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Re: Message editor acting funky

 

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 02:31 pm, Gerald Boutin wrote:
Solution: Get yourself a faster computer ;-)
A faster computer is not going to bring back my upload button.

Bruce


Re: Downloading photos

 

Try right-clicking on the image and select "View Image". Then try Ctrl-+ and Ctrl-minus to zoom in and out. Don't bother saving. I am cranking up a Win10 VM to verify.


Re: Staying logged in on a phone

 

As long as the browser used doesn't clear cookies when it closes, the login is good for 30 days on each device.? I'd suspect a setting on their phone.

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Re: Staying logged in on a phone

 

Yes. I stay logged in all the time. I just keep the page open in Safari. Occasionally, I get logged out, and I just use the e-mail me a login link feature (but you could use a login and password as well). I stay signed in on my IPAD as well.

Jean


Re: FW: [GMF] Questions before transferring a large group from Y!G to G.IO #yahoo #transfer

Gerald Boutin
 

Any IO posting that gets put into a member spam folder whether with or without their knowledge WILL result in them being un-subscribed.?

Paul,

You are incorrectly overstating the problem.

Just the act of of putting an emailed posting into a spam folder does not trigger this event.

Gerald


[Mod note : the difficulty is that the trigger is dependent on the recipient's email service provider,
?so blanket statements are wrong for many users. Some, e.g. Gmail, don't send reports at all.]


Re: Message editor acting funky

Gerald Boutin
 

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 09:09 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Mark mentioned that there are glitches with the HTML editor and he was working
on it, so maybe that's what you're seeing.
I hope so.

My ISP's email server just came back online, so here's that screenshot I was talking about. Top half shows what happens as it first loads and the bottom what it looks like after the edit box renders.

Bruce

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?Bruce,

The screenshot was worth a thousand words. I see exactly what you see now that I know what I am looking for. In my case, all I see is a very brief flash of the initial screen as it immediately gets overwritten.

Solution: Get yourself a faster computer ;-)

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Staying logged in on a phone

 

I never use my phone for connecting to Groups.io and one of my members wrote to me and asked the following question:

I was wondering...Is there a way to stay logged into the groups on the iPhone?? I can stay logged in on my computer, but not on my phone...and I hate having to put my email and password in each time...

I told her I would ask here on the forum.? thank you for any input you can give me to pass on to her.

Janice B
New Statler Siblings Group


Re: Downloading photos

 

That isn't just a Chrome feature. I am sure it is the same in Firefox and Seamonkey, and probably IE as well.


Re: Downloading photos

 

Jim, I am using Windows 10 and Edge as my browser. When I download the photo
using Edge, it does not offer me the zoom function you are talking about. I
did find I could copy and paste it from there to my desktop and the Windows
Photo Viewer opens up and allows me to zoom in. So I have a work-around.
I did try the method someone mentioned earlier about using Chrome and
zooming in by using CTRL and the mouse wheel, but that doesn't work on my
computer for some reason.

Annick Phillips


Re: Downloading photos

 

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I posted a request to this effect in the beta group. As is all too frequently the case around here, it got shot down quicker than a wounded duck...but at least I tried.

Bruce

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I appreciate your trying, Bruce. A fellow group member let me know that if I copy and paste the photo onto my desktop, my Windows Photo Viewer will open for me to be able to zoom in on the details of the photo and also allow me to save it as a jpeg if I want. I can work with that.

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Annick Phillips

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Re: Downloading photos

 

On 12 Apr 2018 at 20:06, Annick Phillips wrote:

I did find that if I used Google Chrome for my browser to access the group, when
I download a photo it allows me to save it as a jpeg when I right click on it,
but still I'd rather have the options we had at Yahoo. I don't always want to
save a photo to my hard drive just to be able to zoom in on details like I can
when it opens up in Windows Photo Viewer. Thanks, Bruce, for requesting that
change at the beta group.
You can do that in your browser. Just view it in the browser page, then use the
browser's zoom function to show as much fine detail as you like.

Jim Fisher

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Re: Message editor acting funky

RickGlaz
 

That is an Admin or Moderator view,
it looks different there viewing as a normal member account.
Still "broken", but different...

Rick

On April 13, 2018 at 11:39 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


Mark mentioned that there are glitches with the HTML editor and he was working
on it, so maybe that's what you're seeing.
I hope so.

My ISP's email server just came back online, so here's that screenshot I was talking about. Top half shows what happens as it first loads and the bottom what it looks like after the edit box renders.

Bruce

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Sent from my WEBmail.


Re: Groups.io and GDPR compliance

 

On 03/24/2018 03:39 AM, toki wrote:

If the list is "owned" by the charity, or is an official organ of the
charity, then full compliance is required. If the list is owned by an
individual, then some aspects might be dropped. This is what the court
cases will be about.
Following up on this, despite the GDPR being an EU directive, specifics
are up to the individual member states. Those differences can be
startling:
* Estonia, for example, requires compliance within five working days,
with a single fifteen day extension permitted, if, and only if, the
original request lacked clarity;
* Ireland, OTOH, gives thirty days to comply, with no extensions;

Additional things that gave me pause were:
* All requested data must be provided to the requester, in a commonly
used format. So far so good. However, for list owners, that means that
if a request is made of all emails sent by the individual, or quote the
individual, the list-owner has to be provide them to the requester. The
only path to compliance with that, that I can see, is to set up an email
account that receives all messages sent to the list, and automatically
archives them in an email forensic analysis program;
* Consent to subscribe must be explicit, and must be retained by the
list owner. This implies that list-owners and moderators should not
auto-subscribe individuals, but will, on request, have to unsubscribe
individuals;
* Membership lists contain personal data, and as such, probably should
not be publicly available;

