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Re: Is there a way to keep a member's email from showing up on the member's list?
Bruce,
Subscribers can also create an email alias in their account settings. ...Here they can add their obfuscating address, if they want. The email alias is not for the purpose of obfuscation. In fact, only the sender will ever know that the alias was used. The emails sent out to group members will contain the posting member's subscription address, not the alias. The reason has to do with the original purpose of the feature: to cope with email systems where the outgoing address differs somewhat from the receive address. Those situations are rare now, but still happen with some email services. For example: user @ ? <-- Receiving address, also the member's subscription address user @ ? <-- Sending alias, for a system with this odd characteristic. None of this hides the member's email address in received messages, which still shows up in the "From" field. Correct. A member who posts messages cannot keep their subscription address hidden from other members; that's a feature that does not exist within Groups.io (unlike Y!Groups). Use the search word "anonymous" if you want to find a lot of discussion of the subject in beta, mostly from a few years back. So for Mike's purpose setting up an email address which doesn't reveal the sender's identity (it isn't "fake", it has to be a working email address) is those individual's only real option. Fortunately Gmail and other services support the ability to retrieve messages sent to such addresses into one's "primary" Inbox. In essence Gmail's web interface can act as an email client (POP/SMTP) to retrieve messages from and send messages as the other account(s). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: deleting Photos
Win,
Other than cluttering up the Emailed Photos album, is there a reason to bother deleting them? An alternative is in the Message Formatting section of your group's settings: Delete Old Attachments when out of space, and then just let the site deal with them: For what it is worth, some ideas to make it easier to delete or consolidate these repeat photos have been discussed in beta. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: User name is not set
Mike,
When I export a Y!Group manage members list in CSV format I get exactly six columns: Display Name, Email, Status, Delivery, Posting, Joined With no misalignment caused by empty cells in the Display Name. I think what you describe happened shortly after the Neo roll-out, but has been fixed for years (Firefox, Windows10).
There are no irregularities in the CSV produced by Groups.io. Email, Display Name, Username, Joined, Status, Post Status, Email Delivery, Message Selection, Auto Follow Replies, Mod Status, User Status Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: User name is not set
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIn Yahoo groups, the display name is a problem when it comes to downloading a member database. You can display the member list in what looks like a normal spreadsheet layout with 7 columns, but when you download or copy the list, the entries of members using a display name have two extra columns that other members do not; the display names are aliased in, so to speak. So a normal, no-display-name data row has 7 cells, while a data row with a display name has 9 cells. Naturally, this wreaks havoc with any spreadsheet you copy the list into, such as Excel or Word. ? Is it the same in groups.io¡ªis the display name itself in the member database or is it ¡°aliased¡± and thus not treated as an actual cell? ? Am I explaining this well? ? ? From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] User name is not set ? On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 01:03 pm, Randy Thomson wrote: n my group the profile has an entry "User name is not set". What is the significance of that statement? Each person's account has a
"user name" and a "display name." Neither is all that
significant for actually participating in GIO, as the email address is the user
ID. |
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Re: deleting Photos
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 08:06 pm, WBennett wrote:
Actually as it is all such a pain I am considering paying the $10 a month so I don¡¯t have to do it... lol.I have a Premium group and still have to delete those annoying photos one by one. I suspect if Mr Fletcher made bulk photo deletion a Premium-only feature he might have a lot more paying customers. :-) Bruce |
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Re: deleting Photos
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPaul, you are so right there !!!
Win
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Subject: Re: [GMF] deleting Photos ?
Win,
I had/have the same problem with deletions. No suggestions, it is still way better than Yahoo. Paul, Ohio, USA ?
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018, 12:05:53 PM EDT, WBennett
<del13piero@...> wrote:
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I am finding that sometimes when I click on a photo it doesn¡¯t come
up, the photo before or after appears. Is this a known problem or am I just
unlucky? ? |
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Re: deleting Photos
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks Bruce, I¡¯ll try that...
Actually as it is all such a pain I am considering paying the $10 a month
so I don¡¯t have to do it... lol.
Win
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Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 09:05 am, WBennett wrote: I am finding that sometimes when I click on a photo it doesn¡¯t come up, the photo before or after appears. Is this a known problem or am I just unlucky?I feel your pain, especially with all those miniature sig-line images that some folks can't seem to do without. As if the one-by-one process of deleting such photos isn't annoying enough, due to browser caching I often find it necessary to refresh the screen between deletions so my next click will select the right photo. So no, it's nothing unique to your setup. Bruce |
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Re: Best way to transfer several groups
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 03:07 pm, Laurence Taylor wrote:
I have half a dozen or so groups at Yahoo. Would be be better to transferIt depends. If you feel you have a good grasp of the process, the sooner you get them in the queue the faster they will be transferred. However, there may be some advantage to doing one transfer with a smaller group and working through any glitches before doing the bigger ones. That's the approach I took about three months ago and in hindsight I'm glad I did it that way. Your call, Bruce |
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Re: User name is not set
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 01:03 pm, Randy Thomson wrote:
n my group the profile has an entry "User name is not set". What is the significance of that statement?Each person's account has a "user name" and a "display name." Neither is all that significant for actually participating in GIO, as the email address is the user ID. If the user creates a profile or fills out the proper fields in their account they have the option of populating a "display name." I believe that if they post to the group, sometimes a display name is also taken from their message header and populated automatically. What I did in my group was go through all these entries in the Member List and populate these names for them, just so I could keep track of what email address goes with what person. For my particular group, this is necessary, as membership in the parent organization is required for membership in the GIO group, and otherwise it's difficult to keep track of who to boot when they let their membership expire. Other group owners consider this a terrible faux pas and a breach of subscriber's "right to internet anonymity" (whatever that means).?What you do with your group is up to you. It IS your group, after all. Hope this helps, Bruce |
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Re: Is there a way to keep a member's email from showing up on the member's list?
