Hi Michael, if you're not the owner, or moderator. You will have to request the moderator Flip the switch on these two members. Especially if the post are not appropriate for the group.

I don't have any of my groups set for "no mail". That means that the owner cannot even "special message" them with the rest of the group.

Shal's might be a better strategy.

Frances

Hi Stan,

Good to hear that things have smoothed out and that your members are seeing some advantages to the upheaval!

Rather than “no mail”, I prefer to set GMF and Beta to “first message only”. Then I follow topics that I want to / need to.

See this from Help on Muting and Following and Following Topics and Hashtags.

Cheers,

Frances

That's great, Stan. I know you were initially apprehensive about flipping the switch and am pleased to hear how things have worked out.

Bruce

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 08:28 am, RickGlaz wrote:

"You can't make this stuff up"

Indeed...they're making Y!Mail sound reputable. Switch to GMail and save yourself the trouble.

Bruce

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:11 am, Michael Buckley wrote:

Is there a way to turn of just these two - I know I can turn off ALL emails, but this rather defeats the object of the group!

The option of muting individual subscribers has been something on my "want list" going all the way back to the listserv days.

Bruce

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Sure. You can put them on moderation or ‘override - can’t post.’ But they’ll be pissed. ?

At present if a Member or their Mail Service Provider marks a message as “spam” then it is quite possible for that member to be summarily deleted from the Group that sent out the message. This is dependant on whether (or not) Groups.io operates a Feedback Loop with the MSP in question.

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A different option might be to change the member’s mail delivery to “no mail” so that their access to messages can only be achieved via the web page of the Group in question. This action would be accompanied by a warning email sent out by Groups.io in much the same way as one is now advising the person of their membership being deleted. If nothing else it would mean that members would not find themselves completely cut adrift from a Group. Thedre would be nothing to prevent the member in question reselecting their email delivery option.

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It is not known at this time how easily this change could be implemented by Groups.io

Depending on the outcome of this poll a #Suggestion will be placed on the beta group.

One of the groups I am on is full if innain chatter from, largely, two people.

Is there a way to turn of just these two - I know I can turn off ALL emails, but this rather defeats the object of the group!

Thanks

mike

All my questions were answered in this discussion group and so I set my email preference to no email. However, I just wanted to follow up on how groups.io is working for my discussion group.

When I made the switch from Yahoo to Groups.io, I received a number of personal messages expressing their gratitude for getting away from Yahoo and one said Groups.io was a good choice. By chance, on the day the transfer was completed, one member had not known yet it had been (I just learned it myself and had not yet sent a message to everyone informing them of it) and said he was unsubscribing from Yahoo because of the difficulty of creating and losing messages. Recently, one member said it is so much better than Yahoo. There are a few things I have noticed after the transfer. One is that there are more discussion messages than there used to be. I think this is because the turn around time is much better than in Yahoo and so members can actually carry on a conversation instead of waiting hours or a day for a message to go through. The other thing I have noticed is that members who had not participated for a long time are now participating.
Stan

The problem with time change has on,y shown up on Sundays. I was able to change the time on a Tuesday event. Not sure why that was the case...

In response to Bruce & Paul...

I can see your point about "Special Notices". However, it has been our (as in our Group) experience that it has been sending out a special notice that has caused the problem! It is suspected that the members concerned may have been set to "special notices only", so normal traffic didn't get sent to them. Then along comes a special message and the MSP immediately says "spam!" and deletes them.

In your specific cases what would happen if your "special notice" sent out as a rescue mission was itself marked as spam? Would the MSP finish up getting annoyed because 2 spams had been found and the feedback loop had seemed to have done nothing?

With setting to "no email" then you can still email the individual concerned by sending them a direct one. Also can you send an email to one specific member as a Special Notice? I don't know but I suspect perhaps not; you would finish up sending it to everyone on Special Notices.

At the time I am typing this I am awaiting a poll I set up being passed by GMF Management; if I can do an edit to it after it is released then I can add another question, but I honestly think relying on special notices may cause more problems than it solves. Don't forget that if a member is set to "no mail" while they are still a member you as an owner or moderator can set it back to something else yourself; if they have been dismembered you can't. There are other ways of contacting them than by using a special notice.

And I use the term "dismember" because it is so obviously the wrong word. :)

Regards,

Chris

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I got a better tech rep at 1+1 that understood the problem better than their others.

Thanks to suggestions from Shal, 1+1 (general support) and I did a deep dive
together and found that the "Quick Reply" button at 1+1 WEBmail (the one next to "reply all")
is awful when working or dealing with Groups. TheGroup.IO site for sure. (In full.)

1+1 WEB-mail "Quick Reply" runs off and does all sorts of bizarre things.
A BCC triggers all sorts of stuff even harder to believe. (Not getting into that now.)

I was shown a more hidden way to start a "reply" that actually brings up
a "center of screen dialog box" with questions and additional selections.
The odd thing is? --- THAT dialog box defaults to "reply all" and asks if
you really meant to do that.
(Really<???>) Default is incorrect (IMHO) two times in a row?

Thanks again to Shal, we were searching for the the non-existent setting of
How to reply -- default. (No setting...)

"You can't make this stuff up"

I have not tested ANY of that yet...

Rick

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 06:44 am, Chris Jones wrote:

Although automatic dismemberment is not an everyday occurrence I will keep a watch out for any.

I like that..."automatic dismemberment." Reminds me of spontaneous human combustion. :-)

Much earlier in this thread I (and I think another) floated the idea of any membership cancellations because of spam reporting being replaced by? a forced change to "no emails / web only" access. One member here raised the point that his group did not allow "no emails", which might well be a valid objection. However, having thought about it a bit more, surely an enforced use of "web only" simply has to be better than being unceremoniously removed from membership completely.

I'm the one who mentioned this. As long as in groups such as mine the member was placed on Special Notices instead of No Email, I would be okay with this means of handling "removed for spam." Please give a lot of thought, though, as to whether this is the best way to deal with that rare person who might be actually spamming.

Bruce

Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Shal and Bruce.? Just what I needed!? You guys are terrific.

Milt

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:24 am, Paul Ohio USA wrote:

I don't remember if any of my group members who use btinternet have "Spammed Out."

And neither do I, unfortunately. Being a UK based group there are quite a few of them (us actually; I use btinternet as well) Although automatic dismemberment is not an everyday occurrence I will keep a watch out for any. My BT mail did migrate to another supplier so with an uncertain proportion of subscribers on each of the providers getting anything statistically meaningful is not going to be easy.

Much earlier in this thread I (and I think another) floated the idea of any membership cancellations because of spam reporting being replaced by? a forced change to "no emails / web only" access. One member here raised the point that his group did not allow "no emails", which might well be a valid objection. However, having thought about it a bit more, surely an enforced use of "web only" simply has to be better than being unceremoniously removed from membership completely.

Would there be a concensus in favour of this? If one emerges then I will place it as a suggestion on beta.

Regards,

Chris