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Re: searching for hashtags
I would expect it to do the search like it does on the Hashtag page wherever it is clicked on. Besides the home page, it also behaves the same on the Topics view and Messages view. It looks like the (bad) links use the "topics?q=#hashtag" argument instead of "search?q=#hashtag" like it does on the Hashtag page.
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Re: Posting a photo
LeeAnne,
Our group doesn't allow posting in messages but you can paste and copyIf you copy/paste from a website chances are that the image will be conveyed in an HTML message using the http: scheme - aka a "remote" image. See my longer post on the subject: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/756 I did some experimenting on how copied and pasted pictures are viewed byThat's a surprising result. I would expect that members receiving individual messages would have the image available, but might have to tell their user interface that it is ok to display remote images. I'm also curious about the image showing in full-feature digest messages. Is it shown at full size, inline in the message as sent, or is it shown as a thumbnail that one can open? I have no idea if this is true of inline pictures but you might want toWould it be helpful if I created a table in GMF's database where we can log the results of various experiments with photos in messages? If enough people added their results we might rapidly cover the most commonly used email services and user interfaces. Shal |
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Photos and other images in email, some background
LeeAnne wrote:
I did some experimenting on how copied and pasted pictures are viewed by/g/GroupManagersForum/message/747 I suspect GMF's wiki needs an advice article on the subject for Group Members but before delving into the research necessary to write it, I thought I'd set down some background information. Plain Text messages A plain text message cannot have an image (or any other formatting) contained within the message body. It can however carry attached files, and files containing photos or other images can be carried that way. There is some variability in how various email user interfaces treat attached image files. Some will show the image immediately following the message body. Some show a thumbnail of the image with a link to open it to full size. Others will show only the file name and a link to open it. How an attached image file is treated by a receiving user interface can also be influenced by how the image was encoded by the sending interface. The standard which covers such attachments (MIME - Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) allows various ways of describing the file content as well as various transfer encoding methods for carrying the file content. The choices made by the sending user interface may affect the presentation made by the receiving user interface. HTML (formatted) messages HTML (Hyper Text Markup Language) adds options for conveying an image to be presented as part of the message body. Within the <img> tag (which defines the position, size, and other characteristics of how the image is to be displayed) the src attribute tells the receiving email user interface where to find the image file. The fundamental choices are known as schemes. cid: (content ID). This scheme is the default used by most user interfaces when you upload or open an image file from your computer's files. It tells the receiving email user interface that the image is contained in an attached file within this email message, and the ID tells it which attached file is used for this <img> tag. data: This scheme is newer, and tells the user interface that the image file is encoded right here in the message body (within the <img> tag), not in a separate file. http: (Hyper Text Transfer Protocol). This scheme tells the receiving mail interface to fetch the image file from a server on the internet. Images conveyed in this fashion are sometimes referred to as "remote" images. Remote images are often used in commercial email to reduce the size of the email message itself and lower transmission costs. However they do represent a privacy concern because the act of fetching the image file can be logged by the remote server and used to track if and when people read the email message. For this reason many email user interfaces will not automatically display a remote image. The user may be asked to click to display the image, or to always display remote images from that particular sender. Bottom line There are many reasons an image might not show up in received messages, or might show for some recipients but not others. And the sending user generally has limited ability to control how an image will be conveyed in their message. Knowledge of these details can be crucial to determining what happened when messages don't display images properly. Fortunately the View Source (or View Original) of the received message will identify how the image was conveyed by the sending user interface. Unfortunately that alone will not tell how various recipient's email user interfaces might treat the image. Shal |
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Re: Posting a photo
Brenda,
I wrote: You might need to allow attachments to post an HTML embedded photo, butWe've now learned via shalstest@ that having the group strip attachments will strip (at least some kinds) of embedded images. There are at least two ways images get embedded in HTML, and one of them (the cid: scheme) uses an attachment mechanism. Another way (the data: scheme) does not resemble an attachment and might not be stripped. I don't know if there's an easy way to determine which scheme a given mail user interface might use, other than to send a test message with an image and examine the "view source" of the received message. For what it's worth, the image of your car was transferred using the cid: scheme. Shal |
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Re: Posting a photo
Brenda,
okay... I see my car here, but not in Hollow Tree, my own group.You might need to allow attachments to post an HTML embedded photo, but maybe not (report back here if you discover the answer). You would need to allow HTML though (uncheck the Plain Text Only box). On the other hand you would need to allow attachments if you attached the photo instead of embedding it. Shal |
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Re: Posting a photo
Hi All, Our group doesn't allow posting in messages but you can paste and copy from other websites (called remote something or other?) ?Archivist |
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Re: Posting a photo
Shal, That's what I was trying to do, I wanted to go test it in Shalstest, but I needed someone in here first to tell me how to do it in the first place, or point me to the right place. I hdid reset my settings for HTML before posting the car in here, and in Hollow Tree, but I think I need to change something else, because the car is showing up in here, but not in Hollow Tree. I'm going to try and change the allow attachment setting and see if that lets the picture in or not. Brenda |
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Re: Posting a photo
Brenda,
Ok, I see your cat. I was in Plain Text, and I had to go into my profileIn plain text mode you have only the paperclip (attachment) icon. You could have attached your car's photo to a text message rather than embedding it at the end of an HTML message. There are some differences though. As an attachment to a plain text message the photo might have to be opened to be seen - depends on the recipent's email user interface. Some will automatically display an image attachment, some will display a thumbnail for it, and some will only show the file name until you click it to open it. There are also differences in how groups.io handles an attached image versus one inline in HTML. When inlined in HTML Groups.io will automatically rescale the image to a maximum of 640 pixels taLL OR wide. As an attachment there's a group setting to control whether they get rescaled, and to what size. If you want to experiment with this I suggest using shalstest@ or some other test group, then report the findings here. Shal |
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