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 04:03 pm, <mike@...> wrote:
For political reasons, a few people would like to join my group - but want to remain anonymous.? Other than them setting up a "fake" email address that then forwards to their regular one - can I somehow hide their email - or can they hide it when they first subscribe?Group members cannot email others via the "directory" unless they create a group profile and enable visibility. Go to Subscription->Group Profile->Edit Group Profile->Profile Privacy to see what I mean. As group owners, we can email anybody, so that does not apply to us...but don't be confused by this. Unless the member enables it, others can't see or use the "email me" link. Subscribers can also create an email alias in their account settings. They need to click on their name at upper right and select Account. Then pull down the "Advanced Settings for Email Aliases" menu near the bottom of the resulting page. Here they can add their obfuscating address, if they want. Note that these are alternate, send-only email addresses...all group messages will still be received at the primary address. As a group owner, it's generally a bad idea to make the Members List accessible to other group members, as Marie Alline mentioned. See Admin->Settings->Privacy->Members Visible for this. You can also completely disable the Member Directory (not the same thing) in the pull-down menu immediately above if you want. None of this hides the member's email address in received messages, which still shows up in the "From" field. But at least through use of these various options a group member can send from one address and receive at another and only the group owner will ever know what the receiving address is. I hope this helps, but it was probably more confusing than enlightening. Bruce |
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Re: Sorting Files withing a Folder Query?
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 04:49 pm, Denny G. wrote:
Is it possible to sort files withing a folder, for example, a list of newsletters (PDF's) that we publish each month? I see you can now sort top to bottom and vice versa, but it would be nice to sort alphabetically by title, or date, etc.Click on any of the blue headings at the top (Name Type Size Uploaded (= Date)) and it will change the sort order. Why we can't also do this for "Uploaded By" is a mystery. Hope this helps, Bruce |
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Re: deleting Photos
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý? ¡°While this may seem like a good thing, they will also go missing from your message archives.¡± ? The one thing I was sad to see that wouldn¡¯t transfer was the Attachments. ? Don |
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Re: Is there a way to keep a member's email from showing up on the member's list?
Marie Alline
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Date: 4/25/2018 6:05:21 PM
Subject: [GMF] Is there a way to keep a member's email from showing up on the member's list? ? For political reasons, a few people would like to join my group - but want to remain anonymous.? Other than them setting up a "fake" email address that then forwards to their regular one - can I somehow hide their email - or can they hide it when they first subscribe?? In the "directory" user's name can be "faked" - but it appears anyone can click and email directly to that person. ? -- Marie Alline |
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Re: Can a poll be locked?
Marie Alline
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Date: 4/25/2018 5:43:17 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Can a poll be locked?
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Thanks. I was looking from within the poll rather than in the poll list. Randy T ? [Excess quote and duplicate signature removed by moderator]?
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Is there a way to keep a member's email from showing up on the member's list?
For political reasons, a few people would like to join my group - but want to remain anonymous.? Other than them setting up a "fake" email address that then forwards to their regular one - can I somehow hide their email - or can they hide it when they first subscribe?
? In the "directory" user's name can be "faked" - but it appears anyone can click and email directly to that person. |
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Re: Can a poll be locked?
Randy Thomson
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks. I was looking from within the poll rather than in the poll list. Randy T ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marie Alline ? Yes it can. If you go to your polls, via Messages/topics, polls you will see a little drop down arrow next the the name of each poll. Just click on that to close or delete poll. Closing it will lock it so results can be viewed but it is closed and can no longer be voted on. Hope this helps. Marie Alline |
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Re: I did merge
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 01:03 pm, Dan Persson wrote:
had to change home email adress (updating with new fiber connection) and made something wrong, really wrong.If you got a new address and abandoned the old one, you should not have had to merge accounts.?All you had to do was change the email address associated with your account. See?/static/help#changeemail? I suspect all is not lost, however. One account or the other should still be active. Try logging into both of them using the instructions at?/static/help#password. Once you figure out which one is working, you should be able to change your email address as needed using the link above. Please note that in groups.io, your email address IS your user ID. Unlike other sites (which often use account information for data mining), there is no separate account identifier. Hope this helps, Bruce |
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