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Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

Thanks Shal... that was it -- my face is red, as two others tried to lead me there as well, but I drove right by it. Sigh.
It all works properly now
Best,
jerome


Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

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Jerome,

I've re-checked it all and everything 'appears' to be correct: ? My user is logged in and the album is set for group access and updated.

You didn't mention checking the group setting, so I'm not sure if you included that in "re-checked it all":



Shal


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Re: Group transfer and message ID #transfer #messages

 

Bertrand,

The current group is linked to a database which refers to the yahoo
group's messages using the yahoo message number.
As Bruce implied, you're in a tough spot here because there will only be piecewise correlation between the numbering from the Y!Group and in the Groups.io group.

If you're a moderator you can use "View Source" in the More menu to see the header of the message. Groups.io added one at the top to identify the corresponding Yahoo Group message number:

X-Yahoo-Msgnum:

With enough tedious effort you could use that info to find and record the endpoints of each segment that has the same offset (the offset should be monotonically increasing. It may not be too arduous if members and mods seldom deleted any messages in the Yahoo Group. Of course updating your database would be another effort.

Hmm, I wonder if the transfer agent could be improved to include that table of segments in the transfer results notice. That might be a reasonable request to make in the beta group:


With the right kind of programming skills one might be able to create a script to go read them all and produce a correspondence table, or a list of the segments (as above).

Or, the fact that data is available leads to a different request you could make on beta@ - a means to search and/or sort by Y!Group number.

Shal


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Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

Thanks for the suggestions Duane...

I've re-checked it all and everything 'appears' to be correct: ? My user is logged in and the album is set for group access and updated.?

Still no 'Add Photos' option present for the user, so no access.

Thanks,
jerome


Re: Replace Moderator

 

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¡°Files and photos can be moved manually by the members who had added them. They can also be moved by you but will get listed under your profile.¡±

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I did the same thing as you, and the ownership of the files changed to me also, since I was the one that uploaded them to our new groups.io group. So that the original creators of the files got their credit for the files I uploaded, I added their name to the description of each file that I could find an owner of. An example would be ¡°Ahoy For Projects by David & Carol Sibley¡±.

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Photos was a different story, since our members can make their own Photo Albums. For the most part albums made by past members that were not current members of the new site, were either assigned to the owner of the group (Me), or had no ownership at all, but as the group owner I could still control the album. There were a few albums, where the owners of the albums transferred to the new group, but lost ownership of their albums in the new group. In those cases the album owners had to download all they wanted out of their album, then make a new album to upload their things into, after I deleted their old album. It was done that way, so the naming convention of the albums stayed in alphabetical order. I still have members that have albums they never took ownership of to date (They¡¯ve been alerted to this situation a couple of times), so I imagine when they finally get around to wanting to do something with their albums they¡¯ll be notifying me of their problem.

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Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

Check the thread at /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/20335683 that started just before you posted.

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Re: Searching issues

 

Alexis,

When using the search option, it seems to return results for the first
50 or so lines, but beyond that everything is completely ignored.
I have contacted the support email address but not heard anything back
as yet. (Does this take like a day, a week, a month?)
You should have promptly received an automated "[Request received]" message from support. If not, you need to figure out if it landed in your Spam folder or was otherwise diverted by your email service, or if your message wasn't sent, or was sent to the wrong address.

If you got the automated reply, but are awaiting a human response that normally takes a day or so, but recently support has been innundated both with Yahoo Group transfer requests and likely with issues relating to Europe's new GDPR law. Still, it shouldn't take Mark more than a few days to respond.

I'd be interested to hear what response you (eventually) get from support, or however this issue turns out. If there's an undocumented restriction on searching lengthy messages that deserves to be brought to light.

