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Re: Timeline for group transfers

 

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Might ?it help if instead of sending an invite we did a direct add to the yahoo group mailing list? ?I think that still works.?

Gary


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:53:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMF] Timeline for group transfers
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I've read reports this morning in my Y!groups that the CAPTCHA mechanism, required to accept an invite or to join by web, is not working - fails to present an image to solve.?

If that's the case it may be another roadblock for the transfer agent.

Shal

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Re: [email protected] not joining

 

I have four groups in ready-to-go mode. All have been waiting for at least 12 days.. Is there any news on speeds, please?
HH
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Re: Timeline for group transfers

 

I've read reports this morning in my Y!groups that the CAPTCHA mechanism, required to accept an invite or to join by web, is not working - fails to present an image to solve.?

If that's the case it may be another roadblock for the transfer agent.

Shal

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Re: Timeline for group transfers

 

Mark was on vacation for about 10 days and transfers were on hold during that time because they require manual intervention.? There was a backlog of about 400 transfers when he returned.? Depending on the backlog, size of the groups transferring, and a few other variables, it can take some time for your group(s) to get to the top of the queue.? I'd give it 2-3 weeks after you get the notice that the invitation has been received.? From what I've heard, that can seem like forever as things on YG continue to deteriorate.? Makes me really glad I moved here over 3 years ago before transfers piled up! ;>)

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Re: What does "Not Confirmed" mean?

 

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:02 am, Chris Jones wrote:
When you referred to the "member page" I take it that you meant "Pending Member" page. There is a difference.

On a group that doesn't have restricted membership (no approval needed), they become a member, but have an NC by their name.? There is a Pending Approval page on these type groups, but there's never anyone shown there.

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Re: How long does it take for a group invite to go out?

 

Thanks!
I tried to send this last night, ~18 hours ago, guess I will wait a bit longer.


Re: How long does it take for a group invite to go out?

 

I did that same thing when I moved my group.? As I remember, it only took a couple of hours, and I received notification when they were sent.

Cacky

On 5/16/2018 11:46 AM, MOB in VA wrote:
I sent out a group invite for a new group to 100+ email addresses.? I got a message that they would be reviewed then sent.? About how long does this take, and will I know if there is an issue with it?? I hesitate to also send out an email with a link then have everyone get the direct invitation.
Thanks,
Margaret


Re: [email protected] not joining

 

I have two group transfers stuck at the "we have received the invitation" mode...? the system has not accepted the invitations for about a week.


Re: Timeline for group transfers

 

My first group transfer went well, but 2 more are "stuck" I sent the invitation to [email protected], the status checker says that it got the invite and get
"We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite."

but nothing happens, the invitation never get's accepted, since I see no pending members in these groups (largescale and VaioU70).

The indications are that groups.io never accepted the invitation... and I did send the invitations again...

looks broken...


How long does it take for a group invite to go out?

 

I sent out a group invite for a new group to 100+ email addresses.? I got a message that they would be reviewed then sent.? About how long does this take, and will I know if there is an issue with it?? I hesitate to also send out an email with a link then have everyone get the direct invitation.
Thanks,
Margaret


Re: Members receiving post at different times

 

Duane,
Thanks for the reminder about moderated groups.? The tool is still good to trace the message after it leaves groups.io.
Toby


Re: What does "Not Confirmed" mean?

 

If someone who either (a) has no existing Groups.io Account, or (b) has an account but proceeds without logging in to it, applies to join a Group then Groups.io wants to know that the request to join is "real" and not spurious, possibly to the point of being a spammer. In order to determine the legitimacy of the application Groups.io returns a message to the applicant which basically means "is this application real?" Only when that confirmation is returned does membership process move ahead.

However, it is all rather confusing; it also depends on whether the application comes in by email, or from a group webpage, and whether the group in question is "restricted" (the application requiring specific approval by an Owner or Moderator) or "unrestricted" (not requiring specific Owner or Moderator approval) as well as the (a) or (b) criteria mentioned in the paragraph above. The sequence can also be modified by whether or not the group in question makes use of "Pending Subscription" messages as part of its entry process.

