Oops, I made a mistake. Testing shows that having New Users Moderated checked results in the joining member being assigned the "Override: new user moderated" ('NuM') posting privilege, regardless of whether "Unmoderate After" is enabled or not.
No matter, it has the same effect: if Unmoderate after is not enabled the new member remains moderated until you manually change their posting privilege.
-- Shal
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Re: Probationary membership (was: [beta] "P" next to member name)
Vickie, I said: That way (assuming again you have "New Users Moderated" checked) the
joining member will be assigned the "Override: moderated" ('M') posting
privilege, which will stay in effect until you manually change it. Oops, I made a mistake. Testing shows that having New Users Moderated checked results in the joining member being assigned the "Override: new user moderated" ('NuM') posting privilege, regardless of whether "Unmoderate After" is enabled or not. No matter, it has the same effect: if Unmoderate after is not enabled the new member remains moderated until you manually change their posting privilege. -- Shal
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Re: Probationary membership (was: [beta] "P" next to member name)
> Ok so this is the same as yahoo.
Shal >>Correct.
Shal >>I'm lost. Oh, maybe that's because you're talking about two different groups. Originally I was ?talking about one particular group my localized community group while the other ?chat group is open to national and international members. Both restricted groups.
?I've inferred that the group in question has restricted membership, and that the archives are private.? In that case, if you haven't approved these people as members they shouldn't be able to read messages or see emails. Ok . That's great.
> 2- Once they submit the first post to the forum I can better judge the
> members post to unmoderate the newbie member or not.
If you want to apply your own judgement to the merits of the newbie's posts then you should probably leave the "Unmoderate After" control set to Not Enabled.?
Ok, ?thank you for that insight
?That way (assuming again you have "New Users Moderated" checked) the joining member will be assigned the "Override: moderated" ('M') posting privilege, which will stay in effect until you manually change it. Ok, I can do this.. excellent, Thank you Shal
Are these two groups on basically the same topic? ?No, ? ?refer to my answer above.?
If so, and if the giving group members are all also members of the chat group? Nope, ?2 separate groups ? ?one is a localized community group ? ?and chatting is not permitted .
Boy, I ?sure am glad you are here when I need questions answered. It alleviates my stage freight some ?when you are here .. lol..
Thank you Shal.
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Probationary membership (was: [beta] "P" next to member name)
In beta@ Vickie wrote: /g/beta/message/4852The status badges I'm talking about refer only to posting privileges,
not to what they can access. Ok so this is the same as yahoo.
Correct. No I wouldn't until they reply to the group questionnaire
However they can still view the forum and read messages and members
emails are view-able. I'm lost. Oh, maybe that's because you're talking about two different groups. I've inferred that the group in question has restricted membership, and that the archives are private. In that case, if you haven't approved these people as members they shouldn't be able to read messages or see emails. 1- First they must reply to the questionnaire upon joining. Once they
reply I would then approve their membership. Right, that's what I've understood: group membership is restricted. 2- Once they submit the first post to the forum I can better judge the
members post to unmoderate the newbie member or not. If you want to apply your own judgement to the merits of the newbie's posts then you should probably leave the "Unmoderate After" control set to Not Enabled. That way (assuming again you have "New Users Moderated" checked) the joining member will be assigned the "Override: moderated" ('M') posting privilege, which will stay in effect until you manually change it. Shal, I have a few groups. I have one chat group and in my chat group
the members are free to view the forum. ...
However my giving group well, that is another matter..
Subgroups sounds like extra work.. I prefer to keep all members list in
one area.. Are these two groups on basically the same topic? If so, and if the giving group members are all also members of the chat group (or if that could be made a requirement) then perhaps the giving group could be a subgroup of the chat group. Then you haven't added a new members list, just changed the way they're organized. I am sorry I have taken up so much of everyone's time with my request. ;-) -- Shal /g/GroupManagersForum
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Hi Jim, Do you insert the "[excess quote trimmed by moderator]" manually? I do. I noticed that you use the Preformatted markup tag. I really like your
method. In Yahoo Groups I had taken to using Lucida Console, a fixed-pitch font, to make my notes distinct from the member's text, without being too garish. In groups.io there isn't a font choice, so the nearest equivalent was selecting Preformatted. I think it looks ok. -- Shal
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Mark, Is it possible to make it so that only moderators can populate the names
of the available hashtags, ... I see elsewhere that you've found that control. One of my concerns is that if users can make up their own hashtags there
will be literally hundreds of misspelled, unintelligible, or just plain
useless hashtags cluttering up an otherwise very valuable tool; In addition to the Alias feature, you can also help members choose the right hashtag by providing text in the Description field for each hashtag. -- Shal
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:35 am, D R Stinson wrote: It would be nice to have the links, but if we can bring over the message archives through the transfer process, that would be the most critical. One think I hadn't thought of previously is the space available for messages. One group goes back to the days of onelist back in 1998. I'd hate to lose some of the archives because we exceeded storage space immediately. I can't find the space the message archives currently take up om Yahoo, but we've just passed 8500 messages.? ?Hi Dano, Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I just joined. Mark recently loaded archives from my two biggest lists that I started on onelist back in 1998. ?One had 45,000 messages and the other 25,000. ?Everything transferred great, no storage issues. I created mbox files using the Chrome extension and sent them to Mark. ?He took care of everything else. So I don't think you need to worry about archive space. -- Jim
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Hi Shal,
Do you insert the "[excess quote trimmed by moderator]" manually? I
noticed that you use the Preformatted markup tag. I really like your
method.