Also, is there a post or a wiki page or such like that also explains
how the search routine actually works.
Thanks Bruce for that excellent page!
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Using-the-Search-Engine

Part of the data in the messages are in hexadecimal format and I
notice that if I enter one in the search field it appears it tries to
search on each individual character rather than the entire 'word'
for example if I search on A1DEF2 the results highlight every 'A',
every '1', every 'D', etc
That's... peculiar.

I tried searching for that and got no results, rather than a bunch of messages with those characters highlighted. But I didn't create any messages that would actually contain that string so maybe I didn't have the initial conditions of the test set up correctly.

You didn't accidentally include any invisible separators between those characters did you? For example, did you simply type the string "A1DEF2" into the search box or did you copy/paste it from somewhere (like a message body)?

Shal


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Re: Members cannot post photos in my group - why not? #membership #photos #notworking

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Is there something I need to change in the group settings, or is it something the members need to do first??

Go to Admin>Settings. Scroll nearly to the bottom. There is a section on Photos. Make sure the settings are as you want them to be.

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Re: Members cannot post photos in my group - why not? #membership #photos #notworking

 

Go to Admin->Settings->Features->Photos->Permissions. Make sure it is set to "subscribers can view and upload."

If this is set correctly and subscribers are still having trouble, it's probably because they aren't logged in. Refer them to this for login instructions: /static/help#password

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Subject: [GMF] Members cannot post photos in my group - why not? #membership #photos #notworking

I'd like to know why members of my group cannot post photos at this time as it would be a useful thing for my group. Is there something I need to change in the group settings, or is it something the members need to do first??

Thanks, John1097.



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user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

I have a user account different from my owner account which I use for testing.

What I was hoping for is for a user to be able to create a photo album, add photos, and make it possible for others to add photos that album. No option for user to create album was visible after user selected Photos,?so I as owner created the album and made it accessible for anyone to upload photos. User still cannot add photos. ?

What am I missing here -- Thanks for any help
jerome


Members cannot post photos in my group - why not? #membership #photos #notworking

John
 

I'd like to know why members of my group cannot post photos at this time as it would be a useful thing for my group. Is there something I need to change in the group settings, or is it something the members need to do first??

Thanks, John1097.


Re: Help with STAT Letters

 

AliceT,

When we send Stationery letters it goes to the group all broken up.
I don't have experience with stationary groups, but my understanding is that there are a few group settings that are relevant.

In the Message Formatting box:

Normalize HTML Emails - don't check
Attachments - allow
Plain Text Only - don't check

In the Photos box:

Max Size In Email - No resizing

Also, each subscriber has a setting to control the largest allowed attachment. That might affect the stationary images (I'm not sure about that). On your group's Settings page, in the "Default Sub Settings" tab, you might want:

Max Attachment Size - Unlimited

That won't affect any current subscribers, but it will set the default for new subscribers when they join your group.

Shal


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#suggestion - Add address field to profile #suggestion

 

In our application, it would be helpful if members could include their personal contact information, including mailing address, in their profile which could then be downloaded for snail mail and contact lists.

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Not sure how/if GDPR would come into play, but since it would be voluntary it should not be a problem.

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Here is my suggestion:

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In the profile have the following optional fields:

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Mailing address:

Address 1

Address 2

City, State, Zip

Country

Phone:

Cell

Home

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In the Admin Settings, there would be a checkbox that says ¡°Include personal contact information in the member profile.¡±??The box would default to un-checked so those groups who do not want to collect personal information would not be affected.

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Then if this could be downloaded as an Excel (or CSV) file it could then be easily used for mailing.

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Peace,

Tom

(Also submitted to the Beta?Group.)


Re: #suggestion - Add address field to profile #suggestion

 

Tom,

In our application, it would be helpful if members had a place to
include their mailing address in their profile which could then be
downloaded for snail mail.
If you drop that into the Groups.io "suggestion box" (the beta group) I'll second it.


That would be handy in my classmate groups - we're a bunch of people who've kept in touch for (far too many) decades in real life, so most of us don't mind sharing real-world contact info (address, phone number, etc.) with other group members.

