Re: How to create a new database record
Bruce, to avoid some ambiguity may be it should be suggested to Mark to change from
"Subscribers can view, moderators can create tables"
to
"Subscribers can view and add to, moderators can create tables"
Arno
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Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam
#poll
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:23 am, Dr. Denver Fox wrote:
As far as no email setting, I don't want to allow this setting. ?However, had to change to no email so I could send a special message. ?Then I changed back to group no email. ?It would be nice if mods/owners could send special messages and still retain no email as a default setting for the group.
Confused! ?If you allow no mail, you cannot special message all members.? Frances
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I'm trying to add RSS integration.. but the feed address doesn't seem to work..? Not much of an RSS expert.. just playing...? These feed addresses do work in an RSS reader however?? confused.. feed://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ccumc.org/resource/rss/news.rss
http://www.ccumc.org/resource/rss/news.rss
http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ccumc.org/resource/rss/news.rss
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Re: How to create a new database record
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:24 am, Milt Baker wrote:
You did it in a heartbeat.
I have to disagree on that one...but we got there eventually. :-) B
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Re: How to create a new database record
That did it, Bruce.? The more time I spent with it, the more it seemed that a switch somewhere was set the wrong way, but I couldn't find the switch--and wasn't at all sure it was accessible to me.? You did it in a heartbeat.? YOU ARE THE MAN!??
Many thanks for your guidance along the fantastic Groups.io path!
Milt
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Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam
#poll
As far as "training" my participants about the inner workings of spam and their particular email client- no way. ?My group is very busy parents of adults with disabilities - they simply do not have the time nor inclination nor skills to do such "training." ?Some are in their 80's. ?It has got to be an easier solution.
As far as no email setting, I don't want to allow this setting. ?However, had to change to no email so I could send a special message. ?Then I changed back to group no email. ?It would be nice if mods/owners could send special messages and still retain no email as a default setting for the group.
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>>?I find all the colors in HTML email to be so discordant.
Me too. For what it's worth...I have "Normalize HTML emails" checked and the other two unchecked. Although you can set up a default delivery option, subscribers can override the default in their personal subscription settings and should be encouraged to try them until they find something they like.
Regards,
Bruce
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Text formatting in e-mails
This happens to us when someone writes in Word then pastes the message into an email. Huge long documents.
It seems to be something coded in Word that other things interpret differently.
It's in the underground somewhere.
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Sharon, I didn?t know that. Pasted from word directly into the message field and then edit it with "justify" seems to slim it up again. But what an awkward procedure!
Victoria
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Re: How Safe (spam proof) is groups.io ???
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 08:15 pm, Jim Betz wrote:
I was really hoping that there
was some kind of Required introduction capability that occurs
during the request for membership process - in order to weed out
the spammers as early as possible.? In this particular case that
would be easy ... because it would be difficult for any spammer
to fake his interest in the topic this group is about.
Surely the use of " Pending Subscription" messages deals with this. A Group I moderate has this set up and it seems to work. (FWIW we used to do this "manually" which was a real chore - Pending Subscription has dispensed with the work.) Quite a few applications arrive with no follow - up to the Pending Subscription request. We either wait until they time out and vanish of their own accord or delete them ourselves. Curiously, when we get applications that are followed up by a response, that response usually turns up within 24 or 48 hours; any longer and the likelihood of a response turning up drops to almost zero. Sometimes we repeat the Pending Subscription message but still get no response. Were they spammers? I have no idea. Our group (just over 2900) has most members fully moderated; only a trusted few beome free to post without moderation delays. Any attempt at spamming would be spotted pretty quickly, followed equally quickly by the ruthless application of the ban hammer. Chris
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On Apr 2, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Then, as you noted, we have the scenarios where the original message may or may not contain a lot of colors, links, etc...or just plain text. To test all these combinations would take 7 x 5 x 2 = 70 different trials, minimum. [snip] A further complication -- as if we needed one -- is that many email clients can be configured to strip out HTML, even if the original message contains it. Exactly the problem. Thank you for the calculations. With so many options, they all become moot because if used they cancel each other out. Inside a company system where things can be controlled ¡ª legislated by the system ¡ª then everyone is the same but the company has a range of options to choose from. In a free from environment it¡¯s rather like chasing one¡¯s tail to figure out why Alicia¡¯s links are suddenly becoming long text strings of numbers. In the past I¡¯ve just insisted on plain text in emails, but it¡¯s getting hard. Everyone wants HTML, except the 25% who don¡¯t. I find all the colors in HTML email to be so discordant. I guess the only option is to check none of the boxes and see what happens. Sharon ------ Sharon Villines, Washington, DC "As long as you have two or fewer, your ducks are always in a row." The Covert Comic
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Re: Text formatting in e-mails
On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:
The originally formatted line spacings inside the text double and triple so the text becomes unnaturally long. When received as e-mail, the texts stay formatted as originally created. I haven?t found out why so far. This happens to us when someone writes in Word then pastes the message into an email. Huge long documents. It seems to be something coded in Word that other things interpret differently. It's in the underground somewhere. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines, Washington DC "We're only the light bulbs, and our job is just to remain screwed in.¡± Bishop Desmond Tutu
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Re: How to create a new database record
Okay, the problem then is with the table settings, not the group settings.