I said above "it is all rather confusing", and that is from the perspective of a group Moderator (me!) who has at least some idea about what is going on; how it looks to a random applicant I cannot begin to imagine. We get some applications showing up in "Pending Members" that expire after 14 days because the applicant does precisely nothing; others respond as required within minutes (including responding to the Pending Subscription message) and their becoming a member is smooth and untroubled.

"Not Confirmed" means that the applicant has not confirmed that they really do want to join! Until they do then the application is automatically put on hold,although there is nothing to stop an O / M overriding that hold; arguably not a very good idea. When you referred to the "member page" I take it that you meant "Pending Member" page. There is a difference.

Chris


Re: What does "Not Confirmed" mean?

 

If he lost his confirmation email, he can also confirm his account by logging on.?/static/help#password

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Re: What does "Not Confirmed" mean?

 

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 08:15 am, <mike@...> wrote:
New user tries to sign up.? Everything looks ok on member page -- except there is a "not confirmed" icon.
If someone subscribes to your group and their email address is not yet present among groups.io users, the system sends them a confirmation email. They have to click on a link in that email to confirm that it's a legitimate address.

See also:
/static/help#confirmemail
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Re: What does "Not Confirmed" mean?

 

That means they haven't confirmed their email address with groups.io.? They were sent an email telling them how to do it.? If they don't have that email, you can send another by clicking on the row for their entry anyplace except on the check box.? On their membership page, scroll to the bottom and click on "Send Conformation Email".

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Re: When I am just a member why doesn't the group I belong to show up in "My groups"

 

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 05:42 am, Bonnie Rowley wrote:
I experience the same thing trying to unsubscribe from a group.
There are multiple ways to unsubscribe.

Option A (easiest option):
1) Open your email client.
2) Log into the email account (not the GIO group) that you want to unsubscribe
3) Send a blank email to?[email protected]?, (replacing GROUPNAME with the actual name, of course)
4) You are done.

Option B:
1) Log into groups.io using the email address that you want to unsubscribe (/static/help#password)
2) Go to the group
3) Click on Subscription
4) Click on the big red "unsubscribe" button at the bottom of the page

Option C:
1) If you no longer have access to the email address that you want to unsubscribe, contact the group owner ([email protected]) and have him/her kick you off.

Bruce
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What does "Not Confirmed" mean?

 

New user tries to sign up.? Everything looks ok on member page -- except there is a "not confirmed" icon.
I can send him a message - but he gets no messages from the group and says he can't log in.?
? Thanks.


Re: Timeline for group transfers

 

You could have them check the progress using the information at /g/GroupManagersForum/message/6662

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Timeline for group transfers

 

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Is there any up-to-date information on the wait for group transfer from yahoo to io groups?
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A couple of friends set the wheels in motion over 3 weeks ago for their groups?and the transfer has not happened yet.? Is there anything they could/should do?
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Barbara


Re: Bouncing

Bob Cook
 

2 things
1. The person that is bouncing....his email address is evidently hosted by GoDaddy (xxx@... (Godwin is his last name)).
Typically, he would receive at most 20 emails per day from

2. I also see that a lot of people using an Apple mail account are bouncing with the following message -?
Is there anything that can be done to correct this?

Bob

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:50 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Bob,

One of my members is bouncing and if I look at their history, I see this:
<66.175.222.12> This IP has sent too many messages this hour. IB504?

The IP address is owned by Linode, apparently one of the servers leased by Groups.io.

what does this mean and how can it be fixed?

As Bruce said, it apparently means that the member's email service does not recognize Groups.io as a legit email list service, and is applying a limit to the number of messages it will accept from Groups.io's server.

The message doesn't specify whether that limit is being applied per user, or to their service overall. But either way, the member should copy/paste that response code and text to their email service's tech support and explain to them that messages from that server (and Groups.io generally) are wanted and are not to be rejected.

If the member can't get their service to "play nice" perhaps Mark can talk to them. So I'd escalate the issue to him if the email service ignores their customer.

Shal


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