I also clean up messages before approving/publishing. Those who trim
their quotes get unmoderated. Everyone else goes to the moderation
queue.
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Jim
Poston@...
<< 'Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?' >>
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On 5 Jan 2016 at 6:04, Mark Bielecki via Groups.io wrote: Is it possible to make it so that only moderators can populate the
names of the available hashtags Yes. Settings > "Only Moderators Can Create Hashtags " -- Jim Poston@... << Every person you meet knows something you don't. Learn. >>
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I have a question about hashtags that was not addressed in the groups.io FAQ. Is it possible to make it so that only moderators can populate the names of the available hashtags, i.e. users/members can only use a hashtag that has already been made available by the moderators or they have to ask a moderator to make a new hashtag? I would like to limit the number of hashtags to a manageable and easily identifiable group of available hashtags. ?One of my concerns is that if users can make up their own hashtags there will be literally hundreds of misspelled, unintelligible, or just plain useless hashtags cluttering up an otherwise very valuable tool; ?at some point having an overabundance of hashtags will make hashtags more of an annoyance than the useful tool that it promises to be. Mark Bielecki
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Also, posts are automatically transferred during the "easy transfer" procedure.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: I may be totally wrong, but the way I read the terms here, there's no limit on messages, just Files and Photos.? Probably best to email Mark at Support @ for a definitive answer.
Duane
-- Olivia_J On the internet, nobody knows you're a cat
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I may be totally wrong, but the way I read the terms here, there's no limit on messages, just Files and Photos. Probably best to email Mark at Support @ groups.io for a definitive answer.
Duane
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Hi Shal and all -
I figured I should join this group on 'the other side' as you referred to it. I'd like to see how the experiments go here. I'm not having much luck getting members to test the groups I've set up so far.
I'm a little concerned with the news coming out about Yahoo's future. I have a couple groups over there with extensive archives, and I think IO is in pretty good shape for what we really need. It would be nice to have the links, but if we can bring over the message archives through the transfer process, that would be the most critical. One think I hadn't thought of previously is the space available for messages. One group goes back to the days of onelist back in 1998. I'd hate to lose some of the archives because we exceeded storage space immediately. I can't find the space the message archives currently take up om Yahoo, but we've just passed 8500 messages.
That's enough noise for for now. Thanks!
Dano
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Re: Group . IO front page
Donna,
I didn't ask any question about photo constraints, so I don't know what this is about. I've been happy with my cover photos on all of my Groups.io groups so far. Thanks.
Olivia_J
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Donna <pnwfemale@...> wrote: Olivia,
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There does not seem to be any constraints to the photo that you can have on your group's home page.? It doesn't necessarily have to be shaped like the cover photos that are on Yahoo Groups.? Take a look at my group:? /g/Artists_Cafe?
Donna
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-- Olivia_J On the internet, nobody knows you're a cat
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Re: Group . IO front page
Olivia,
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There does not seem to be any constraints to the photo that you can have on your group's home page.? It doesn't necessarily have to be shaped like the cover photos that are on Yahoo Groups.? Take a look at my group:? /g/Artists_Cafe
You can also look at my friend's group:? /g/BreastCancer2Group
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Donna
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Re: Group . IO front page
I personally think 's cover photo is more equivalent to YG's 'title photo,' because that's the at the top. The home page photo on YG is halfway down the page. But it doesn't really matter! You can have a photo!
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On Dec 14, 2015, at 8:12 AM, vickie via < vickie_00@...> wrote:
?Olivia. Shall Cleared this up for me.. It's the cover photo. which would be the same as ?yahoo's ?home page photo. ? I ?need to start using a different language with group. io..?
Your always so helpful? Thank you Olivia..?
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Re: Group . IO front page
I am up to date on everything now Dean.?
and I must say I love, love , love your group photo..?
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From: Daddy Dean <daddydean1@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 9:46 PM
Hi Vicky, Here is a link to my Group, the photo for the group is of an original trade cards used by Wheeler and Wilson to promote their sewing machines.? This card is for their New Number 9 model!? /g/Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-MachinesDean [excess quotes trimmed by moderator]
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Re: Group . IO front page
Here a
composite I made for mine
/g/Old-Time-Video
On 12/13/2015 9:10 PM, vickie via
Groups.io wrote:
?I searched some of
the groups listed and none had front page photos.?
Perhaps
it was just those I clicked on had no photos
I would
love to see the front page of any group with it's group front
page photo..
I would
like to see what it looks like
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God Bless America
"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer."
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Re: Group . IO front page
?Olivia. Shall Cleared this up for me.. It's the cover photo. which would be the same as ?yahoo's ?home page photo. ? I ?need to start using a different language with group. io..?
Your always so helpful? Thank you Olivia..?
From: oliviaj_catlady <oliviajcatlady@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Group . IO front page
Could there be some confusion here between Yahoo's "title page photo" and "home page photo"? Yahoo has both. I think Groups.io just has the equivalent of Yahoo's title page photo. I guess you could call that a cover photo.
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Shal Farley
Jim Poston
Duane
D R Stinson
Donna