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Something to consider, is appointing one moderator, whose sole function
is to ensure conformance with GDPR (Europe), CASL (Canada. I have no
idea what this law is about, but I've heard it often enough in
discussions about GDPR, to assume that it has some relevance), and other
privacy legislation in other countries, or regions of the world. IOW, a
mailing list _Data Protection Officer_.

jonathon


Re: Cross posting to other lists

 

On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 05:22:03PM -0700, Jeremy Harrison via Groups.Io wrote:

A 'reply' in e-mail will default to whatever the group 'reply-to' (I think
there may be some logic to remove specific 'sender' if they will get it as part
of group) setting is (this can be changed), and 'reply-all' will also include
the CC list. When using groups.io reply facility the only options are (I think)
'group' and 'sender'.
Ideal would be to not insert a reply-to header in the message at all.
It isn't even something a mailing list should be setting, it should be
passed through so that the user can decide where they want replies to
go. At least for our list.

David


Re: Cross posting to other lists

 

On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 08:17:07PM -0700, Shal Farley wrote:

If I'm reading the thread correctly, should our setting be updated to
"Reply to Group"?
If you're talking about David's group, yes. That would best enable what
he wants (replies to his Groups.io and also another list).

To make it even better a suggestion could be posted on beta to add an
"All Recipients" setting to the Reply-To option. Then when a member
happens to cross-post to another list, that other list would be included
in the Reply-To field generated by Groups.io.
I previously checked the headers, and the group was not getting a
Reply-To header. I think this is the best solution, since it just
leaves things for the email client to use (it allows people to reply
to just the author, or to everyone, etc). Trying to keep the "CC"
people as CC etc is not going to work if the reply-to header is set.

If you're talking about some other group, then it would depend on the
needs of the group. Some groups aren't really for conversations but more
of a bulletin-board. Examples include Freecycle, Freegle, and other
sharing-oriented groups; in this type of group it is more appropriate
that replies to offers be sent only to the original poster.
This is definitely conversation-based. Many people on the group will
be used to threaded reply views, and that kind of thing.

Thanks,
David


FW: [GMF] Questions before transferring a large group from Y!G to G.IO #yahoo #transfer

 

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If you haven¡¯t seen the discussion yet there is one IO issue you need to know to know about and accept before transferring. Any IO posting that gets put into a member spam folder whether with or without their knowledge WILL result in them being un-subscribed. They then have to find and correct the IO spam status to regain uninterrupted membership. It is a pain in the buns for the owner/moderator.

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My group is only 800 but 50 of them initially were booted and even now after a month in IO 39 are still in this loop. We are parents of children declining with a terminal disorder so this disconnect for 39 parents is killing me. I may well not have transferred if I knew of this before transferring. YahooGroups just ignores it because they are big enough no other internet identities will block them; not so IO, they say they need to have a good spam record or be blocked by too many entities.

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Search the GMF archive; there are dozens of postings pro and con on this issue.

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Good luck in your decision.

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Paul



[Mod note: this is overstated. See the wiki page about it]]


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Questions before transferring a large group from Y!G to G.IO #yahoo #transfer

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I'm involved with a large group, about to make the transfer from Yahoo to Groups.io, and we have questions.? I am naive at this.? I have much to learn about groups.io, and never enough time.

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By "large", I mean these:

?- Number of group Members

?- Number of Files and file directories

?- Number of Messages

I don't mean total file size.

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Re: Message editor acting funky

 

Mark mentioned that there are glitches with the HTML editor and he was working
on it, so maybe that's what you're seeing.
I hope so.

My ISP's email server just came back online, so here's that screenshot I was talking about. Top half shows what happens as it first loads and the bottom what it looks like after the edit box renders.

Bruce

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Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam #poll

 

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 07:25 am, <mike@...> wrote:
...simply send a message to the moderators saying something like?"Please re-verify that X is still a member of this group."
I think that misses a couple of points. Firstly if the "recipient" concerned wasn't a member of the Group then they wouldn't have been sent the email in the first place; secondly your suggestion includes nothing that would prompt the recipient to actually do something in an attempt to either prevent incoming traffic from being marked as spam or at the very least reduce the incidence.

Your proposal could go on ad infinitum with no action being taken to find a "cure". In the meantime those MSPs operating FBLs might spot that the spam just kept rolling in, and that isn't desirable. Whatever course of action is adopted there has to be something that prompts action on the part of the recipient.

Chris


Re: Message editor acting funky

 

I happened to think that my posting preference might be involved.? Turns out that using HTML preference has the "Quote Whole Post" glitch, but markdown and plain text show the icon.? Mark mentioned that there are glitches with the HTML editor and he was working on it, so maybe that's what you're seeing.

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Re: Questions before transferring a large group from Y!G to G.IO #yahoo #transfer

 

On 04/13/2018 08:46 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

If it takes 4 days, will those 4 days of new messages become lost? We
average a couple dozen messages daily.
Yes, message posted to the Y!Group after the transfer agent collects its
messages will be orphaned on the Y!Group.
Didn't Mark write something about being able to do a second sweep, to
pick up orphaned messages. The limitation being that it has to be
specifically requested.

jonathon