Open the table that's giving you problems, then click "Edit Table" at the top of the page. At that point you can change permissions for who can view, edit, add rows, etc.
Bruce
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Re: How to create a new database record
One just-discovered clue that tells me something is "broken" with my current database:? Our group has two databases, one an old archive, and the other our current database.? I find that rank-and-file members can "add another row" to the old archive database but not to the current database.? I think I'll ask Support for help!
Milt
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Text formatting in e-mails
Hello, everyone, ? we have boiler plate anamnesis forms which moderators send into the group by mail. So that they can be answered by group members who want a medical assessment. These pre-formatted documents comletely change their looks as soon as they appear in the message field of the group. The originally formatted line spacings inside the text double and triple so the text becomes unnaturally long. When received as e-mail, the texts stay formatted as originally created. I haven?t found out why so far. Regards Victoria
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Re: How to create a new database record
Thanks, Bruce.? What you said makes sense, but I tried both settings and neither produces the green box.? Here's what I see when I log in using a member's? (not moderator's) login.
I'm attaching the setting and the yadda-yadda-yadda beneath the database.
Perhaps I have another setting somewhere in the wrong position???
You're only a couple of weeks ahead of me on the timeline, but light years ahead of me in understanding how to make Groups.io features work.? It's a great new platform but my learning curve is still close to straight up!
Again, my thanks for your help!
Milt
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Re: #subgroups change to usual email address
#subgroups
Barb In a sense you're right in thinking it logical to return to the original name. But... The problem is the reverse of that with which Pete opened this topic: he feared that the [email protected] address would stop working, when the sub-group was created, and the old, 'main' group address became [email protected] - as Shal reassured him, the old address keeps working, becoming an alias to the new. But when the sub-group(s) go, the [email protected] goes, and stops working - if well established, this will be a real problem.? Jeremy ? PS I have raised this on beta, see
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Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam
#poll
Thanks... I missed the original poll too, but have just voted.
Win
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam #poll
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Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam
#poll
I agree with Barb on this.? I usually err on the side of the lightest moderation possible, and this seems like overkill to me.? As an example, I belong to several recipe groups.? Sometimes a member cross-posts a recipe to more than one of those groups.? For no reason I can see other than multiple recipients, Gmail will send one of them to spam and the others to the inbox.? I try to stay on top of that and mark them not spam as soon as I see them, but I know not all my members read their messages every day or even every week.? Sometimes a message comes through the groups that really is spam, or maybe a malware link sent by accident or hacking from a member who is allowed to post without moderation.? Gmail appropriately puts them in the spam box and I delete them without opening.? The members of these groups have different levels of sophistication with email groups and programs, from very technically challenged to IT experts.? I would not be at all happy to lose members because of something that to me hurts no one.? Yahoo Groups and email as a form of communication have survived the spam folder for many years.? Groups.io is getting better all the time and this group is doing a great deal to help make it that way, so please feel free to explain to me what about this issue I don't understand.
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Elizabeth
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Re: Categories for groups -- idea suggestion
#suggestion
Hi Bruce and Robert,
Yes, categories similar to what Yahoo uses for groups but just a single level instead of the multi level heirachy they attempted to set up. ?There is more detail in the thread in the ¡°beta¡± group with some additional discussion.?
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Regards, Al / NN4ZZ
al (at) NN4ZZ (dot) com
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Re: How Safe (spam proof) is groups.io ???
Hi,
? Thanks for your answers.? It appears that all of the spam protection is
already being done for this particular group.? It is not possible to have
a group - which literally has thousands of members - to be fully
moderated.
? Hopefully we will catch any potential spammers during the 'first 2
messages are moderated' phase.? I was really hoping that there
was some kind of Required introduction capability that occurs
during the request for membership process - in order to weed out
the spammers as early as possible.? In this particular case that
would be easy ... because it would be difficult for any spammer
to fake his interest in the topic this group is about.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - thanks again ... Jim B.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.
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Frances
Bruce
Milt Baker
Victoria
Al Ludwick / NN4ZZ
Jim Betz