Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
? ? Is the problem that most people use their local time (which would mean Eastern **daylight** time for me)? ?
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
Thanks Laurence. Unfortunately, changing the local PC time zone does not help. I changed it to UTC and have the same problem. I also tried changing my PC time Eastern Time (New York). I changed the time zone for the IO calendar to Eastern and get the same issue. The meeting invite says 10:00AM New York time but the .ics file says 11:00AM. I think you are right; the software writers forget to account for daylight saving!! Odd that this problem doesn't seem to have been reported previously on this discussion board though.....
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Re: Calendar Events out by 1 hour
Eldin Rammell <feedback@...> wrote: I'm new to IO so maybe I'm missing something. I'm located in the UK and
have my profile set to my current time zone (UTC). My pc is also set to
UTC time zone.
I created an event in an io Calendar and set it to send an invite to all
group members. I received the event in my email and the text of the
invite states the correct time - 4pm. However, when I open the .ics
file, the event is timed for 1 hour ahead (though it says the correct
time zone). When I click on "Copy to my Calendar" in Outlook, the event
gets added to my Outlook calendar at 5pm.... 1 hour ahead. The system is probably getting confused between UTC and BST (the software writers forget that UTC is a time, not a time zone), and is trying to "help" by thinking it should add an hour. I'm assuming that you have both the IO calendar and your PC to BST (UTC+1); try setting them both to UTC (i.e., no summer time change) and see if that works. Remember you will then be working in UTC rather than local time. (My PC is set to UTC all year round). -- rgds LAurence <>< ... Be sure not to start a tagline you can't finis
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Re: Transferring Two Groups into One Group
Sharon Villines wrote:>>Can two Yahoo groups be transferred and combined into one Groups.io? One of my groups had one email address for 2 years and then changed. Both lists have to be searched to find historically important information on policies, etc.<<
I'm not sure of the answer to your actual question, but the way I solved this issue myself, was had the newer Yahoo group transferred to groups.io and then had the older Yahoo group transferred to a subgroup of the main one on groups.io.
I don't allow posting in the "archives only" older subgroup, but anyone can go and join it and get information .
Brenda
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Re: question about deleting a subgroup
Shal Farley wrote:>>That's not at all the answer I would have expected. Or rather, I would have expected that answer for the primary group names, but not the names of subgroups.<<
Shal, when I first created MM Sanctuary and then asked Mark to make me a subgroup to host MM, we had problems and he told me I had to delete it and remake it to fix the problems.
I told him I didn't want to lose the title MM, because that was what it needed to be called, so he assured me that if I deleted the subgroup and recreated it, he would allow me to keep the original name.
So this has been happening for some time.
Brenda
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Calendar Events out by 1 hour
I'm new to IO so maybe I'm missing something. I'm located in the UK and have my profile set to my current time zone (UTC). My pc is also set to UTC time zone. I created an event in an io Calendar and set it to send an invite to all group members. I received the event in my email and the text of the invite states the correct time - 4pm. However, when I open the .ics file, the event is timed for 1 hour ahead (though it says the correct time zone). When I click on "Copy to my Calendar" in Outlook, the event gets added to my Outlook calendar at 5pm.... 1 hour ahead. Maybe I've made a really obvious mistake here but can anyone suggest how to correct this. Obviously, it is important that event invites get put into electronic calendars at the right time!!
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Re: Permissions on Export Table Option?
It doesn't look to me like there's a way to do that. I created a test table and locked it down as much as I could, but as long as my member account could see it, it could be exported.
Duane
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Permissions on Export Table Option?
Where can we set the permissions on who is allowed to export a table/Database? Thank you! Maria
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Re: Changed colors on databases
I'm Ok with the colours but I'm very new to group.io and trialling a members group and sub group - Regarding the database can anybody tell me why coloured columns do not allow type to be black as it's difficult to see white on pastel shades. Also anyone know how to change date format to English ie 27/9/2016 as?opposed to 9/27/2016?