We use a database table for that now, but it has a bit of an out-of-sight, out-of-mind problem -- the group Directory is more visible.

Not sure how/if GDPR would come into play, ...
Me either (IANAL) but given that filling in the info would be purely voluntary, and would be for the express purpose of sharing it with other group members, I don't see a practical problem.

Shal


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Re: Searching issues

 

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Personally, I don¡¯t have a problem with how searching works.

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Re: Searching issues

 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 09:18 am, Alexis wrote:
As for the speed, well it may be fast but if it only searches part of a message then it is of no use at all.
I think the premise is that by the time you've gotten 500 words into a message the subject matter should have been mentioned at least once. Groups.io was set up to accommodate discussion groups...those with a need to post lengthy documents as messages and rely on the search engine to index those documents for them are in a definite minority here.

Would anyone else have more definitive info please?
See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Using-the-Search-Engine

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Re: Group transfer and message ID #transfer #messages

 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 08:26 am, <yeurc_h@...> wrote:
So my question is: during the transfer process, will the imported messages get the same message ID/number or at least the new message ID will be a concatenation of the former yahoo message number and something else?
Message numbers in any given groups.io group start at 1. I believe the transfer agent simply inserts the messages in the same order that they appear in the Y!G, incrementing as it goes.?If?there are any gaps in the posts to your Yahoo group (posts that were subsequently deleted or whatever), things will certainly get out of whack at that point. Also, if you've posted anything to your new group you are already out of sync.?

You can always do the transfer and cross your fingers, but I wouldn't get my hopes too high.

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Re: Replace Moderator

Prasad Agrahar
 

Some years ago I ran into a similar situation with a Yahoo group when the owner either passed or abandoned the group. Luckily I was a moderator with limited level of authorizations. I had a long dialog with Yahoogroups support people and they raised my authorizations to maximum level but refused to change me to owner. The group has still remained active. I have recently succeeded in moving it to groups.io.?

Today Yahoo has no any support for their groups and so above is no longer an option. If ypou are not a moderator the only method could be that you create a new group and ask members of your Yahoo group to join it. Files and photos can be moved manually by the members who had added them. They can also be moved by you but will get listed under your profile.?

Prasad

On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 9:15:35 AM EDT, qy3bg75@... <qy3bg75@...> wrote:


I have searched but cannot find an answer to my question.? Please excuse me if it is there and I missed it.

The moderator of OTRonPando recently passed away.? There appears to be no co-moderator.? How do we go about getting moderators to replace the deceased moderator?? This would seem to be the same case as a mod who has abandoned the group.

Thanks - River


Re: Searching issues

 

Another thing to keep in mind is that search only finds complete words.? If you were searching for A1DEF2 as part of C2A1DEF2, it won't be found.? Basically, you can search for items that have a space on either end.? I haven't yet found a post long enough to check on finding it further down, but maybe this will allow you to do so.? There has been some discussion on the beta group about having partial searches, especially with things like part numbers (or code), but no progress yet.

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Re: Searching issues

 

Thanks for the reply Milt.

As for the speed, well it may be fast but if it only searches part of a message then it is of no use at all.

After all if most messages are less than 50 lines or 500 words long, then it makes no sense to limit the amount of the message it searches on to speed things up, as the 'limits' will not be reached.

Would anyone else have more definitive info please?

Cheers
Alexis

On 26/05/2018 06:03, Milt Baker wrote:
I'm no expert on search, Alexis, but I find that when I put the search term I'm
looking for in quotes "like this for example" that's what the search
returns--every incidence where those words in that sequence appear. Give it a shot!
No experience searching GIO beyond 50 or so lines because most posts on my group
are no longer than that. However, if I were writing code for a search and
wanted to speed up the search (and WOW, the GIO search is *FAST!*), I'd probably
limit the search to the first 500 words or 50 lines or something similar.
Milt