Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

NEW: You can export all of your account data.

A very cool feature for members who want to keep an archive of all of their posts and other contributions.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

SYSADMIN: Upgraded the mail email sending machine.
BUGFIX: When parsing an emoji (":emojiname:") that doesn't exist, the

trailing colon would disappear.

NEW: Timestamps are included in activity log exports.
BUGFIX: HTML special characters in calendar descriptions were not

properly escaped in generated ICS files.

NEW: You can export the activity log now as part of the export group

process, and exports are now logged.

INTERNAL: Increased nsqd message size limits for large export group

archives.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Sharon, was one address an alias or did the member have two accounts?

Frances

Sounds to me like confusion on the part of her email client.? I think she has the email accounts linked somewhere.

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Marina,

I agree that it is all a bit confusing.

Bruce gave a good rundown of the status and why it exists. If there's anything I can clarify in the Wiki let me know.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

Nevertheless, in the members' list they show with a NC badge. I sent
them a confirmation mail but nothing changed. I'm not sure what to do.

There's not much else you can do. Maybe those notices have landed in their spam folder, or they are simply ignoring them. If you have another way to reach those members you could try encouraging them to look for the confirmation notices and to follow the instructions in those emails.

On the other hand, we have a pending member who's been sitting there
for a quite while, since May 2. We sent him two confirmation mails
with no success. I checked his delivery history and found this message
dated May 3:
"2.6.0 <[email protected]>
[InternalId=11927124306244,
Hostname=DB5EUR03HT080.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com]
8748 bytes in 0.308, 27.729 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery"
So, apparently, he did not even receive the two confirmation mails.

That's actually a success code (2.x.x) - so outlook.com is saying that it had queued the message for delivery to the member. Of course it doesn't say /where/ it will deliver the message - to the member's Inbox or Spam or elsewhere.

Shal


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Subscriber has two addresses — one her professional account and one gmail account.

Both were subscribed to the list but when she posted from her professional account, the copy would be posted as coming from gmail.

She has now deleted the gmail account on groups.io but the same thing is still happening.

Ideas?

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On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 01:46 pm, Jim Betz wrote:

Digest is a member selectable option - it's under the control of the member - not the moderator(s).

? I don't even understand why you would want to do that.?

If you look at Marie Alline's sig line, she runs a couple of art groups that use embedded graphics. I'm sure restricting users to individual messages would be desirable in that case.

Bruce
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You can however disable No Mail function.? ? ? ? ?

Marty,

Its been 4-5 days since I started the "automatic" switch from
Yahoogroups to Groups.IO. I sent the invite as directed from my
Yahoogroup. Heard nothing and gotten no response or updates.

There's about a two week backlog as of Thursday the 17th.


If you haven't, check the In Process page for you group transfer for any alerts or status.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8352

Shal


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Digest is a member selectable option - it's under the control of the member - not the moderator(s).

? I don't even understand why you would want to do that.? If you have an important message
that needs to go out "now" ... send it as a Special Notice.
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There was about a one day suspension in transfers last week when Yahoo Groups' CAPTCHA mechanism was not working. As of Thursday the 17th transfers have resumed, with about a two-week backlog.


Shal


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On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 05:42 am, Milt Baker wrote:

Please reframe or restate it and I'll try to answer.? What do you mean by "the system provided by Groups.io"?

Sorry for the delay in responding; we have been out. I wouldn't have commented at all had you not added the line about the KISS Principle. Given that the notifications to Moderators that exist within the Groups.io system, and the ability to examine Moderator activity via the Activity Log I simply don't see what benefits having another "Moderators' email address" confers on the Owner & Moderators. I agree with Bruce about having suitable mechanisms for "disaster recovery", but as far as I can see the two concepts aren't connected.

My views may, of course, be affected by having to deal with Group Members who have more than one account (something we try to discourage for other reasons) and then get themselves into a tangle when they try to use one membership by logging into the other and the like, or try to edit the Display Name on one account and finish up changing the other and so on.

Chris

Go to Admin > Settings and select the Export Group Data button at the top.? From there, you can choose which parts you want to download.? The site will create a zip file containing your choices and send you an email with the download link you when it's ready.

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You can now download just about everything. See Settings. Export Group Data.
I just wish that Groups.io would settle on one term for all the posts or emails. We use both Messages or Archives. It is confusing!

Frances

None that I'm aware of.? The delivery selections are up to the individual members.? If you don't already have it set, under Admin > Settings, you can select the Default Sub Settings tab and set it so that new members start with whatever you prefer, but they can always change it later.

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Dear group managers,

Is it possible to download all messages from an iogroup for offline research purposes or archiving? If it is, could you explain how this works?

Kind regards!

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Is there a way to disable the digest option in a group?

Thanks for any help with this.
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On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 05:55 am, Milt Baker wrote:

To keep group management simple, we created a single Gmail account for all five moderators to use.

Multiple owner email addresses/accounts is a necessary safeguard to ensure you can recover from problems (accidental account deletion, kicked off for spam, owner passes away, etc.). I kinda like this idea for Moderator activities, though (i.e.: managing messages and subscriptions). It would indeed help avoid duplication of effort.?
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Sorry, Chris, but I do not understand your question.? Please reframe or restate it and I'll try to answer.? What do you mean by "the system provided by Groups.io"?

Milt

I believe the nearest choice is actually 1024x1024.? There shouldn't be any problem increasing that after the transfer, it will just use up space faster.? If you haven't already, try uploading a few photos using different settings for the limits.? You may find that the upload size isn't as important as some people think.? I've got a couple of my groups set to 312x312 and we haven't missed anything yet.? Actual displayed size on a 19" computer screen is about 720x720.

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