Barry???
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Changed colors on databases
Has anyone else noticed the bizarre change of colors on database columns? ?They are really jarring and I don't like them at all.
Jean
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Re: A tale of the wiki and deleting a subgroup
Jeff,
I think you should post this in beta.
BTW, long ago, even before hearing about these issues, I decided never to use subgroups (or at least, not until they were more robust) because of other problems. I don't even remember what they were. My conclusion was that they weren't usable yet, at least for us.
J
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Jeff Powell <jrpstonecarver@...> wrote: Hi All, Today I have a cautionary tale. As some of you might recall, I looked into subgroups as part of our coming migration, hoping to solve some issues with hot topics and other things in our neighborhood group. Alas they aren't in a state where they help with that for us, because we can't move messages (and threads) between groups easily and keep replies from showing up in the wrong place. So, unless that changes, subgroups are a no go for us. Then I discussed an issue about deleting a subgroup, where Mark told me that deleting a subgroup does not free up the subgroup name for reuse unless you specifically ask for them to free it for you. OK. Such is life. Then we decided to delete the subgroup I'd created as a test. It was confusing our beta testers about what address to send to, among other things. It turns out that subgroup deletion has impacts, let me tell you. I'd created a bunch of pages in the wiki - our group FAQ - and crosslinked them in quite a few places. Imagine my surprise when all those links broke. Looking at them, I discovered that the URLs in use for the links were all invalid because they'd been created while the subgroup existed, but now that it didn't exist anymore the URLs I needed are different. Example: - ?- a URL created when the subgroup existed. (This doesn't work anymore.)
- /g/95033talk/wiki/95033talk-FAQ?- the corrected URL needed after the subgroup was deleted (or before any subgroups are created).
I suggest everyone think LONG and HARD about creating any subgroups if you have links anywhere in your system - in messages or the wiki, at least - because if you do, your first subgroup will break all those links. And if you delete all the subgroups you create, you'll have to fix all those links again. I learned this the hard way. Only about 20 links to fix in my case, that I know of, so far. YMMV. I suggest to the developers that there is something wrong with the existing subgroup scheme in this regard. No one should expect the links in their wiki pages to break if they create their first subgroup, or delete their last one. Similarly with links between messages in the message archive. There has to be a better way for subgroups to work. And while I am on this rant - sorry! - this wiki is very limiting. No images? Real URLs for internal links rather than the much simpler page name schemes used by most wikis? Without wanting to make even more work for myself, is there anything that can be done about that? --jeffp
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Re: question about deleting a subgroup
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 01:21 am, Shal Farley wrote: jeffp,
Lena wrote:
Can you rename the subgroup before deleting it? That's a good point, and I should have thought of it. In Yahoo Groups (and no doubt Groups.io) renaming a group does not reserve the old name.
If the same holds true for Groups.io subgroups then you could rename the subgroup to something arbitrary before deleting it. That way you can pick any arbitrary name to make non-reusable, leaving the desired name free for reuse.
Shal
That is a good point, but it's too late in our case. We deleted the group already, with a series of consequences that we didn't anticipate (and which I have documented in another post here on GMF, soon to be approved, I hope). Those consequences have completely convinced me that the use of subgroups - at least as currently implemented - will not work for us, and thus the renaming issue isn't one I have to worry about, even though we should have thought of it.
That said, I'd need to look to see if there is even a way to rename a subgroup. Honestly not sure of that. ? :) --jeffp
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A tale of the wiki and deleting a subgroup
Hi All, Today I have a cautionary tale. As some of you might recall, I looked into subgroups as part of our coming migration, hoping to solve some issues with hot topics and other things in our neighborhood group. Alas they aren't in a state where they help with that for us, because we can't move messages (and threads) between groups easily and keep replies from showing up in the wrong place. So, unless that changes, subgroups are a no go for us. Then I discussed an issue about deleting a subgroup, where Mark told me that deleting a subgroup does not free up the subgroup name for reuse unless you specifically ask for them to free it for you. OK. Such is life. Then we decided to delete the subgroup I'd created as a test. It was confusing our beta testers about what address to send to, among other things. It turns out that subgroup deletion has impacts, let me tell you. I'd created a bunch of pages in the wiki - our group FAQ - and crosslinked them in quite a few places. Imagine my surprise when all those links broke. Looking at them, I discovered that the URLs in use for the links were all invalid because they'd been created while the subgroup existed, but now that it didn't exist anymore the URLs I needed are different. Example: - ?- a URL created when the subgroup existed. (This doesn't work anymore.)
- /g/95033talk/wiki/95033talk-FAQ?- the corrected URL needed after the subgroup was deleted (or before any subgroups are created).
I suggest everyone think LONG and HARD about creating any subgroups if you have links anywhere in your system - in messages or the wiki, at least - because if you do, your first subgroup will break all those links. And if you delete all the subgroups you create, you'll have to fix all those links again. I learned this the hard way. Only about 20 links to fix in my case, that I know of, so far. YMMV. I suggest to the developers that there is something wrong with the existing subgroup scheme in this regard. No one should expect the links in their wiki pages to break if they create their first subgroup, or delete their last one. Similarly with links between messages in the message archive. There has to be a better way for subgroups to work. And while I am on this rant - sorry! - this wiki is very limiting. No images? Real URLs for internal links rather than the much simpler page name schemes used by most wikis? Without wanting to make even more work for myself, is there anything that can be done about that? --jeffp
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Sharon, One of my organizations has a wiki on Google Sites. Is it possible to
transfer a wiki? It is certainly possible to copy/paste content from one wiki page to another. But there could be formatting issues that you'll need to clean up if the receiving wiki has very different capabilities than the original. It has been mentioned that copy/paste from PDF documents into a Groups.io wiki can cause relatively severe problems with the resulting page. But wiki's are basically HTML inside, so I would expect them to be more compatible with each other than any wiki would be with something like PDF or DOC (completely different kinds of page description languages). I haven't heard any mention of Mark building a tool to do something like that automatically. Shal
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Re: Transferring Two Groups into One Group
Sharon, Can two Yahoo groups be transferred and combined into one Groups.io? I would think so. For the member lists I'm pretty sure that would be easy for Mark to handle. The Messages archives might be a bit trickier, but as I understand it the copy utility he built would simply add each group's messages to the messages already present. Shal
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Re: Photos and other images in email, some background
Lena, data: doesn't consume storage where the 1 GB free limit is. Interesting point. I wonder if that gives Mark a motive to detect the use of data: and treat it as if it had been cid:, at least for the purpose of storage. The user's subscription control for max attachment size is about the metering or other download restrictions some users may face, particularly on mobile devices. And for that purpose I think it would be more useful if Mark did detect data: and apply the same restrictions. Shal
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Re: question about deleting a subgroup
jeffp, Lena wrote:
Can you rename the subgroup before deleting it? That's a good point, and I should have thought of it. In Yahoo Groups (and no doubt Groups.io) renaming a group does not reserve the old name. If the same holds true for Groups.io subgroups then you could rename the subgroup to something arbitrary before deleting it. That way you can pick any arbitrary name to make non-reusable, leaving the desired name free for reuse. Shal
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One of my organizations has a wiki on Google Sites. Is it possible to transfer a wiki?
Sharon
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In Washington DC, Where all roads lead to Casablanca
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Transferring Two Groups into One Group
Can two Yahoo groups be transferred and combined into one Groups.io?
One of my groups had one email address for 2 years and then changed. Both lists have to be searched to find historically important information on policies, etc.
Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Historic Takoma Park
In Washington DC, Where all roads lead to Casablanca
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